is Jonathan Martin a dumb ass or did someone do something to him worth talking about?

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  • Aso
    The Serious House
    • Nov 2008
    • 11137

    #91
    Wasn't George Zimmerman supposedly trained in MMA? He got his ass beat by a skinny teenager. Just sayin'

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    • Tailback U
      No substitute 4 strength.
      • Nov 2008
      • 10282

      #92
      Originally posted by Aso
      Wasn't George Zimmerman supposedly trained in MMA? He got his ass beat by a skinny teenager. Just sayin'
      Just because you bully 14 year old girls into sleeping with you doesn't mean bullying is ok.

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      • ram29jackson
        Noob
        • Nov 2008
        • 0

        #93
        ultimately, this is a dumb debate about nothing. Incognito is a meathead in a profession meatheads excel in.

        the fact is he will eventually play again. his so called threats are hollow. He wasn't going to actually kill Martin or anything close to it and cant be convicted of such. Pro athletes are by and large a bunch of dumb asses. Incognito now knows what the line is and will get another contract soon enough...next year or what ever ?

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        • kmanharris
          Seven
          • Oct 2008
          • 6427

          #94
          Originally posted by ram29jackson
          ultimately, this is a dumb debate about nothing. Incognito is a meathead in a profession meatheads excel in.

          the fact is he will eventually play again. his so called threats are hollow. He wasn't going to actually kill Martin or anything close to it and cant be convicted of such. Pro athletes are by and large a bunch of dumb asses. Incognito now knows what the line is and will get another contract soon enough...next year or what ever ?
          Carry on. Racial slurs, death threats, physical threats to family members. Nothing to see here.

          Thank god rams is here!

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          • Tailback U
            No substitute 4 strength.
            • Nov 2008
            • 10282

            #95
            Originally posted by ram29jackson
            ultimately, this is a dumb debate about nothing. Incognito is a meathead in a profession meatheads excel in.

            the fact is he will eventually play again. his so called threats are hollow. He wasn't going to actually kill Martin or anything close to it and cant be convicted of such. Pro athletes are by and large a bunch of dumb asses. Incognito now knows what the line is and will get another contract soon enough...next year or what ever ?
            I forgot you were a lawyer, too.

            Please explain coercion and extortion to me when you get a chance.

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            • ram29jackson
              Noob
              • Nov 2008
              • 0

              #96
              Originally posted by kmanharris
              Carry on. Racial slurs, death threats, physical threats to family members. Nothing to see here.

              Thank god rams is here!
              no one can prove he was going to do any of it and the fact is he wasn't going to in the first place. This is small potatoes crap in the legal system. People type/text etc the same stupid shit every day,all day on the internet and not one damn thing is going to happen to them

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              • kmanharris
                Seven
                • Oct 2008
                • 6427

                #97
                Originally posted by ram29jackson
                no one can prove he was going to do any of it and the fact is he wasn't going to in the first place. This is small potatoes crap in the legal system. People type/text etc the same stupid shit every day,all day on the internet and not one damn thing is going to happen to them
                i can't.

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                • ram29jackson
                  Noob
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 0

                  #98
                  Originally posted by Tailback U
                  I forgot you were a lawyer, too.

                  Please explain coercion and extortion to me when you get a chance.
                  I was talking about the insults. as far as everything else he will just pay some fine. He wont be serving jail time or any such crap.

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                  • Pitty
                    Death, Taxes, Jeff Capel
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 7541

                    #99
                    So, when we moving this to the MMA forum, since Icognito's forays into that realm means he is now the 6'3", 320 lb version of Bruce Lee for spending a few months trying out some Martial Arts?

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                    • Warner2BruceTD
                      2011 Poster Of The Year
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 26142

                      guys, these are the times you ignore r29j, like when a family matter gets serious and you tell your sassy preteen niece who likes make unintentional funny comments to leave the room
                      Last edited by Warner2BruceTD; 11-04-2013, 04:07 PM.

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                      • ram29jackson
                        Noob
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 0

                        Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                        guys, these are the times you ignore r29j, like when a family matter gets serious and you tell your sassy preteen niece who likes make unintentional funny comments to leave the room
                        LOL excuse me but i'm right. Nothing major is going to go down when all is said and done. Incognito is a dumb ass but he hasn't for all intents committed some major crime. He wont be serving any jail time for this so I don't see how this is so important or really bad on some badness scale.

