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2011 NFL Draft Thread (Rounds 4-7 @ 12PM EST)

What need does Julio fill exactly?

As for the Lions, strange pick. It's a sexy pick to think about the potential run defense and QB sacks but how can they pass on a potential franchise left tackle? It's almost as if they like watching Stafford clutching his shoulder.
 
EmpireWF said:
What need does Julio fill exactly?

As for the Lions, strange pick. It's a sexy pick to think about the potential run defense and QB sacks but how can they pass on a potential franchise left tackle? It's almost as if they like watching Stafford clutching his shoulder.
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You've obviously never seen Michael Jenkins play WR.

But I guess I did forget about Harry Douglas, right PT???
 
Tailback U said:
You've obviously never seen Michael Jenkins play WR.

But I guess I did forget about Harry Douglas, right PT???
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Giving up that many picks for a complementary WR is insane ... assuming Cleveland maximizes those picks.

And giving up those picks for the 2nd best WR in the draft is even more insane.
 
Primetime232 said:
He compared you to Bundy, not himself. Still applies though.
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Al Bundy was a god. He once scored 3 touchdowns in 1 game at Polk High. Not even I accomplished that feat.

dave said:
Giving up that many picks for a complementary WR is insane ... assuming Cleveland maximizes those picks.

And giving up those picks for the 2nd best WR in the draft is even more insane.
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LOL this is exactly what I'm talking about. How/why are you so sure that he is the 2nd best WR in the draft, Dave?

You are assuming an awful lot. That's all anybody is doing. Yet for some strange reason, some of you sound like you actually think you can predict the future. That's all I'm saying. CARRY ON!!!
 
Tailback U said:
LOL this is exactly what I'm talking about. How/why are you so sure that he is the 2nd best WR in the draft, Dave?

You are assuming an awful lot. That's all anybody is doing. Yet for some strange reason, some of you sound like you actually think you can predict the future. That's all I'm saying. CARRY ON!!!
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Admittedly, I'm not sure of that ... but I am sure of this much - giving up all those draft picks for pretty much any WR is insane.
 
inthecards21 said:
steelers should have traded up for Prince
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I thought we would take Aaron Williams, no way we trade up though just not in our blood. I'm confused, but as an organization I trust what we are doing and they know what's goin on.

DE- Aaron Smith 13 years
DE- Brett Keisel 10 years
DE- Nick Eason 9 years
DE- Ziggy Hood 3 years
T- Casey Hampton 11 years
T- Chris Hoke 10 years
T- ? Steve McLendon 2 years

Jason Worilds can come down and play DE 2 years

I have really wanted to take secondary last draft and this draft and it is killing us while everyone else in the division is adding WRs.

Ike- FA don't know if he will return, 9 years
Gay- :smug: 5 years
McFadden- FSU homer and he can play when wants but other times can look completely lost, 7 years
Clark- hard hitter 10 years, gotta upgrade
TP- nuff said when healthy, 9 years
 
dave said:
Admittedly, I'm not sure of that ... but I am sure of this much - giving up all those draft picks for pretty much any WR is insane.
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Not if he gets them over the hump.

Matt Ryan threw a pick towards the end of the first half against the Packers last season because he forced a pass to the only WR he trusted. Maybe if he had another threat on the field that could beat a corner like Tramon Williams/Charles Woodson then maybe the Falcons get some points on that drive instead of giving up 7. Maybe they win that game.

Who knows. Certainly not me. And certainly not a guy who weeps and sleeps in a puddle of his own jizz every night!!!
 
Tailback U said:
Not if he gets them over the hump.

Matt Ryan threw a pick towards the end of the first half against the Packers last season because he forced a pass to the only WR he trusted. Maybe if he had another threat on the field that could beat a corner like Tramon Williams/Charles Woodson then maybe the Falcons get some points on that drive instead of giving up 7. Maybe they win that game.

Who knows. Certainly not me. And certainly not a guy who weeps and sleeps in a puddle of his own jizz every night!!!
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A puddle of jizz? That would be awesome. And I never weep, baby. I am all man.

Anyway, I can't think of one NFL WR worth 5 premium draft picks. And Julio Jones is not a star NFL WR yet.
 
Scott Pioli gets an A on the first day. I had some guys I liked at 21, but I liked trading back, getting a high 3rd from the Browns, and getting a potential beast in Jon Baldwin.

Baldwin, Bowe, Moeaki, Charles, and McCluster looks real nice right now for KC.

LOL at Mel Kiper listing his needs for the Chiefs as OLB, NT, WR, and C...and the Chiefs come up and it's "look for the Chiefs to get a right tackle here"...the fuck?

Agree with Omar about the Lions taking Fairley to pair with Suh. Stroud and Henderson were both big, strong guys. Suh and Fairley are both penetrating 3 Tech's. They'll be monsters getting after the QB, but I think you can run on them.

The Falcons pulling a Mike Ditka and trading away all of that shit for Julio Jones doesn't make a lot of sense to me. You got Roddy White, Michael Jenkins, Harry Douglas, Tony Gonzalez, and you trade up for a receiver when your defense just got raped in the playoffs? Alright. Julio Jones is a nice player, but he wasn't worth all that.

Don't agree with the Saints being big winners even though I like both of the players they got. You got raped by the Pats and gave them another first rounder. Congrats.

Shocked at the run on QB's...but I think Locker has potential. He came out of a pro system and that's pretty valuable these days, imo. I never thought much of Gabbert, but my Chiefs fan/Mizzou fan brethren swear that he's the real deal...and I can see some similarities to Josh Freeman in him.
 
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A puddle of jizz? That would be awesome. And I never weep, baby. I am all man.

Anyway, I can't think of one NFL WR worth 5 premium draft picks. And Julio Jones is not a star NFL WR yet.
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I agree with you that giving up that many picks for a WR is reaching, but it's not about the player, it's about how the player helps the team.

Right now it looks crazy but if you're Atlanta, close to a SB, and may be one more elite WR away from a Super Bowl then I can understand taking that risk.

And from everything I've heard, Julio Jones is supposed to end up being pretty damn good. We won't know how good until we see him, but I think he could step on the field right now and do better than Jenkins and Douglas.
 
dave said:
No popcorn. I have nothing but respect for Omar. We just disagree on this one.
This isn't Steeljake (Cleetus) vs. Dave.
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that doesnt make it any less fun to read... i love when two solid posters go toe to toe...
 
Blick said:
The Falcons pulling a Mike Ditka and trading away all of that shit for Julio Jones doesn't make a lot of sense to me. You got Roddy White, Michael Jenkins, Harry Douglas, Tony Gonzalez, and you trade up for a receiver when your defense just got raped in the playoffs? Alright. Julio Jones is a nice player, but he wasn't worth all that.
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exactly what I thought, you scored points why get another offensive player when you can upgrade your defense?

:bsmug:
 
Tailback U said:
I agree with you that giving up that many picks for a WR is reaching, but it's not about the player, it's about how the player helps the team.

Right now it looks crazy but if you're Atlanta, close to a SB, and may be one more elite WR away from a Super Bowl then I can understand taking that risk.

And from everything I've heard, Julio Jones is supposed to end up being pretty damn good. We won't know how good until we see him, but I think he could step on the field right now and do better than Jenkins and Douglas.
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Yeah, it's about Atlanta thinking they're a Julio Jones away from a Superbowl. But, are they really?

I guess they're gonna try to beat teams 49-48.
 
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