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  • Liquidrob
    Izzy is a bum
    • Feb 2009
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    Everyone weighed in for the Ultimate Chaos show

    Bobby Lashley (255.4) vs. Bob Sapp (322.2)
    Gilbert Yvel (237) vs. Pedro Rizzo (243.6)
    Din Thomas (146.6) vs. Javier Vazquez (144.8)
    Chris Horodecki (155) vs. William Sriyapai (154.8)
    Brett Cooper (169.2) vs. Waachiim Spiritwolf (168.4)
    Tom Atencio (160.4) vs. Randy Hedderick (159)
    John Harris (154.2) vs. Brandon Harder (154.2)
    James Orso (173.2) vs. Danny Abbadi (174.6)

    Good to see javier vazquez back in action
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    • calgaryballer
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      • Mar 2009
      • 4620

      Only $30 to see that shit event

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      • Liquidrob
        Izzy is a bum
        • Feb 2009
        • 11785

        Originally posted by Bob Kuzzy
        Bullshit I was. I have never said that professional wrestlers could beat MMAers. Never, ever, ever have I said that. SMH @ you for even trying to pull that kind of shit out of your ass.

        LOL @ trying to flip me defending wrestlers as athletes in the past and turning it into me saying they'd beat MMAers. You're a fucking clown Rob.

        PS: I guess I cant rewrite my past posts but you can rewrite them for me eh?
        you were saying that this guy or that guy would do well in MMA, yada, yada

        its ok dude, just dont try and change the past
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        • Liquidrob
          Izzy is a bum
          • Feb 2009
          • 11785

          Originally posted by calgaryballer
          Only $30 to see that shit event
          Yeah, that should be a $15 card at best, would be great on HDNet for free though!
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          • Kuzzy Powers
            Beautiful Like Moses
            • Oct 2008
            • 12542

            Originally posted by Liquidrob
            you were saying that this guy or that guy would do well in MMA, yada, yada

            its ok dude, just dont try and change the past
            I may have said in the past that some wrestlers could venture into MMA, but I highly doubt ive ever had that conversation with you. Furthermore, how does that translate into me saying wrestlers would beat MMAers? Bobby Lashley and Brock Lesnar havent successfully ventured into MMA?

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            • Liquidrob
              Izzy is a bum
              • Feb 2009
              • 11785

              Originally posted by Bob Kuzzy
              I may have said in the past that some wrestlers could venture into MMA, but I highly doubt ive ever had that conversation with you. Furthermore, how does that translate into me saying wrestlers would beat MMAers? Bobby Lashley and Brock Lesnar havent successfully ventured into MMA?
              I was in the thread, you were talking with all of us, you were defending pro wrestling like a cornered kitten and you know what you have said in the past, you were throwing out names of guys who have no legit experience

              lol @ using brock and lashley, they were NCAA champs, thats the reason they are good in MMA, not there pro wrestling experience

              the only guys that do well were 'real' wrestlers is the past, also when a guy like Barnett reps 'pro wrestling' he is a catch wrestler, big difference from WWE BS, Barnett is a sub grappler with legit training

              even Sak, he was a legit freestyle wrestler growing up, trained with legit catch wrestlers, etc...and had an awesome single leg

              about the only thing pro wreslting (WWE stuff) will do for you is maybe make you tougher, but it more than likely hurts you in the long run because of the long lasting injuries, guys like brock would have been much better off skipping the WWE and going straight to training, but the money wasnt the same back than
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              • Steel Mamba
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                • Nov 2008
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                lol I remember that wrestlers vs MMA athletes debate. I still say u gotta do something real to be considered an athlete.

