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  • Anthony
    In Brendan we trust.
    • Jun 2009
    • 5201

    Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
    Shogun is finished.

    He beat two washed up, punch drunk old men--and somehow that equals title shot.

    I can't even see him giving Machida even the slightest challenge.
    Only because everyone in that weight-class declined a shot at the title. Shogun balls, the rest no balls. Except for Wandy - Wandy would fight his mother if they put her infront of him.

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    • JeremyHight
      I wish I was Scrubs
      • Feb 2009
      • 4063

      Originally posted by Liquidrob
      Forrest gets the win against And1, if you want to see what it will look like, go watch Randy vs Vitor 1 for better understanding, Forrest will push And1 around, smash him into the cage, take him down, grind him out, make it ugly, Silva wont be able to work his clinch on a much taller fighter

      I see a point where And1 is under a 230 lbs Forrest looking up at thr clock and waiting for the round to end with Forest dropping elbows on his face
      Originally posted by JeremyHight
      Silva naturally walks around as a LHW, so the weight isn't that big of a factor, IMO. I really think that the large technique advantage of Silva will overcome any weight difference. I expect to see Forrest try to stand up for a bit and prove his standup game, but will lose because of it.
      Just had to do it. Don't worry, I love you, Rob.

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      • Anthony
        In Brendan we trust.
        • Jun 2009
        • 5201

        Originally posted by Bob Kuzzy
        GSP makes top 10 fighters look like amateurs on the regular too. GSP could likely make top 10 MW's his bitch, too. We'll have to wait and see till they actually fight each other.. ill try not to make the size excuse, cause I trust GSP to do it right if hes going to do it.
        The difference is Anderson Silva beats opposing fighters at what they're own strengths are, GSP gets hit and he automatically takes the fight to the ground. Which is what he's GREAT at and we can't blame him for it.

        Fedor
        Silva
        GSP

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        • RosettaStoned
          Throbbing Tebowner
          • Oct 2008
          • 9949

          Originally posted by Bob Kuzzy
          How has Anderson accomplished more?
          11 fight win streak. Has GSP done that? No.

          Beat a top 10 former champion in the weight class above him. Has GSP done that? No.

          Hasn't been beaten in 5 years. Can GSP claim that? No.

          If you think Silva's resume is better than GSP's you need to lay off the rock.
          The only thing GSP has done that Anderson hasn't is avenge his losses.
          So, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction.

          -Alan Aragon

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          • Kuzzy Powers
            Beautiful Like Moses
            • Oct 2008
            • 12541

            Originally posted by Anthony
            The difference is Anderson Silva beats opposing fighters at what they're own strengths are, GSP gets hit and he automatically takes the fight to the ground. Which is what he's GREAT at and we can't blame him for it.

            Fedor
            Silva
            GSP
            Umm what? Did you miss when GSP completely out-wrestled guys like Matt Hughes and Josh Koschek? Both renowned as two of the best wrestlers in the bizz..

            GSP has no problem beating you at your own game. Infact, he enjoys it.

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            • Kuzzy Powers
              Beautiful Like Moses
              • Oct 2008
              • 12541

              Originally posted by RosettaStoned
              11 fight win streak. Has GSP done that? No.

              Beat a top 10 former champion in the weight class above him. Has GSP done that? No.

              Hasn't been beaten in 5 years. Can GSP claim that? No.



              The only thing GSP has done that Anderson hasn't is avenge his losses.
              Yeah, that and beat flat out better talent than Anderson.

              While NOT getting freak submitted by Ryo Chonan. He got freak KO'd instead, but thats a lot more likely to happen than to get jumping heel hooked.

              Its arguable either way.. but you've been writing off GSP unjustifiably for a while now. I love how you werent trying to make this argument after Anderson's fight against Leites and Cote. You are the king of the selective argument.

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              • RosettaStoned
                Throbbing Tebowner
                • Oct 2008
                • 9949

                Originally posted by Bob Kuzzy
                Umm what? Did you miss when GSP completely out-wrestled guys like Matt Hughes and Josh Koschek? Both renowned as two of the best wrestlers in the bizz..

