The General Wrestling Thread

[s@ppisgod]

They need to swallow their pride and replay a few of those WCW All Nighters. Ahh nostalgia.
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[Warner2BruceTD]

I want to see all of those old 80's house shows from MSG, Boston Garden, Toronto Maple Leaf Gardens, Philly Spectrum, and Washington DC Cap Center.

Not for the boring Hulk Hogan main events, but for the long forgotten under card matches like Lanny Poffo vs. Jose Luis Rivera, and Pete Doherty vs. Scott Casey.

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

anybody have a good link for WWE tv info? Like price etc?

[BigBiss]

Biss needs to come back and tell us how cool it is to work with the one and only Colt Cabana tomorrow.

Colt was awesome called two matches with him and he bought the table quaso after the show, 100% class act.

also met the nasty boys who were 2 of the biggest peices of shit ever

[EmpireWF]

6-year anniversary of Eddie's death.





[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y-8-XE_D9s"]Eddie Guerrero Tribute 01 - YouTube[/ame]

[FedEx227]

WWE Survivor Series: Traditional Survivor Series Matches Going Away? Fine by Me

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/938925-wwe-survivor-series-traditional-survivor-series-matches-going-away-fine-by-me

Over the past five years, much has been made about the devaluing of not only traditional 8 or 10-man Survivor Series matches but the entire WWE Survivor Series pay-per-view. WWE chairman Vince McMahon very nearly axed the entire pay-per-view in 2010 stating:

"We (WWE) think Survivor Series is obsolete. It worked many, many years ago but it's outlasted its usage. It's one of the PPVs we will be looking at in terms of rebranding. We will no longer have that title any more."

Thankfully, McMahon reconsidered and the name remained a part of the WWE pay-per-view cycle.

The name recognition of one of the big four pay-per-views (WrestleMania, Royal Rumble, Summerslam and Survivor Series) is simply too valuable to throw away on the premise of an outdated concept.

Simply put, if the outdated concept of the traditional Survivor Series matches (8 or 10-man) are put out to pasture. I will not be shedding any tears.

[SHOGUN]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYWDsw3iaF0"]Dean Ambroes and William Regal cuts promos! (Reagl attacks Ambroes, Ambrose attacks Regal) - YouTube[/ame]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtAi9zbVc_w"]FCW TV 06.11.2011 - Dean Ambrose vs. William Regal - YouTube[/ame]

[Warner2BruceTD]

I like the traditional survivor matches. I think they open up great booking possibilities, and also provide a nice change of pace.

I think the WWE has done a great job booking Royal Rumble matches, but a horrible job booking the survivor matches. There were tons of survivor matches that were basically throw away in terms of the way they were booked.

[Warner2BruceTD]

I should also add that I think the recent Royal Rumbles have been booked well. Previous to that, I think they over did the gimmick where somebody lasted the entire match to win.

[s@ppisgod]

I like the traditional survivor matches. I think they open up great booking possibilities, and also provide a nice change of pace.

I think the WWE has done a great job booking Royal Rumble matches, but a horrible job booking the survivor matches. There were tons of survivor matches that were basically throw away in terms of the way they were booked.

Yeah, they never seemed to give two shits about SS matches. I mean, look at the Hart family match. The match quality was garbage for involving Michaels and the Harts. But they only wanted to get one thing out of that match, but that one thing was worked perfectly. They were lazy with 'em. Like the two big guys that they didn't want to look weak always got double count-outs and shit. It was always formulaic and the main reason why they think it's obsolete is because they never invested shit in the matches in the first place. Sunmerslam is still a big deal with no gimmicks. Why? Because they actuallu try and make it important.
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[Warner2BruceTD]

Aside from the Harts vs. Michaels & the masked men, the only other SS match that comes to mind that told a good story was the tag team match where they did the Demolition/Powers of Pain double turn.

[EmpireWF]

WWE doesn't invest in tag matches, period, and hasn't for too long.

[Warner2BruceTD]

From talking with people internally, there continues to be the notable talk of Vince McMahon still not being himself. It’s described like he’s got the flu and fatigues faster than in the past, although this flu has lingered now for a number of weeks. The description is Vince is usually pretty much himself on Mondays, where he takes apart Raw and the Raw show is nothing like the show the writers present to him because of all the late changes he makes. But when it comes to Tuesday, after the grueling Monday, he seems tired and just rubber stamps almost everything Ed Koskey (head Smackdown writer) puts in front of him. So Smackdown’s final product is very similar to how it’s written, with all the key matches and almost all segments in place. That’s why Smackdown seems to make more sense week-to-week.

[FedEx227]

And is increasing in ratings likewise.

[FedEx227]

Aside from the Harts vs. Michaels & the masked men, the only other SS match that comes to mind that told a good story was the tag team match where they did the Demolition/Powers of Pain double turn.

That's what I mean. If you actually go back, they really aren't memorable at all. We look at them with rosey glasses because it was a staple of the past but by and large... they weren't good or interesting.