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  • CrimsonGhost56
    True Blue
    • Feb 2009
    • 5981

    #76
    Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
    They are all too busy complaining about minor details, nobody wants to just bleed anymore around here. What a bunch of women. I'm going to love watching this tournament, best thing to happen in MMA since SUPER HULK.
    agreed. should be an excellent tournament. cant wait to be there when it starts next month.

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    • calgaryballer
      Tiote!
      • Mar 2009
      • 4620

      #77
      Got this shirt for x-mas. CG, you can wear your Whitehead shirt and I'll rock this one from Calgary

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      • calgaryballer
        Tiote!
        • Mar 2009
        • 4620

        #78
        More info:

        DAVE MELTZER: "You know the whole thing's that happened from start-to-finish makes you question everything because it's like every time, you know it's been a year-plus, I mean there has been hearing after hearing where something didn't happen, right, where once he doesn't show up, you know last time he doesn't bring his lawyer and now he's just not going to be there at all when... You know, at this point, if he doesn't come I think it's pretty clear they're not going to give him a license."

        BRYAN ALVAREZ: "No."

        DAVE MELTZER: "And if California doesn't give him a license, yeah, sure, you can go commission shop, but that makes Coker and Strikeforce look bad for putting a guy in a tournament that, um, no-showed a hearing, you know, to get reinstated after a steroid test violation and also there's going to be states like, you know, Nevada and New Jersey, you know powerful states where he's not going to be able to fight. So, I almost you know, honest to God if he doesn't go, if I was the promoter, no question, if I was the promoter in this situation, if I'm Coker, I'm telling him, dude, you change your mind and you get to that commission and you ask, I'm sorry I applied late, get me on the docket. Because if you're not on that docket and they don't approve you, I got to kick you out of the tournament. You got to. Because you can't go in there and go, well, you know, what if Josh wins? We can't have the final in San Jose. We can't have the finals in Jersey, we can't have the finals in Vegas."

        Uncharacteristically, Cage Side Seats' Derek Suboticki expressed similar, more scathing comments on the topic of the steroid-riddled Barnett on Monday. Barnett's inclusion in the tournament and apparent unwillingness to confront the CSAC in regards to applying for a license force Coker to seek out for friendly commissions who will supply Barnett a license. As Meltzer noted later in the segment, this sort of transparent commission-shopping is reminiscent of the tactics used by Bob Arum in finding a state in which to promote Manny Pacquiao's fight with Antonio Margarito. Pacquiao and Margarito, however, sold a million pay-per-views. It would be very optimistic to think that Barnett adds even one percent of that in viewership to a Showtime event, let alone a full-blown pay-per-view. Removing Barnett at this point seems highly unlikely and would create an even more massive disparity between the two sides of the brackets, but both Suboticki and Meltzer express salient points on the matter.
        Prior to being asked about it by ESPN.com on Thursday, Lembo was also unaware of Strikeforce's intention to use a fourth judge, independent of the three assigned by whichever regulatory body oversees that event, to determine an advancing fighter in case of a draw.

        "Strikeforce could utilize a fourth judge for their own tournament advancement purposes, but the fourth judge would not be an NJSACB judge, and such would not effect the official recorded result," Lembo said.

        While a fighter would continue onto the next round of the tournament, his official record would reflect the result as a draw, Strikeforce rules director Cory Schafer confirmed. The fourth judge would score the fight as a whole, similar to Pride Fighting Championships' old scoring method.
        The Barnett thing kind of bugs me. It's a flagrant flaunting of the rules, and in a sport where the commissions don't have a national oversight, it seems pretty out there to say 'well NJ, NV, CA won't licence me, so I guess I just go fight in Missouri or something'. I want to see Barnett fight, but I'd like him to do so with the same rules everyone else follows.

        And the fourth judge thing was interesting. Likely won't matter, but we could have a situation where, example, Fedor and Silva draw, the SF named fourth judge advances Fedor, and he goes on to win. Both Silva and Fedor have draw's on their record afterwards, meaning Fedor wins 2 fights for the whole thing. That judge also uses different criteria. What if he scores the whole fight as a draw?

        And we thought robbing Pettis of a shot was big news. Imagine any of these fighters not getting a chance because an 'independent' judge decided who goes through even though it was officially a draw. I know I'll be trolling with conspiracy theories afterwards...

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        • Warner2BruceTD
          2011 Poster Of The Year
          • Mar 2009
          • 26142

          #79
          Bryan Alvarez, bringing nothing to the conversation as usual.

          I don't mind the fourth judge thing. It's better than having draws and seeing someone get a bye. But the fact the fourth judge will be using Japanese criteria, and not the 10 point must, is just a little bit sketchy.

          As for Barnett, unless they plan on running the semis and finals on reservations in front of 18 drunken indians, Coker either needs to grow a set and force him to face the CSAC, or replace him in the bracket right now with Cormier or Gonzaga or Duffee or Lashley or Sylvia or somebody.

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          • EmpireWF
            Giants in the Super Bowl
            • Mar 2009
            • 24082

            #80
            Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
            Bryan Alvarez, bringing nothing to the conversation as usual.
            lol

            When he does the shows with Meltzer, it's the Meltzer show. :captain:


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            • Liquidrob
              Izzy is a bum
              • Feb 2009
              • 11785

              #81
              [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNHv-wwAjzU&feature=player_embedded[/ame]
              Liquidrob's Top 10 Fighters Rankings


              The 10 Fighters Who Changed The Game

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              • Liquidrob
                Izzy is a bum
                • Feb 2009
                • 11785

                #82
                New site for the Grand Prix. good stuff on it

                Liquidrob's Top 10 Fighters Rankings


                The 10 Fighters Who Changed The Game

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                • EmpireWF
                  Giants in the Super Bowl
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 24082

                  #83
                  fedor wallpaper

                   


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                  • KINGOFOOTBALL
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 10343

                    #84
                    Did the Super Hulk...ever actually feature two hulks ?
                    Wasnt it always HULK! vs some skilled 205er ?
                    Best reason to have a license.

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                    • bdub
                      Woah Cam!
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 516

                      #85
                      I think I might be the only person rooting for this guy to return to glory, god I miss when he was one of the most feared heavyweights for that very very short time

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                      • EmpireWF
                        Giants in the Super Bowl
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 24082

                        #86
                        I'd love for Arlovski to return to his 'ol self but his confidence is no more. There's no way he can stand and take big shots and survive.

                        Mental or physical, he's done as a top fighter.

                        He has a great look though so hopefully he can find a career in Hollywood or something similar.


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                        • bdub
                          Woah Cam!
                          • Jul 2009
                          • 516

                          #87
                          Originally posted by EmpireWF
                          He has a great look though so hopefully he can find a career in Hollywood or something similar.
                          He's already on his way:

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                          • EmpireWF
                            Giants in the Super Bowl
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 24082

                            #88
                            [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1e82En4lX8[/ame]


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                            • Warner2BruceTD
                              2011 Poster Of The Year
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 26142

                              #89
                              Originally posted by KINGOFOOTBALL
                              Did the Super Hulk...ever actually feature two hulks ?
                              Wasnt it always HULK! vs some skilled 205er ?


                              [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqsLJKeyR0w[/ame]

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                              • Liquidrob
                                Izzy is a bum
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 11785

                                #90
                                Liquidrob's Top 10 Fighters Rankings


                                The 10 Fighters Who Changed The Game

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