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  • Kuzzy Powers
    Beautiful Like Moses
    • Oct 2008
    • 12542

    Henderson is actually 38.. all the more reason that hes past his prime.

    Palhares has never fought anyone the size of Henderson or with that kind of KO power. Henderson should've finished the guy.

    Whos to say its more to do with Anderson Silva? He couldnt do that to a much lesser fighter in Leites or in Patrick Cote. Henderson looked flat out terrible that fight.

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    • KINGOFOOTBALL
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 10343

      Originally posted by RosettaStoned
      His hand speed is the only thing that makes him an average striker. From the waist up he's really good. From the waist down he's awful. That = average to me. He's only beaten Forrest Griffin, and a very old and slow Chuck Liddell. That is not p4p top five material to me. Not even before the loss does he scratch my top ten.
      You dont beat Forrest and Chuck with "average" striking. He's got good power in his legs as well. He doesnt have the heavy hands Silva or Rampage do but hes alot quicker than both of them and his footwork for as much as that article wants to knock him is what has kept him unpredictable and ridiculously hard to get a bead on. Unless Im Machida or Rampage Im avoiding an exchange with Evans.
      Top 5 is pushing it. I think Machida could barely squeeze in the top 5 right now. Evans 5-10 before this fight was not far fetched. You would have to bypass some really good lighter weight guys to put him in there. Bottom line is overrated or not being undefeated and champ at 205 has more clout than any other weight class. The competition at 205 is just insane.
      Best reason to have a license.

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      • Kuzzy Powers
        Beautiful Like Moses
        • Oct 2008
        • 12542

        Originally posted by RosettaStoned
        You had one guy in the same spot as me, and 3 different fighters. You suck at reading, or being intelligent.
        You suck at analyzing. The chances of having an exact list are slim.. having 7 of the same fighters is similar enough. You just hate when people dont agree with you. Perhaps you should fetch your new babies bottle.

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        • Bmore
          The True Free-Man
          • Oct 2008
          • 6256

          .. is it just me or does anyone else think a Anderson Silva/Lyoto Machida match would be good.


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          • Steel Mamba
            Nasty
            • Nov 2008
            • 2549

            1. Machida
            2. Anderson Silva
            3. GSP
            4. Fedor
            5. BJ Penn
            6. Torres
            7. Rampage
            8. Mir
            9. Barnett
            10. Shogun - can't forget about the Pride days, keep in mind the long layoff + injuries when first entering the UFC. He's done too much in Pride and is still far too talented to wipe this guy off of the top 10 list.

            This is based off of resume + overall skill and ability. When you take those two things into consideration how is Machida not #1 with wins over Bonnar, Franklin, Tiger White, Soko, Tito, Thiago, and now Evans. Also, take into consideration that he has dominated everyone that he has faced in the UFC thus far and has yet to be rocked by anyone. He takes the least amount of damage out of anyone that there is in the sport. He's also the only guy where you really cannot even sit down and say "that guy can beat him", there's not a fighter in the sport that matches up favorably to Machida and the same cannot be said for anyone else. For that, he's #1.

            Silva at #2 because he's undefeated in the UFC and also one of the most versatile and talented guys that there is. When it comes to savy and skill the only other fighter that even compares would be Machida. His resume is also impressive and he has cleaned out his division.

            I have GSP at #3 for now, but I can quickly see him climbing to #2 and bumping Silva down one slot. He has had a couple setbacks, but right now he's poised to clean out his division as well and is just as skilled, in his own right, as Anderson Silva is.

            Fedor, what more can I say about Fedor, anyone that posted at MM knows how I feel about him. I have a ton of respect for the guy, his resume is impressive, but I just don't see him as one of the most talented fighters that there is. He's a freak of nature, but he's not as well rounded or technical, at least standing, as the guys mentioned above.

            The rest of the list is debatable, but that's how I have em right now.

