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  • Liquidrob
    Izzy is a bum
    • Feb 2009
    • 11785

    Frank Mir says if Fedor Emelianenko really wants to prove himself, he'll come fight in the UFC.


    LAS VEGAS – There is no topic that divides mixed martial arts fans more than Fedor Emelianenko, the former PRIDE heavyweight champion and the man tied with Georges St. Pierre for the top spot in the current Yahoo! Sports pound-for-pound rankings.

    Emelianenko’s very vocal supporters treat him with a reverence rarely seen in sports. He’s become an almost mythological figure to these fans. But there are those who believe that Emelianenko can’t fairly be judged until he lands in the Ultimate Fighting Championship and competes in the octagon.

    Frank Mir, the UFC’s interim heavyweight champion, said during a question-and-answer session with fans at a UFC Fight Club session on Friday at the MGM Grand Garden Arena that he’d love to fight Emelianenko, but said he’d only do it if it were in the UFC. Mir said that while there are other good fighters in competing promotions, “the best, the deepest pool of fighters” is in the UFC.
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    “If he’s called the best fighter in the world, why wouldn’t he want to come to the UFC and prove it?” Mir asked. “I know I would.”

    Mike Goldberg, the UFC’s play-by-play announcer who co-hosted the Q&A with Mir, concurred. And Goldberg made an analogy about football championships in an attempt to point out why Emelianenko needs to compete in the UFC.

    “If you win an Arena Football League title, it’s a ring and you’re a great athlete and you deserve it,” Goldberg said. “If you were in the XFL and you won in the XFL with those uniforms, you are still a champion. If you won in the USFL – Doug Flutie and the boys, Herschel Walker – you were a USFL champion. But at the end of the day, all those players wish they had a Super Bowl ring and that they won in the NFL. And that equates to what Frank’s talking about.”

    Mir used that analogy to continue, pointing out that as great a quarterback as Dan Marino was during his career with the Miami Dolphins, his legacy is tarnished somewhat by not having a Super Bowl ring.

    Mir also suggested that a fighter with good technical boxing skills could beat Emelianenko.

    “Fedor has fast hands and is a very aggressive puncher,” said Mir, who meets Brock Lesnar for the undisputed UFC heavyweight title at UFC 100 on July 11 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas. “But a lot of times when he swings, he goes slightly off-balance. If you sit there in front of him, [it’s trouble]. Tim Sylvia could answer that question. But if you use proper boxing, like Andrei Arlovski was doing up to the last five seconds of their fight, you see what happens. I think a very technical fighter will bother Fedor a little bit.

    “[A guy] using straight punches, [a guy] with good head movement. That’s what you want. That’s a code word for skill. He’s a very powerful, quick athlete, which some people don’t realize when looking at his body. But if you fight him with skill, I think you can do very well. I thought Andrei was winning that fight until – I don’t know what that was that Andrei did.”
    lol @ goldberg and mir, they must have forgot that the Pride HWs were the NFL and the UFC HWs were the XFL

    also, another lol that fedor has to fight in the UFC, why dont Mir and Brock ask Dana to go beat Fedor up in a co-promotion if he is that overrated, sounds like a plan
    Last edited by Liquidrob; 05-27-2009, 09:53 AM.
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    • Liquidrob
      Izzy is a bum
      • Feb 2009
      • 11785

      Originally posted by Sauceman
      I don't think their remarks are going to convince Fedor to jump ship. Why do they even bother?
      because they're mad they are not recongnized as the best HWs in the world except by rednecks and kids who just bought the new UFC video game

      Fedor makes bank, controls his career and is seen as the best fighter in the planet by most MMA fans and that bothers Dana and the UFC B league HW champs, maybe the can create another HW title and have a 3 way dance!

      Props to AA and Tim for testing the waters though
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      • Liquidrob
        Izzy is a bum
        • Feb 2009
        • 11785

        "I cannot make the weight, otherwise I would have continued to fight at 185 and not given up my DREAM middleweight title," Mousasi responded. "I cannot make 185 anymore and that is final."

        Belfort's refusal to fight Mousasi at any other weight besides 185 pounds has created some controversy considering his previous campaign to fight Fedor Emelianenko at heavyweight. Mousasi expressed some confusion regarding Belfort's recent change in philosophy.

        "I am very surprised that Belfort was willing to challenge Fedor at heavyweight yet it unwilling to fight me at a catchweight," he said. Mousasi then went on to issue a compromise challenge.

