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  • EmpireWF
    Giants in the Super Bowl
    • Mar 2009
    • 24082

    Originally posted by dave
    After reading Johnny Curtis' bio on Wikipedia, this guy is like Bryan Danielson, he's paid his dues and is worthy of this push.
    Yes, Curtis has been around and then some. Deserves this opportunity to make money after busting his ass forever.

    Just not sure he's any more over to joe blow WWE fan now than a week ago. The music is, but we'll see whether it catches on in arenas.


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    • dave
      Go the fuck outside
      • Oct 2008
      • 15492

      Originally posted by EmpireWF
      Yes, Curtis has been around and then some. Deserves this opportunity to make money after busting his ass forever.

      Just not sure he's any more over to joe blow WWE fan now than a week ago. The music is, but we'll see whether it catches on in arenas.
      I understand your sentiment, but how's that different from Daniel Bryan/Bryan Danielson? Daniel Bryan didn't get over until that crazy YES chant at last year's Wrestlemania.
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      • EmpireWF
        Giants in the Super Bowl
        • Mar 2009
        • 24082

        Originally posted by dave
        I understand your sentiment, but how's that different from Daniel Bryan/Bryan Danielson? Daniel Bryan didn't get over until that crazy YES chant at last year's Wrestlemania.
        True.

        We don't know yet whether people in arenas will be doing Fandango's song & dance the way the YES deal caught fire....and I'm not confident they will.


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        • dave
          Go the fuck outside
          • Oct 2008
          • 15492

          Originally posted by EmpireWF
          True.

          We don't know yet whether people in arenas will be doing Fandango's song & dance the way the YES deal caught fire....and I'm not confident they will.
          IMO, Fandango has his Miss Elizabeth, the right theme song, the mic ability, the right look and enough in-ring ability to get over. That Chris Jericho let him get over at Wrestlemania tells me that I am likely right.
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          • Warner2BruceTD
            2011 Poster Of The Year
            • Mar 2009
            • 26142

            Originally posted by dave
            I understand your sentiment, but how's that different from Daniel Bryan/Bryan Danielson? Daniel Bryan didn't get over until that crazy YES chant at last year's Wrestlemania.
            Originally posted by EmpireWF
            True.

            We don't know yet whether people in arenas will be doing Fandango's song & dance the way the YES deal caught fire....and I'm not confident they will.
            Daniel Bryan was widely recognized as the best wrestler in the world (or at least North America) for many years before he signed with the WWE. He turned them down multiple times when offered deals because he was enjoying working on the indy scene & in Japan, doing the kinds of matches he liked to do. When they finally signed him, they were going to put him directly on the main roster, which is unheard of, but he asked to go to Florida.

            Bryan was also already over by Mania. He was over before he won MITB, but really that's where he started to take off. The YES thing started before Mania.

            Not the same path as Curtis at all. Curtis has languished in the system for years and was never considered a big time prospect. Only similarity is the Mania crowd reacting to Bryan despite being a heel, like the RAW crowd did for Fandango as a heel.

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            • Warner2BruceTD
              2011 Poster Of The Year
              • Mar 2009
              • 26142

              Impact did a 0.9, main event did a 1.1 (those Hardy fans always show up).

              Lowest rating of 2013.

              People are making a big deal, but I would wait to see a trend before I panic. Could be an anomaly. Encouraging that people tuned in for the Full Metal Mayhem main event, though.

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              • Bigpapa42
                Junior Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 3185

                Saw the ratings noted on Twitter. Sucks for TNA.

                I'll be honest - I've stopped watching. It hasn't been terrible, but the Aces n' 8s storyline just slowly killed my interest. I like the sound of what they've been doing since Bully Ray joined... but not quite enough to start throwing the time toward it every week...

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                • Warner2BruceTD
                  2011 Poster Of The Year
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 26142

                  Its worth recording for the tag team stuff, which has been awesome. I also like GutCheck even though they always make the wrong decision nearly every single time.

                  Its basically just an average wrestling show. It annoys me less than RAW.