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            • Steel Mamba
              Nasty
              • Nov 2008
              • 2549

              Originally posted by Bmore
              .. is it just me or does anyone else think a Anderson Silva/Lyoto Machida match would be good.
              They would never fight each other and the match itself could go either way in terms of excitement. It could either be one of the most technical matches ever, or a complete snore/standoff between the two with neither engaging.

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              • Liquidrob
                Izzy is a bum
                • Feb 2009
                • 11785

                Originally posted by RosettaStoned
                Yeah, Serra beat a p4p top 3 fighter, while Rashad beat Forrest Griffin. You're right, no comparison.
                lol, please RS, serra hit the lotto, he didnt do 1 thing in the ramatch, come on
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                • Liquidrob
                  Izzy is a bum
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 11785

                  Originally posted by Bmore
                  Personally I don't think Affliction can challenged Fedor as much as the UFC can.
                  yeah, because Big Tim, AA and Barnett are nothing

                  lol, those 3 are better than anything the UFC can offer
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                  • Liquidrob
                    Izzy is a bum
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 11785

                    Fedor is the p4p best fighter in the sport

                    GSP is number 2, he is the best fighter in the UFC, lol @ bringing up the Serra KO, he raped him after that, when you have small gloves shit like that happens

                    Him and Fedor have revenged all there loses, only guy who can step up now is Machida and he hasnt beaten the level of comp Fedor and GSP has

                    If he beats Rampage and another top LHW he could probably jump GSP
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                    • The Messenger
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 5063

                      1. Fedor
                      2. GSP
                      3. Anderson Silva
                      4. Machida
                      5. BJ Penn

                      I haven't been watching MMA enough to list the 6-10 guys really good, although I would have to put Torres, Rampage, and Diaz somewhere in there.


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                      • RosettaStoned
                        Throbbing Tebowner
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 9951

                        Originally posted by Bob Kuzzy
                        Perhaps you should fetch your new babies bottle.
                        That's exactly what I'm doing, motherfucker.
                        So, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction.

                        -Alan Aragon

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                        • Liquidrob
                          Izzy is a bum
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 11785

                          In for the record, BJ at LW easily is top 5 p4p, please dont him moving up in weight effect that, he has been almost untouchable at 155 in his career, only a 5 round loss to Pulver in his 3 fight ever

                          His only problem is not sticking at 155 for a lot of fights in a row
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                          • Liquidrob
                            Izzy is a bum
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 11785

                            Originally posted by Steel Mamba
                            Fedor, what more can I say about Fedor, anyone that posted at MM knows how I feel about him. I have a ton of respect for the guy, his resume is impressive, but I just don't see him as one of the most talented fighters that there is. He's a freak of nature, but he's not as well rounded or technical, at least standing, as the guys mentioned above.
                            Funny how you dont say he is one of the most talented, he is a Combat Sambo champ, he has outstruck K1 strikers, subbed wrestlers and pounded out Nog when Nog had the best HW guard in the history of MMA

                            He has been rocked by 1 punch, that was Fujita than choked him out, got slammed as bad as you can against Randleman and than subbed him minutes later, hasnt lost a round in like 8 years and took out the 2 best HWs the UFC had for years in under 4 minutes

                            The guy is skilled, his cardio is great for a HW also, his GnP technique is great, full body torque and explosion
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                            • The Messenger
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 5063

                              Originally posted by Liquidrob
                              Funny how you dont say he is one of the most talented, he is a Combat Sambo champ, he has outstruck K1 strikers, subbed wrestlers and pounded out Nog when Nog had the best HW guard in the history of MMA

                              He has been rocked by 1 punch, that was Fujita than choked him out, got slammed as bad as you can against Randleman and than subbed him minutes later, hasnt lost a round in like 8 years and took out the 2 best HWs the UFC had for years in under 4 minutes

                              The guy is skilled, his cardio is great for a HW also, his GnP technique is great, full body torque and explosion
                              Play Rosetta in UFC. Feels like your fucking fighting Fedor. It's almost impossible to win.


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                              • CrimsonGhost56
                                True Blue
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 5981

                                best ever..



                                pfffff

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