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                        • kmanharris
                          Seven
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 6427

                          Originally posted by ram29jackson
                          LOL excuse me but i'm right. Nothing major is going to go down when all is said and done. Incognito is a dumb ass but he hasn't for all intents committed some major crime. He wont be serving any jail time for this so I don't see how this is so important or really bad on some badness scale.
                          Losing your job = not major.

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                          • ram29jackson
                            Noob
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 0

                            Originally posted by kmanharris
                            Losing your job = not major.
                            its not the same as being convicted of a major crime and that's all i'm referring to. And odds are he'll get another football job.
                            They kept giving PacMan chances so I don't see how Incognito cant as long as he has skills they want.

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                            • Warner2BruceTD
                              2011 Poster Of The Year
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 26142

                              Originally posted by ram29jackson
                              LOL excuse me but i'm right. Nothing major is going to go down when all is said and done. Incognito is a dumb ass but he hasn't for all intents committed some major crime. He wont be serving any jail time for this so I don't see how this is so important or really bad on some badness scale.
                              May I see this "badness scale"?

                              Which is worse, kid murder or elderly rape?

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                              • Tailback U
                                No substitute 4 strength.
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 10282

                                Originally posted by Pitty
                                The thing about assholes is that they usually aren't as stupid as they seem. You want to bring Incognito up on charges for theft/fraud/assault/whatever that's fine by me, but if Martin couldn't even attempt to work his way out of these situations, the guy wasn't long for this league in the first place. Likewise, this isn't Middle School, someone's doing this shit to you, you have 3 options: a.) Head to the coach b.) head to a legal entity c.) punch the asshole in the face. It's a classic case of Incognito pushing it as far as he can before Martin pushed back, the thing is the guy never even tried to resist, at least it seems from all reports.
                                Multiple Miami Dolphins sources said Sunday that offensive lineman Jonathan Martin approached coach Joe Philbin to discuss his issues during organized team activities in the spring.


                                Jonathan Martin talked to Joe Philbin about issues in spring
                                By Albert Breer

                                The Jonathan Martin situation just recently came to a head, but it's hardly new.

                                Multiple Miami Dolphins sources said Sunday that the offensive lineman approached coach Joe Philbin to discuss his issues during organized team activities in the spring. One team source said Martin's desire to even continue playing football had been questioned, but the team believed the situation was quelled after it was addressed at that time. Another source who has spoken to Martin said the second-year pro addressed his issues with the work environment in Miami at the meeting with Philbin, though a team source contended the Dolphins weren't aware of them until last week.

                                Internally, Dolphins officials wondered if the Bryant McKinnie trade two weeks ago -- done largely because of Martin's struggles at left tackle and the team's overall problems up front -- was responsible for Martin's issue bubbling up again last week. But according to a team source and a source close to the player, it was communicated to the Dolphins that Martin wasn't angry or dispirited over the deal.


                                The lunch-room prank that apparently sent Martin over the edge involved the offensive linemen, who would stand up and leave the table after the last one arrived with his food, leaving that person by himself. Multiple team sources characterized the prank as being fairly ordinary among the O-linemen. In fact, one source said Martin was part of the same prank when some players played it on guard Nate Garner one week earlier. Another source said Martin's O-line mates weren't aware of his previous problems or that he'd met with Philbin, which led those players to believe nothing was wrong.

                                Also at issue, according to a source close to Martin, was the $15,000 that teammates expected him to pay for a Las Vegas trip that he didn't attend.

                                The NFL Players Association released a statement Saturday saying it isn't conducting an investigation into how Dolphins teammates treated Martin, although executive director DeMaurice Smith told NFL Media's Jeff Darlington on Sunday that the situation is on the union's radar.

                                "Our job is to make sure that, as facts come in, we take a look at them," Smith said at FedEx Field before the Washington Redskins' game against the San Diego Chargers. "We take our job seriously about protecting and ensuring that the league and the clubs provide a safe workplace for our players. So, right now, our job is to make sure, as information comes in, we take a hard look at it and stay on top of the situation."

                                UPDATE: Incognito told Darlington on Sunday that he has been suspended indefinitely by the team. Philbin delivered the news to Incognito, and the Dolphins later confirmed the suspension for conduct detrimental to the team.

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