The General Wrestling Thread

[JimLeavy59]

Brodus will fire her on the next RAW so the kids learn that drinking and driving is wrong.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

You know, along these lines, for years people said, "Paul Heyman & Jim Cornette are really busy doing nothing, and nobody utilizes these great wrestling minds!"

Cornette got back in the game with ROH, and ROH has gone into the shitter, a lot of that due to bad (boring) booking.

It makes you wonder if all of these people that we pine for to gain power, like Heyman, Jim Ross, Raven, Gabe Sapolsky, etc would do any better on the national stage in the current environment.

Dave Lagana seems to do well wherever he goes, and TNA is a million times better since he showed up and Russo left. But it's still a committee there.

Sapolsky hasn't had a creative home run since probably 2006 or so. He still has an eye for talent gets people over within his small niche, but creatively, his praise is largely based on stuff that in some cases is a decade old now. And DG/EVOLVE doesn't draw shit unless the big DG names come over, and even then they aren't gigantic indie houses or anything.

I think it was Heyman who always said that bookers have a short shelf life, and nobody can successfully churn out ideas for longer than a few years.

Heyman himself seem to be running on empty during the dying days of ECW, but after turning shit in to gold for a few years, there is only so much you can do with Julio Dinero, The Muskateer, and Chilly Willy. They had nothing left. To his credit, he did get Rhino over during that period, who was nothing more than a cheesy looking indie guy at the time.

Cornette's booking style is just too old school...its bland and boring. ROH isn't shit...its not...its just boring...they don't pay angles off when they are hot...or, haven't anyway.

Sapolsky has the eye for talent...hell, who woulda thought Gargano would have been a top Indy talent 3 years ago and he'd put together a top feud with Gargano versus uber Indie geek Chuck Taylor. Couple that with the load of talent DG/Evolve has put together recently. Problem is, the gates are garbo, despite good story telling being told. But, potentially offset with the start of WWN which brings in some extra cash at no cost. How would he do on a national level? Not too well as a booker. However, as a scout, talent evaluator...I think he'd succeed.

Lagana is doing well in TNA.

Heyman can get a lot of shit over and I think he's enough of a forward thinker where he as a booker could evolve. The final run in ECW...there was some successes...Rhino, Justin Credible, Super Crazy. But it is really fucking hard getting over some of the real shit they had on the roster. But he evolved...I thought his work on Smackdown was very good. His work in OVW set the stage for another generation of WWE talents...and he continued that with turning some chicken shit into chicken salad with WWECW until Vince got down and dirty with the product. With his direction...it would have been a good brand. Today...if he had his own ship to sail, I think he'd put out a good product.

[Derrville]

It just said Cena Sucks.

I got that.

You said

Funny the WWE let me keep that one but made me throw out a sign that simply said Cena Sucks

I got the impression you had two.

[EmpireWF]

Cornette's booking style is just too old school...its bland and boring. ROH isn't shit...its not...its just boring...they don't pay angles off when they are hot...or, haven't anyway.

Wasn't that the criticism of Cornette's run as OVW booker toward the end (before getting shitcanned over the Santino incident)? Heyman was given the job and instantly did the Jeter turn and hot feud with Cappotelli.

[Bigpapa42]

Apparently Devon left TNA.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Apparently Devon left TNA.

I have no idea why he and Bubba would leave TNA...no one will use them nearly as well as TNA has...I mean, TNA has given fucking Devon a significant run with a title and Bubba is a damn main eventer and on TV every week in a major capacity.

They can go to Japan and make money...but they'll be put together back in a tag team fo sho.

[s@ppisgod]

If Bully Ray is going to follow him out the door, it's bad all around. He'd be a moron, for one. Anything else he goes to is a downgrade. And TNA is SOL. He's their top heel by a wide margin, even though they book Roode as that guy.

Let Devon leave, because no one cares.

[Warner2BruceTD]

This person was not only in the worst wrestling match i've ever seen, but she also has the world's worst twitter feed. All she does is spam her followers (somehow, she has over 1,000) with merch ads.

https://twitter.com/BacardiWrestler

[TheImmortalGoud]

A lot of his tweets are referencing WWE. Any chance he could be returning?

[Warner2BruceTD]

A lot of his tweets are referencing WWE. Any chance he could be returning?

Talking about Devon? He could be angling for a return, but I wouldn't be shocked if something is already in the works. I don't think he's anything more than a mid carder, although he is very well liked.

If you are talking about Bubba, there is more potential there with him, but his contract situation has been no secret so i'm sure he sent out feelers. If he leaves TNA, I would suspect that means he's on his way to WWE. If he re signs, that probably means there wasn't much interest. If he was 100% TNA, he would have never made noise about his contract coming up to begin with and would have quietly re signed.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Also remember, WWE is being very careful with signing TNA people right now because of the lawsuit. WWE hired a former TNA office employee who TNA is claiming provided WWE with insider information, namely talent contract details. This is the suspected reason that the Alex Shelley thing is on hold, among other things.

[EmpireWF]

Flair is probably on ice till that lawsuit concludes, too.

[Guest]

Talking about Devon? He could be angling for a return, but I wouldn't be shocked if something is already in the works. I don't think he's anything more than a mid carder, although he is very well liked.

If you are talking about Bubba, there is more potential there with him, but his contract situation has been no secret so i'm sure he sent out feelers. If he leaves TNA, I would suspect that means he's on his way to WWE. If he re signs, that probably means there wasn't much interest. If he was 100% TNA, he would have never made noise about his contract coming up to begin with and would have quietly re signed.

Also, bringing both back to WWE would fly in the face of the product they are promoting. They could care less about tag teams and making things more violent with bringing back hardcore rules and matches. Though a return of the Dudleys could help both areas. If both come to the WWE, they won't be used right.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Also, bringing both back to WWE would fly in the face of the product they are promoting. They could care less about tag teams and making things more violent with bringing back hardcore rules and matches. Though a return of the Dudleys could help both areas. If both come to the WWE, they won't be used right.

Oddly i hadnt even thought of bringing them in together, i had almost forgotten they were a team.

I never "got" the Dudleyz, even in ECW, but I think reforming in WWE would have some juice, at least at the start.

If you recall, they were the first victims of the trademarked name policy when they left. People were shocked, now its commonplace.

[BigBiss]

if they sign on for more money, why would they care if they are missed used