        "If (Belfort) does not want to fight at middleweight, why not fight me at a catchweight?"
        Mousasi and Belfort argueing over the weight, figured this would happen, I see Mousasi's point, but I dont think Belfort should fight higher than 185 for a while, he has been deadly at that weight recently
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        • Kuzzy Powers
          Beautiful Like Moses
          • Oct 2008
          • 12542

          Vitor is just looking out for his best interests.. it would be foolish for him to jump weight when he finally looks comfortable again at MW.

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          • EmpireWF
            Giants in the Super Bowl
            • Mar 2009
            • 24082

            I don't understand this point. Why should Dana White concede anything to Fedor's management people when he doesn't need Fedor. He's doing great business without him. Why should he co-promote anything when he just doesn't need to? If Fedor does not want to sign a contract to fight in the UFC, screw him (...in Dana's mind).

            Of course Fedor should be considered the best heavyweight in the world. But that shouldn't stop the UFC from promoting their top heavyweight as the best. More people know Mir/Brock as the best instead of Fedor anyway.

            If you're Fedor, you really don't need the UFC anyway. That is...as long as you don't care that most Americans don't know you. I'm sure he's a wealthy dude and can take a fight in Japan whenever he wants and make sweet coin. Why risk your $$$ by signing an exclusive UFC deal and risk failing to adjust to the octagon?

            Just a case where neither side needs to do business with the other.


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            • CrimsonGhost56
              True Blue
              • Feb 2009
              • 5981

              belfort wants to have a nice little win streak going when his contract with affliction is up so he can paid, most likely by the UFC who is starving for MW fighters. mousasi is the clear cut favorite in that fight.

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              • Liquidrob
                Izzy is a bum
                • Feb 2009
                • 11785

                Originally posted by EmpireWF
                I don't understand this point. Why should Dana White concede anything to Fedor's management people when he doesn't need Fedor. He's doing great business without him. Why should he co-promote anything when he just doesn't need to? If Fedor does not want to sign a contract to fight in the UFC, screw him (...in Dana's mind).

                Of course Fedor should be considered the best heavyweight in the world. But that shouldn't stop the UFC from promoting their top heavyweight as the best. More people know Mir/Brock as the best instead of Fedor anyway.

                If you're Fedor, you really don't need the UFC anyway. That is...as long as you don't care that most Americans don't know you. I'm sure he's a wealthy dude and can take a fight in Japan whenever he wants and make sweet coin. Why risk your $$$ by signing an exclusive UFC deal and risk failing to adjust to the octagon?

                Just a case where neither side needs to do business with the other.
                They both dont need each other, thats been proven, but the UFC cant say there HW champ (both of them) is the best and fool the real MMA fans, like I said, rednecks and kids who bought the new UFC game think Brock and Mir are the best

                Brock seems to like comp, Mir seems to like comp, they probably would both like to fight Fedor, well maybe not Mir, lol

                Thats why I said in the locker room thread, not having Fedor, AA, etc...is like the NFL not having Manning, Big Ben, etc...he didnt get the top of the top in the most promotable class in fight sports

                We will probably never see Fedor in the UFC and you know what, he shouldnt fight in the UFC, he makes just as much money, if someone like Brock wants to be the best, he needs to fight Fedor, Fedor doesnt need to go fight the B league HWs

                If the mainstream media finally jumps on the Fedor bandwagon it would kind of force Dana's hand, but I dont see it happening

                Imagine Sports Illustarted or ESPN the magazine outting Fedor on the cover? That would blow Danas mind
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                • Liquidrob
                  Izzy is a bum
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 11785

                  double post
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                  • Liquidrob
                    Izzy is a bum
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 11785

                    Jose 'Machida' Canseco, he is very elusive, a couple more sidekicks and HMC would have been dropped







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                    • CrimsonGhost56
                      True Blue
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 5981

                      ^ would of like to have seen how the fight would of ended if canseco's knee didnt go out. most likely the same or worse but would of been cool to see it go longer.

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                      • Bmore
                        The True Free-Man
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 6256

                        Canseco is pretty strong if he can push Cho like that in the 4th Gif.


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                        • Liquidrob
                          Izzy is a bum
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 11785

                          respect, before there was Fedor there was Igor

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                          • Bigpapa42
                            Junior Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 3185

                            Much respect for Igor. I have a soft spot in my heart for chubby Ukrainians.

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                            • CrimsonGhost56
                              True Blue
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 5981

                              Originally posted by Liquidrob
                              respect, before there was Fedor there was Igor
                              amen to that. one of the greatest ever. a true pioneer of the sport. always knew you were in for a good fight when igor fought. much respect

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                              • Kuzzy Powers
                                Beautiful Like Moses
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 12542

                                Igor is the fucking man.

                                I used to KO dudes on the regular with him in Pride FC video game. He was a beast.

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