                GSP has no problem beating you at your own game. Infact, he enjoys it.
                Except, wrestling is his game. He's just better at it than those two.
                So, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction.

                -Alan Aragon

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                • RosettaStoned
                  Throbbing Tebowner
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 9949

                  Originally posted by Bob Kuzzy
                  Yeah, that and beat flat out better talent than Anderson.

                  While NOT getting freak submitted by Ryo Chonan. He got freak KO'd instead, but thats a lot more likely to happen than to get jumping heel hooked.

                  Its arguable either way.. but you've been writing off GSP unjustifiably for a while now. I love how you werent trying to make this argument after Anderson's fight against Leites and Cote. You are the king of the selective argument.
                  Um, yes I was actually. You are the king of not paying attention.
                  So, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction.

                  -Alan Aragon

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                  • RosettaStoned
                    Throbbing Tebowner
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 9949

                    Originally posted by Bob Kuzzy
                    Yeah, that and beat flat out better talent than Anderson.
                    How do you figure? Anderson beat the top guys in both big orgs. Not only beat, but dominated. He's also beat a top 10 guy a weight class above him. Not only beat, but embarrassed.
                    So, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction.

                    -Alan Aragon

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                    • Kuzzy Powers
                      Beautiful Like Moses
                      • Oct 2008
                      • 12541

                      Originally posted by RosettaStoned
                      How do you figure? Anderson beat the top guys in both big orgs. Not only beat, but dominated. He's also beat a top 10 guy a weight class above him. Not only beat, but embarrassed.
                      Line up the resume's, its pretty obvious.

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                      • Kuzzy Powers
                        Beautiful Like Moses
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 12541

                        Originally posted by RosettaStoned
                        Except, wrestling is his game. He's just better at it than those two.
                        Noone was expecting GSP to completely dominate either of those guys from a wrestling stand point. Many had dubbed Koscheck the best pure wrestler in the whole UFC and GSP made him look like a child.

                        Stop underrating Georges. Its sad.

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                        • RosettaStoned
                          Throbbing Tebowner
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 9949

                          Originally posted by Bob Kuzzy
                          Line up the resume's, its pretty obvious.
                          That's pretty much all you keep saying. Yet continue to back it up with nothing.
                          So, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction.

                          -Alan Aragon

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                          • Kuzzy Powers
                            Beautiful Like Moses
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 12541

                            Originally posted by RosettaStoned
                            Um, yes I was actually. You are the king of not paying attention.
                            Find me quotes in time relation and ill believe it.

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                            • Kuzzy Powers
                              Beautiful Like Moses
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 12541

                              Originally posted by RosettaStoned
                              That's pretty much all you keep saying. Yet continue to back it up with nothing.
                              I told you to do something and you didnt do it. Not my fault.

                              I dont got time to write up every victory of both fighters career right now, im having enough trouble stopping what im doing to reply back to your posts.

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                              • Anthony
                                In Brendan we trust.
                                • Jun 2009
                                • 5201

                                Originally posted by Bob Kuzzy
                                Umm what? Did you miss when GSP completely out-wrestled guys like Matt Hughes and Josh Koschek? Both renowned as two of the best wrestlers in the bizz..

                                GSP has no problem beating you at your own game. Infact, he enjoys it.
                                Originally posted by RosettaStoned
                                Except, wrestling is his game. He's just better at it than those two.
                                Yea, what he said. I don't dispute that GSP is a great fighter and that he man-handles his competition, But I still rank him lower than Anderson when it comes to P4P. GSP has beaten his last opponents the exact same way; and there's no problem with that. But like Anderson said, I don't concentrate on their weakness, I concentrate on their strengths.

                                He stood & exchanged with guys who's style is to brawl, Ex: Irvin, Griffin, Cote, Hendo, Leben & the list can go on and on. I'm not taking anything away from GSP and he's smart for fighting his way & not his opponents, but it just shows how dominating Silva can be against any fighter in whichever fighting style & that you cannot dispute.
                                Last edited by Anthony; 08-09-2009, 04:09 PM.

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