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                • Liquidrob
                  Izzy is a bum
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 11785

                  Originally posted by Steel Mamba
                  lol I remember that wrestlers vs MMA athletes debate. I still say u gotta do something real to be considered an athlete.
                  Yeah, I still stand by its not a sport and they are not athletes, if they are considered athletes than so are stunt man, nothing wrong with doing it, good money, but dont try and pass it off for what its not
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                  • Kuzzy Powers
                    Beautiful Like Moses
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 12542

                    Originally posted by Liquidrob
                    I was in the thread, you were talking with all of us, you were defending pro wrestling like a cornered kitten and you know what you have said in the past, you were throwing out names of guys who have no legit experience

                    lol @ using brock and lashley, they were NCAA champs, thats the reason they are good in MMA, not there pro wrestling experience

                    the only guys that do well were 'real' wrestlers is the past, also when a guy like Barnett reps 'pro wrestling' he is a catch wrestler, big difference from WWE BS, Barnett is a sub grappler with legit training

                    even Sak, he was a legit freestyle wrestler growing up, trained with legit catch wrestlers, etc...and had an awesome single leg

                    about the only thing pro wreslting (WWE stuff) will do for you is maybe make you tougher, but it more than likely hurts you in the long run because of the long lasting injuries, guys like brock would have been much better off skipping the WWE and going straight to training, but the money wasnt the same back than
                    Regardless if I did defend wrestling (as being athletes), ive never ever said that wrestlers could beat MMAers, you're simply talking out of your ass when you say that.

                    There are amature wrestlers that have ventured into WWE.. Kurt Angle, altho pretty old now, could prob do a half decent job in the cage. Sean O'Haire tried his hat at it. Theres a few other guys that im sure could atleast do a decent job. But never, have I ever, said the wrestlers could beat MMAers. Those words never came out of my mouth, or my finger tips for that matter.

                    Lol @ you trying to turn this into a debate with me now. Theres not a chance im going to try to defend wrestling against MMA, im a wrestling fan originally but ive fully converted into an MMA junky, wrestling is a sideshow at this point. But they still perform athletics.. they just dont compete as athletes. Thats not arguable.

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                    • calgaryballer
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                      • Mar 2009
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                      I think Rob's point is that guys like Angle were wrestlers before becoming Pro Wrestlers. It appears that he is under the impression that you think guys like Jericho or someone with no wrestling background could also make the transition due to their 'athletic' ability

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                      • Liquidrob
                        Izzy is a bum
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 11785

                        Originally posted by calgaryballer
                        I think Rob's point is that guys like Angle were wrestlers before becoming Pro Wrestlers. It appears that he is under the impression that you think guys like Jericho or someone with no wrestling background could also make the transition due to their 'athletic' ability
                        exactly, cant remember the names, but kuzzy was throwing out name of guys like a cena, etc...that are just 'pro wrestlers'

                        big difference with guys like Angle and Brock who were legit wrestlers in the past, of course those guys can do well, 'real' wrestling is 1 of the best bases you can have in MMA and there pro wrestling experience has nothing to do with it the success they have or might have

                        I think the Pro Wrestling goof balls (no offense) always get that mixed up and want to justify pro wreslting by thinking they can do well in MMA, if you like it, thats cool, but dont get it twisted with MMA skills
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                        • CrimsonGhost56
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                          • Feb 2009
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                          Originally posted by Liquidrob
                          exactly, cant remember the names, but kuzzy was throwing out name of guys like a cena, etc...that are just 'pro wrestlers'

                          big difference with guys like Angle and Brock who were legit wrestlers in the past, of course those guys can do well, 'real' wrestling is 1 of the best bases you can have in MMA and there pro wrestling experience has nothing to do with it the success they have or might have

                          I think the Pro Wrestling goof balls (no offense) always get that mixed up and want to justify pro wreslting by thinking they can do well in MMA, if you like it, thats cool, but dont get it twisted with MMA skills
                          da hell you mean? undertaker got sick subs

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                          • Liquidrob
                            Izzy is a bum
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 11785

                            1 more quick point about the UFC being like the WWE

                            remember the Dana White/Tito fued? lol @ that, a boxing match and all that owner vs fighter stuff, thats right out of the Vince playbook, good job Dana
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                            • clovett
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                              • Mar 2009
                              • 794

                              lashley beat sapp via tapout due to gnp

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                              • Liquidrob
                                Izzy is a bum
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 11785

                                play by play of ultimate chaos

                                Sherdog.com reports live from Biloxi, Miss., with play-by-play of &#8220;Ultimate Chaos,&#8221; which is headlined by Bobby Lashley vs. Bob Sapp


                                Poor Pedro

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