40 years from now...

[NAHSTE]

I know 40 years from now I'll still be listening to Nas and OutKast.

 

[strahanfan92]

Will Frank Sinatra be listened to 40 years from now?

 

[NAHSTE]

It will be interesting to see what an oldies station sounds like in two or three decades. Is Blink 182 and Rob Thomas going to be considered "classic rock"?

If so, kill me now.

 

[Houston]

Heard of them but can't name a song.

:smh:

 

[relaxedanderson]

My definition of broad is the "man on the street" test.

Most people wouldnt know Kanye West if they tripped over him on the sidewalk. Play his top 5 songs in a room full of 1,000 people, and do you think those songs would be instantly recognized by 99% of them as legendary Kanye West hits? Hold up his picture, how many would instantly recognize his image?

Now go try that with The Beatles or Madonna or The Rolling Stones or The Beach Boys or Nirvana or Elvis or even people like Brittany Spears or Eminem.

And critically acclaimed means nothing. The Velvet Underground is perhaps the most critically acclaimed musical act ever, and less than 1% of the population could pick them out of a lineup or name a single song.

West is a star within his bubble. His music does not have broad appeal and he will never be a mega star.

LIke I said earlier though, maybe i'm taking the idea of the thread to far. I guess you dont have to be iconic to be "remembered'. I feel like if West stopped making music tomorow, he'd largely become a footnote and nobody would be listening to his songs 10 years from now, let alone 40.

Pretty much the point I was coming in to make.

All I'll add is that in order to be remembered and revered in the long run you have to do one of two things:

1) Die young

2) Survive your inevitable catastrophic fall from fashion.

Number 1 is always an option but number 2 is very difficult to achieve. Every artist with any sort of mainstream profile will at some point go through a period where they are regarded as a joke; where people are embarrassed to admit in public that they ever listened to them.

At the end of this period every last thing that the artist built their career around will have been stripped bare and all that is left is their music. If this music is good enough then it will be rediscovered and they will be reborn and live forever. If it isn't then the only way they will be remembered is as a joke.

The problem with current music is that the vast majority of it is image-based and these sort of acts don't tend to do very well when the lean times come around. Just look at how much effort goes into the sculpting of persona in pop, hip-hop and R&B; the music is almost an afterthought.

The clothes, the videos, the interviews, the attitude etc. WILL all look ridiculous in a few years time, it's unavoidable. In 15 years time Lady Gaga won't be looked upon as a great style icon of the 2010s...she will be laughed at, mercilessly. Kanye West WILL be regarded as a crushingly uncool twat (rather than just a twat like he is now), mainly by the children of the people currently worshipping him. Then the music will have to stand on its own two feet for the first time, and from what I've heard I'm not optimistic.

I'd say we're generally looking at the 2010 versions of Kajagoogoo or the Bay City Rollers.

 

[Champ]

Daft Punk

 

[JBregz]

How about Vanilla Ice? But for the wrong reasons. I mean we all remember him still to this day for his one hit wonder song that occurred 22 years ago.

 

[Berowsk]

Relaxed nailed it on the head.

For me, good music has just got "it". It doesn't matter what genre of music it is, you can recognize it. This is the music that will be remembered, and the music that kids will rediscover the same way I discovered the Smiths in my mom's CD player and was hooked. Let me also say that it doesn't take a huge catalog of music like the Beatles to be remembered in years to come. The Sex Pistols put out 1 album. An album that will be listened to until the end of the world.

Bands that will probably still be relevant/listened to in 40 years.... (regardless of my opinion of them, and from my era or thereabouts)

U2
Pearl Jam
Metallica
Nirvana
The Ramones
The White Stripes
Radiohead
GnR
Beastie Boys

:wtf:

 

[Berowsk]

Dave Matthews music is horrible...

But there are people traveling far and wide to come see him this summer in AC? I think your opinion is a bit different than most peoples as well. That's why you're a hermit.

