The General Wrestling Thread

[SHOGUN]

Punk/AmDrag was fantastic.

[SHOGUN]

Cena/Johnny Ace = MINUS FIVE STARS.

[Bigpapa42]

Yeah on their website (TNA) their roster looks nice. We'll see though. I thoroughly enjoyed WWE wrestling from 02-05 and I thought it was still good in 06 and 07 but eventually lost interest. I've been watching a lot of old matches and this shit is just not the same and I wish it was. I loved Raw when Eric Bischoff was GM, what happened?

The WWE went PG in 2008 and tried to "clean up the product". The fundamental reason was that Linda McMahon ran for Senate in 2010 but it was also some reaction to the Benoit murders. They began to specifically target the product toward kids. They also try to control everything, and most new talent is developed in-house, which means they are only ever taught to work "the WWE way" and they don't really learn to cut promos but simply read scripts. Its not really pro wrestling anymore, its purely Sports Entertainment" and it isn't targeted at us.

Good luck with TNA. Product-wise, its not really different all from the E. Its really just different talent. I like some of the talent they have, but watching them retarded shit constantly turned me off to the point where I won't bother at all anymore.

[JayDizzle]

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Where my money at?

[JayDizzle]

Addendum:

And they've fought before...

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[Warner2BruceTD]

Well, it's not like Punk invented the G2S or Anaconda Vice, either...

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[Warner2BruceTD]

By the way, that Tenzan video is a G1 Climax final. Look how hard Tanahashi fights that hold, and how they have the crowd so engrossed in the outcome. And Tenzan's facials after the bell are so great.

Also, I love the variety of positions KENTA hits the Go 2 Sleep, and the different kind of bumps each guy takes.

I really wish the WWE wasn't so generic and sterile in the way these guys could deliver these moves. The hard camera thing bugs me, and they hardly ever let a guy fight a hold the way Tanahashi does in that video because they think it will make the hold look weak. The truth is, that match helped get Tanahashi get over to a new level.

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Quick debate...what was worse...Cena v. Kane the first time around or Cena v. Big Johnny?

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I love how KENTA just cranks back on the G2S and follows through...makes it look like a billion bucks.

[Bigpapa42]

This Raw fucking sucks. First half hour entirely dedicated to the Cena-GM bullshit.

[SHOGUN]

I <3 Yandere AJ.

[dave]

What the heck happened to Lord Tensai? He's now just Tensai. And the crowd keeps chanting Albert. I feel bad for Giant Bernard or whatever the hell his name is ... he's dead to WWE fans.

[Warner2BruceTD]

What the heck happened to Lord Tensai? He's now just Tensai. And the crowd keeps chanting Albert. I feel bad for Giant Bernard or whatever the hell his name is ... he's dead to WWE fans.

Listen to the podcast.

Seriously though, that gimmick was full of fail from the get go. Poor guy.

[EmpireWF]

WWE realized he wasn't getting over so they panic and change course. Doesn't matter since the gimmick doesn't work without a mouthpiece for the guy.

I love heel Big Show.

I LMAO when WWE figured out (whether Johnny Ace fucked up his promo or they legit discovered via twitter) what Johnny Ace said made no sense about signing Big Show on Saturday. They already said the WWE Board would fire any WWE wrestler who interfered in the PPV main event. If what Ace said was meant to be, then Show should've been fired based on logic. So when they got back from commercial, they had Lawler bring up the fuck up and Cole set the record straight lol. Show only verbally agreed to a deal before PPV and inked it Monday.

[Warner2BruceTD]

A crazy story from wXw, which is the top group in Germany, and uses a lot of top indie talent:

On the Friday show, during a six-man no DQ match with Absolute Andy & Bad Bones & D.J. Hyde vs. Masada & Mike Schwarz & Ivan Markov, it was a mess. Markov is a Russian who was supposedly recommended to the office by El Generico. Reports from those there live said he wasn't any good and screwed up most or all of his spots, including basic moves like a suplex or reversing a whip. He also had his girlfriend who was his valet with him and would ignore the match at times to sit on the apron and talk to her. At one pointed he landed a stiff knee or kick to the temple of Bad Bones and knocked him out. Bones later said he lost feeling in both of his legs for a short time and was motionless with his arms twitching. His left eye was swollen shut and his eye and temple were black and blue. Absolute Andy, who is one of Bones' best friends, started going after Markov hard way. Bones hit Markov with a cheese grater when he recovered and busted him up. Markov was bleeding all over the place and needed seven stitches in his chin that night at the hospital.

A German message board was critical of how Bones and Andy reacted, but the wXw office backed them saying Markov had been unprofessional all day vanished from the arena at Noon and only came back 10 minutes before his match, causing them to almost re-book the match. He reported spoke to nobody backstage and didn't go over the match. They also were critical of his girlfriend/valet for ignoring what was going on in the match. They claimed Andy beating on him was a preventative strike so he didn't hurt anyone else. Reportedly more took place backstage. In the office's latest statement, they said Generico never recommended him, even though earlier they said he did and there is apparently taped proof or at least was of that, and that people were critical of a soccer kick Andy gave him but usually pop for the same spot and praise how stiff everyone works.

Markov on a Russian site said he didn't expect the match to be as stiff as it was and thought the match was going to be called in the ring. He said nobody wanted to work with him and that Bad Bones had broken his nose on a worked spot and kept working stiff, so he worked stiff back, threw a knee and Bones went down. He said unless they edit the tape, people will see he was not at fault.