2011 NFL Draft Thread (Rounds 4-7 @ 12PM EST)

[Survivor]

Yeah, I am absolutely shocked. I honestly believe he could've been there tomorrow...STILL waiting to be drafted. Degenerative arthritis in his knee at his age. Speculation that microfracture surgery is a very likely possibility and his chances of playing beyond a first contract are slim.

But hey, that's how the Bucs run shit now.

How many second round picks have as high a ceiling as Bowers? If Bowers lasts one contract and helps us get over our hump defensively, then I say it's worth it. He will be a solid player next season at LE.

 

[CaribbeanJoseph]

Get a much needed playmaking linebacker in Akeem Ayers and some beef in the middle with Jurrell Casey. Reinfeldt said all needs are met now and we should be going BPA from here on forward.

Really liking our draft so far.

:facepalm:


- Ayers is horribly overrated

- DT was the more pressing need we should have gone with Austin or Paea in the second

- Foster/Moch/Houston/Wilson/Sheppard at least one would of been there in the third

- Casey over Nevis or even Ellis?

- The Colts getting Nevis makes it even worse



I have no problem with the positions we've drafted, it's the players we've picked/passed on that I take issue with. Honestly Woy, we could draft my granny and you'd be gushing about what a great pick it was, I really have no idea how you can be pleased with the way our draft has gone so far, you are definitely in the minority.

 

[Tailback U]

yes they are.

Oh thanks, cuz I forgot you know everything.

srs? There secondary was suspect. Only one guy was getting any pressure and he whiffed twice. They need defense. They gave up 3-5 potential starters over two drafts.

Their secondary will only get better. Grimes, Decoud, and Moore are all getting better. Dunta is still good.

Abraham had a great year. He's still not declining, somehow. Biermann was one of the best defensive players in the league last season, he is going to be a good one.

3-5 potential starters? You are assuming that. Julio Jones is basically a sure fire lock to step on the field and make an immediate impact. Tell me who they could have taken that would have stepped in and made an immediate impact on offense or defense right away. Jones instantly makes that team more explosive.

Did they overpay for him? Right now, yes. But we won't really know how badly until we see Jones. As always, time will tell.

 

[Blick]

Scott Pioli is killing the draft so far. I fucking love it.

 

[Hitman]

Scott Pioli is killing the draft so far. I fucking love it.

Agreed. All of the guys drafted so far are potential impact starters this year. Very nice.

 

[Sharkweather]

Their secondary will only get better. Grimes, Decoud, and Moore are all getting better. Dunta is still good.

Abraham had a great year. He's still not declining, somehow.

3-5 potential starters? You are assuming that. Julio Jones is basically a sure fire lock to step on the field and make an immediate impact. Tell me who they could have taken that would have stepped in and made an immediate impact on offense or defense right away. Jones instantly makes that team more explosive.

Did they overpay for him? Right now, yes. But we won't really know how badly until we see Jones. As always, time will tell.

I mean ATL's defense only gave up 18 points a game, 5th in the league, but the only thing anyone can remember is the last game.

 

[Buzzman]

Not entirely sure how I feel about us taking Young and Leshoure. Both fill needs but we had bigger needs at linebacker and corner back. This is what happens when you pick the best available player.

You have to wonder though, I would be bet a good amount of money that the Lions did look at CBs and or a LB, but they honestly didn't like any of them that were available. After Jimmy Smith, Peterson, and Prince, I didn't like a single CB out there. Then with the LBs this had to be one of the weakest classes with them.

While I was shocked and disappointed by the pick of Young he can stretch the field and you have to remember anything was better then Bryant Johnson. Burleson/Young should be a great compliment to Calvin.

Mikel Leshoure on the other hand is the thunder to Best speed. best was never going to be an everyday back. Hell the guy got hurt 3 times his rookie year. Leshoure has power for those short yardage situations but still has enough speed to split series with best, so they can both be fresh all season long.

Our draft was completely unpredictable. I actually didn't like any of the picks initially but looking at who was available, it made more sense and now I love our draft so far.

 

[G-men]

:facepalm:


- Ayers is horribly overrated

- DT was the more pressing need we should have gone with Austin or Paea in the second

- Foster/Moch/Houston/Wilson/Sheppard at least one would of been there in the third

- Casey over Nevis or even Ellis?

