The General Wrestling Thread

[SuperKevin]

I thought it was Bennett who killed BJ Whitmer

[JayDizzle]

I tune into the Smackdown taping to see the Bella/AJ match (* 1/4 stars which could have been 1/2 if not for the botched finish and Tamina fucking up the stairs spot) and now I see that Cody/Goldust are back...

And they have the tag belts.

...seems like I have some backlog to hit up.

[JayDizzle]

I have a challenge to any VSN'r or VOW'r...

Sit through the ENTIRE Goldberg: The Ultimate Collection DVD in one sitting. 30 Matches. 8 Hours.

CAN YOU DO IT!?!?

If someone does it, I'll buy'em a movie ticket to a movie of their choice. Must provide proof you watched the whole damn thing...perhaps, broadcasting it on justin.tv or something.

I'll put up the new Triple H fellatio DVD against it.

HOURS of Paul Levesque telling you how much he loved getting down on his knees to get the job he has today.

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In other news, my unemployed broseidon Giant, Big Show, punching Maddox's teeth into the cheap seats was pretty awesome.

[JayDizzle]

If the lower card belts actually meant shit, I'd say give one to Big E. Langston.

Re-institute the TV Title and hook the young man up so I can watch him violently beat other people into squishy pulps.

[JayDizzle]

NOW... NOW I have a bigger reason to watch Smackdown.

Punk's Punk but seeing him come back to help fight off Ryback and Axel made me cheer and I haven't done that for some time since watching a little bit of Wrestling here and there.

Dude's a monster and having him thump on heels means more opportunities down the line.

...I just hope he doesn't end up like Bobby Lashley or Ezekiel Jackson.

[IamMedellin]

I actually saw most of Trip's documentry, not 1 mention of katie vick...

SMH hunter......SMH

[JayDizzle]

I actually saw most of Trip's documentry, not 1 mention of katie vick...

SMH hunter......SMH

Plenty of Terra Rizing and Guyliner though...

[Warner2BruceTD]

I thought it was Bennett who killed BJ Whitmer

It was. My bad.

[Warner2BruceTD]

TNA will be taping multiple television shows over a few days in Orlando in late November as a cost cutting move and has now canceled tapings scheduled in Baltimore on 11/21, Chattanooga on 12/5 and Arlington, TX on 12/19.

It is expected that most of the tapings going forward will be done in Orlando.

They will be taping six weeks of television in late November. There are also currently no shows, either TV tapings or house shows, on the schedule between 12/29 and 1/29 when the U.K. tour starts. This would seem to indicate single location tapings and very limited house shows going forward.

Single location mass tapings, no house shows, and almost all revenue derived from money being paid by Spike.

TNA is basically just like one of those MTV promotions (Lucha Libre USA, WSX, etc) that exist solely due to whether the network chooses to air them, except TNA also runs PPV's that nobody buys.

I mean, the reality is that nobody can exist without TV these days, including WWE, but you get the idea. It's hard to call TNA a regular full time promotion at this point. ROH will run more shows next year and be the #2 touring group in the U.S.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Plenty of seats still available for Toledo. Let everybody know at the water cooler.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Holy crap watch the Wyatt Family vs Miz & Kofi match on SD.

It shocked the fuck out of me because it didn't follow the typical WWE tag match pattern at all. Kofi never managed to make his hot tag, and it was very creative how they got around that. Best Wyatt match to date, since imo they have been largely shit on the main roster.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Even with post production angle switching on a taped show, the Bellas are total shit and make AJ Lee look like Kobashi.

[EmpireWF]

Single location mass tapings, no house shows, and almost all revenue derived from money being paid by Spike.

TNA is basically just like one of those MTV promotions (Lucha Libre USA, WSX, etc) that exist solely due to whether the network chooses to air them, except TNA also runs PPV's that nobody buys.

I mean, the reality is that nobody can exist without TV these days, including WWE, but you get the idea. It's hard to call TNA a regular full time promotion at this point. ROH will run more shows next year and be the #2 touring group in the U.S.

I shudder to think about any other businesses Dixie had a hand in running over the years. Though if I had to guess, she looked at pro wrasslin as a fun little hobby for her early on.

Papa Carter is a patient, rich, undyingly-loyal-to-his-daughter fucker.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Single location mass tapings, no house shows, and almost all revenue derived from money being paid by Spike.

TNA is basically just like one of those MTV promotions (Lucha Libre USA, WSX, etc) that exist solely due to whether the network chooses to air them, except TNA also runs PPV's that nobody buys.

I mean, the reality is that nobody can exist without TV these days, including WWE, but you get the idea. It's hard to call TNA a regular full time promotion at this point. ROH will run more shows next year and be the #2 touring group in the U.S.

This is what happens when you have a real business looking at the books of a wrestling company. As I've said before, they had someone look at them that they didn't want to (we've now learned it was Mama Carter).

Everything sounds bad, and maybe it is, but this sounds more like a business that looked at the books, cleaned them up, and are now looking to regroup and reorganize to set themselves up to be profitable. It looks like its a company that wants to stay afloat rather than just let sink. They are just no longer going to give Dixie carte blanche with the check book and they are getting down to the bare bones to see if this TNA project can turn a profit. They've legitimately cut all of the fat they could at this point.

-Took this show off the road. It was a massive failure all around and was probably their biggest expenditure.
-Streamlined middle management.
-Cut the fat from the ancillary business-side of the company (PR, HR, etc)
-Cut the bloat from the oversized roster and those they kept were selectively asked to take paycuts and take on expanded roles (notice the teaming together or random pairs, the women that aren't being used regularly, now working as valets, etc).
-They let their biggest contracts expire and set them up to renegotiate to friendlier deals (Anderson, Hulk, Devon, etc).

All of this stuff is just token business practice, IMO. I don't know how much to look into it beyond that. The cancellation and consolidating of shows late in the year, looks like they just want to muscle past Bound for Glory and finish up 2013 and regroup for 2014. If 2014 shows that this is a no-win situation and its constantly in the red with this unbloated roster, then, we might be looking at the Carter's selling. But I think they'll give it the ol college try in 2014. It'll be an important year for them.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I shudder to think about any other businesses Dixie had a hand in running over the years. Though if I had to guess, she looked at pro wrasslin as a fun little hobby for her early on.

Papa Carter is a patient, rich, undyingly-loyal-to-his-daughter fucker.

Papa Carter is supposedly no longer giving his check book to Dixie and everything I've read says he has backed away from whatever involvement (which was probably none to begin with) he had.

Mama Carter is now looking at the book and once she did, you saw widespread cuts and restructuring.