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Jonathan Martin's case going to hell in a handbasket. No one in the locker room, or players from the past year, no longer with the team.....no one supports him, they don't believe him, and they have no idea where this is coming from. People had no idea WTF was going on the day he had his cafeteria hissy fit. Players were allowed to address the situation as of yesterday, Tannehill and Hartline had very strong press conferences with telling insight.
I told you this gonna get good. It isn't close to being over.Comment
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Hillenmeyer 'hated coming into work' because of Kreutz
Tribune report3:02 p.m. CST, November 6, 2013
Bullying in the NFL has come under scrutiny this week after the suspension of Miami Dolphins guard Richie Incognito for his abusive treatment of teammate Jonathan Martin, and former Chicago Bears linebacker Hunter Hillenmeyer said the incident reminds him of his feelings toward the team's former center and locker-room leader Olin Kreutz.
“The first year I filled in for (Brian) Urlacher when he was on injured reserve for a large part of the year (2004), I hated coming into work because of Olin," Hillenmeyer told Matt Spiegel and Laurence Holmes of WSCR-AM 670 on Wednesday. "Because he was a jerk. He was riding me because I was the third-year guy, or second-year guy, trying to fill in for a superstar. So I can relate in a sense that, you’re going to have people in your workplace that you don’t necessarily like."
Asked how he dealt with it and whether he had a support system within the Bears, Hillenmeyer said, "Olin led in a certain way. I would go to the grave acknowledging that he thought that everything he was always doing was in the best interest of the team. I don’t want that to come across like I’m admonishing him or saying that he was a bad leader. Because he was a great leader, but at the same time, when you have a room full of alpha males who were all the best player on their high school teams and one of the best players on their college team, to get everyone to buy in and fall into line, you need people that take leadership roles in an aggressive way like that."
Dolphins coaches reportedly encouraged Incognito to pressure Martin into conforming with the code of the locker room, and Hillenmeyer said team management often will look the other way.
"If you’re (former Bears general manager) Jerry Angelo or you’re (former Bears coach) Lovie Smith, as much as you might not approve of some of the methods, you like the results," he said of Kreutz's behavior. "People were going to come to OTAs and they weren’t going to have loose lips with the media, they weren’t going to do a lot of things to damage the locker room – not because they didn’t want to, but because they were scared of Olin.
"You need guys like that in the locker room, and coaches tend to just let it happen unless there's something egregious going on that's right under their nose."
But hey, nahste and TBU seem to know more about NFL locker rooms than actual NFL players. We should probably take all of Olin Kreutz's awards away from him because he was a bully.
It should really tell you something when other players are speaking out in defense of Incognito in this situation.Comment
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well after reading that and if it has truth to it...I am glad I didnt invest much time on this dumb story.Comment
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This story reminds me of this:
"She was terrible"Comment
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You keep skipping the fact that a threatening personal phone call and public twitter blasts are not locker room bullying. That's my problem with what incognito did because that's the only thing we've been presented and it happened far away from the locker room.
Who takes locker room bullying to twitter and phone calls?Comment
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There's still a lot of questions surrounding this story. The article gives good insight on some things but there is still a lot of lies being told.
I think it's best to just wait for Martins side of the story at this point rather than speculating more.
Pretty tired of this story....a lot of bs from a lot of people.Last edited by Tailback U; 11-07-2013, 12:08 PM.Comment
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With each day that passes, Martin is looking worse & worse here.
Both players are gone, and nobody is saying anything bad about Ingocnito.
What i've learned the past few months with Riley Cooper & Incognito, is that nobody cares about the word "nigger" in the NFL. NFL locker rooms are apparently far less sensitive places than the rest of our culture in terms of racial epitaphs. You can say a *word* and not be automatically labeled a racist. Boys will be boys, I suppose.Comment
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I think its best to call him a bitch and move on.
We spend the entire month of October looking at players wearing pink , we kick off November with a story about "bullies" and some shitcock named "Foles" throws for 7 touchdowns.
Fuck this Oprah league bullshit and lets watch some Hockey.Best reason to have a license.
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