- The Colts getting Nevis makes it even worse



I have no problem with the positions we've drafted, it's the players we've picked/passed on that I take issue with. Honestly Woy, we could draft my granny and you'd be gushing about what a great pick it was, I really have no idea how you can be pleased with the way our draft has gone so far, you are definitely in the minority.

enlighten me, what makes him so horribly overrated?

 

[godspeed]

Oh thanks, cuz I forgot you know everything.



Their secondary will only get better. Grimes, Decoud, and Moore are all getting better. Dunta is still good.

Even if they get better, the overall quality isn;t very good compared to other playoff caliber teams.

For the year, they were in the bottom 10 in passing yards, and the 4th worst in pass completion, 65% of passes were completed vs their defense.

Sure the scoring defense did a good job of bending and not breaking, but as a fan, the secondary just is not on par with any of the playoff teams.

 

[Leftwich]

Scott Pioli is killing the draft so far. I fucking love it.

Don't forget about Ozzie Newsome of the Ravens. He just filled two big needs with Jimmy and Torrey Smith. The Jah Reid pick was very questionable because they traded up to get a player that would have still been there.

 

[Colonel Angus]

I mean ATL's defense only gave up 18 points a game, 5th in the league, but the only thing anyone can remember is the last game.

Just like the Packers defense a year prior. It just means the defense was exposed when it mattered most.

 

[SHOGUN]

I can breathe easy now that the Cardinals finally got a linebacker. Sam Acho is a solid pick.

 

[cf24]

I can breathe easy now that the Cardinals finally got a linebacker. Sam Acho is a solid pick.

Agreed on this. Good pick.
I know absolutely nothing about the TE we drafted..I'm guessing since the Cards never throw to the TE, he must be a blocker?
And as for the Ryan Williams pick...uhm..eh? I like the guy, don't get me wrong, but we've got 5 rb's now? Idk..I just hope its not LSH on the way out..

 

[RyanLeaf16]

Got a speedster in Edmond Gates. 4.35 40 at the combine. Scouting report notes he is a bit of a project player, but explosive in the open field and isn't afraid to go over the middle.

PFW draft profile on him:
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Asbhsynn8Vo[/ame]

 

[QuietStorm]

Cmon Skins... Draft Tyrod Taylor!!!

 

[SHOGUN]

Agreed on this. Good pick.
I know absolutely nothing about the TE we drafted..I'm guessing since the Cards never throw to the TE, he must be a blocker?
And as for the Ryan Williams pick...uhm..eh? I like the guy, don't get me wrong, but we've got 5 rb's now? Idk..I just hope its not LSH on the way out..

Nah, Housler is a raw receiver in the Jermichael Finley/Jimmy Graham mold. He a shitty blocker, but he tries hard. I guess this means they are actually going to use the tight end in the future, which would be welcomed.

It's most likely of the RBs it's Hightower that is going to be given the boot considering his fumble issues and contract.

 

[CaribbeanJoseph]

enlighten me, what makes him so horribly overrated?

Not very good against the run, poor tackler, won't be able to rely on his athleticism to get him out of trouble like he did in college, his football smarts/instincts/whatever you wanna call it are suspect, he's a decent pass rusher but that's down to his speed. I'd much rather we took Justin Houston who I think is a simialar prospect in terms of versatiliy, who has way more upside imo.

 

[f16harm]

Got a speedster in Edmond Gates. 4.35 40 at the combine. Scouting report notes he is a bit of a project player, but explosive in the open field and isn't afraid to go over the middle.

PFW draft profile on him:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Asbhsynn8Vo

We got a steal in the 4th round IMO. Someone who can stretch the field vertically and allow Marshall to do his work.

I think Miami has had a nice, quiet, solid draft.

 

[RyanLeaf16]

We got a steal in the 4th round IMO. Someone who can stretch the field vertically and allow Marshall to do his work.

I think Miami has had a nice, quiet, solid draft.

Definitely. I think it has been an excellent draft thus far and they are quietly getting pieces in place for that offense to be more of a threat this season.

 

[SHOGUN]

I hate the Patriots on draft day. Another value pick in Cannon.