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                  • Bigpapa42
                    Junior Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 3185

                    Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                    Its worth recording for the tag team stuff, which has been awesome. I also like GutCheck even though they always make the wrong decision nearly every single time.

                    Its basically just an average wrestling show. It annoys me less than RAW.
                    Your description is pretty much why I kept watching for a long while. Ignore the Hogan shit, the Knockouts, and most of the Aces & Eights junk... there was enough there to interest me. But nothing hooked me.

                    I think the biggest reason I haven't watched the last two months is down more to a technical issue than TNA itself... I don't have Spike HD (stupid extra package) and for some reason, the audio sucks balls. Can't just crank it up either. While not being able to hear the commentary might sometimes be a good thing, it fuckin sucks when you have to work to hear most of the promos.

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                    • Liquidrob
                      Izzy is a bum
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 11785

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                      The 10 Fighters Who Changed The Game

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                      • Warner2BruceTD
                        2011 Poster Of The Year
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 26142

                        (Daniel) Bryan did an interview with the Washington Post where he said that he doesn’t consider himself a great wrestler anymore. When asked about his current role, he said, “I don’t consider it wrestling. I’ve done wrestling everywhere. And just by being a good wrestler you can become popular, but not here. It’s more important to be entertaining than it is to be a great wrestler. It’s fascinating to me. Some things just stick. Why it happens, I have no idea.”

                        Regarding wrestling itself, he said, “One of the things that people don’t understand, even people here, people within the company, to me, wrestling is art. It’s a form of performance art. And there’s so much that goes into it that other people aren’t seeing.”
                        I've been banging this drum on the podcast for a while now.

                        If you had told me 4 or 5 years ago that Bryan Danielson would succeed in the WWE as the next Hacksaw Duggan/Santino/Hornswoggle, i'd have laughed you out of the room.

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                        • FedEx227
                          Delivers
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 10454

                          It's amazing really but more power to him if he's self aware. He did his "wrestling" thing now he's out there to entertain. Can't blame him if he's fully aware of what he's doing.
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                          • dave
                            Go the fuck outside
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 15492

                            I totally respect Daniel Bryan (thanks a lot to Warner2BruceTD), but he's an entertainer now, not a wrestler. I knew nothing about Bryan Danielson until Warner2BruceTD. Thanks for that, W2BTD.
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                            • LiquidLarry2GhostWF
                              Highwayman
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 15429

                              Originally posted by Warner2BruceTD
                              I've been banging this drum on the podcast for a while now.

                              If you had told me 4 or 5 years ago that Bryan Danielson would succeed in the WWE as the next Hacksaw Duggan/Santino/Hornswoggle, i'd have laughed you out of the room.
                              I think D-Bry is really underselling himself. I mean, this guy curled up into a ball and had Tyson Kidd spin him around in a circle.

                              That's talent.

                              But seriously though...he had a good run in the ring for the WWE over a year ago...but since, they just have him out there acting like an asshole and being goofy.

                              He's getting paid handsomely, I'm sure...so I doubt he's disappointed right now with not being able to put on 30 minute clinics for the 500 people in the live audience that would appreciate it.

                              However, to be fair, the greats in the WWE were always able to straddle the line. Punk is very entertaining...and while he's not going out there and putting on clinics, he has himself some very good workrate matches in his portfolio. Maybe its because Punk is given the forum to do it...probably is the case. Shawn and Bret, too...straddled the line of entertainment and workrate. We're talking about Danielson's peers in the ring, not exceptions to the rule, though.

                              He can be both...I guess it just means he needs to be given the forum to do so.

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                              • s@ppisgod
                                No longer a noob
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 1032

                                I was never a fan of Danielson in the Indies. Yeah, he was great, but he wasn't my cup of tea. Now, if anytime, I should feel justified in not being a fan. But the more I read from the guy and hear in his interviews, the more he comes off as a really smart, likeable guy. I'm starting to really come around on the guy just as his career is hitting new lows. Awesome.

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