Jimmy Buffet will also be remembered as a great. Any artists that can consistently sell out shows now will be remembered in the future. I relate rap to doo-wop, which is consistently overshadowed by the rock music of the time. Rap's slowly phasing into more electronic type music, which will be the future (dubstep backings and heavy electronic synthesizer and auto-tune), but will also pass. Just regular good old rock, whether it's Jimmy Buffet or Metallica (The Beatles, Ramones) will be remembered over Kanye West or Eminem (The Penguins).

 

[Berowsk]

Jack White will go down as one of the most innovative musicians of our time, and the White Stripes will be relevant as a result. Everything this guy touches turns to gold. Rolling Stone had him in their top 20 of all time guitarists, and he's only 35 with much more to come.

Mark my words, The White Stripes will be listened to in 40 years.

With their current repertoire I would never even have them cross my mind as legendary. But you're right, Jack White is amazing and he has potential to be legendary. I don't see my grandkids listening to Seven Nation Army in 40 some odd years, though.

edit: and can somebody please remove that Photobucket shit on my award showcase?

 

[Berowsk]

Well I know my grandkids will, because if they're coming to see grandpa Heels, they're bound to hear some White Stripes.

They helped kick off the blues/garage rock revival we've seen over the last decade and have done it better than anyone I've seen. They're probably not as huge as the other bands I listed, but I know they'll still be massively respected and listened to in 40 years.

I think they'll be respected the same way you and Relaxed respect past bands. People with high music knowledge will love them to death because of their talent, but their songs won't be as mainstream as some current examples, like the Beatles or the Rolling Stones.

Great ghost edit, btw. Love that song.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

That I can agree with.

I just don't think we'll ever see a band as big as the Beatles were. They were a band with 4 great musicians, who came around at a time when music wasn't so spread out over so many genres. Today it's hard to appeal to so many people because the accessibility of music ensures you can hear exactly what you want to hear.

Want to hear a band playing death metal to the sounds of fucking? You can find it.

Bingo.

This is what I was trying to say when I said Kanye West does not have broad appeal. In terms of this discussion, who cares if he sells 3 million singles if 2 million of those people are college aged kids or younger. Plenty of commercially successful acts have little lasting appeal over decades.

Music has changed so dramatically in the last decade, that I see very few new acts that will stand the test of time like acts from the past. Things are just different now. Attenion spans are too short, and the digital era chages the way we treat and listen to music.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

The best way I can put the digital era is this:

People dont fall in love with artists anymore. They just fuck songs.

Anyone ever have a fuck buddy that standed the test of time?

 

[DoubleDeuce]

Who the fuck is Dave Matthews?

 

[JBregz]

The best way I can put the digital era is this:

People dont fall in love with artists anymore. They just fuck songs.

Anyone ever have a fuck buddy that standed the test of time?

 

[Berowsk]

:smh: such a bandwagon here.

Just because BEROWSK posted DMB, it's taboo to like DMB.

 

[DoubleDeuce]

:smh: such a bandwagon here.

Just because BEROWSK posted DMB, it's taboo to like DMB.

No, I'm completely serious. Who the fuck is Dave Matthews?

 

[Berowsk]

No, I'm completely serious. Who the fuck is Dave Matthews?

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqEOvEoCV3w[/ame]
He's the lead guitarist/instrumentalist/singer of the Dave Matthews Band. Berry berry big in the white community. That's probably his most famous song.

edit: Wait, you are white. And have 'bama bangs. I know you know Dave, stfu. I thought you were BigBucs.

 

[Berowsk]

I also think Katy Perry has a chance to make a lasting impact. She's definitely off to a great start.

Not a huge fan, but I have not met a person that has disliked Katy Perry. Now I wait for the "Katy Perry SUCKS" trolling, but hell, I'd much rather my generation be associated with her than Kanye West.

 

[leaffan]

:smh: such a bandwagon here.

Just because BEROWSK posted DMB, it's taboo to like DMB.

My hatred has run deep for many years. One of my many bannings at MM was due to me bashing the shit out of that faggot band because one of the admins kept posting about them all the time. I forget who it was though. I know it was someone fairly popular at the time.

Anyways they do suck balls.