A Song of Ice and Fire (Game of Thrones Books Thread)

[Fappin Raptor]

im 300ish in and im struggling...

I think I read it over the course of a month or two and also read 3-4 other books in that time, too.

 

[NAHSTE]

Now be prepared to drag through the first 600 pages of A Feast for Crows.

After churning through the first three books in six weeks, I'm gonna take a break until after S2 of the show is done airing.

 

[Rudi]

Damnnn

 

I can't believe they did Eddard like that

 

[Fappin Raptor]

Damnnn

 

I can't believe they did Eddard like that

That's why this series is awesome. They take a character of severe importance and just do that.

 

[NAHSTE]

Rudi you will soon grow numb to such surprises. It just becomes par for the course after a certain point.

 

[Rudi]

:lebron: at the ending. Shit is cray. I want to start reading the next book right now, but I'm going to force myself to take a break and watch the show

 

[SethMode]

I actually liked A Feast for Crows. I don't think it is nearly as bad as some would say it is, but it definitely starts slowly, and is a bit jarring to know that there are characters you just won't hear from until the next book (I can see why those who read it upon release would probably be furious though, considering how long they waited between 3 and 4, and then how long the wait was between 4 and 5). Still, the book ends strong I think, and there are questions/plots raised in it that I am then sad to not see resolved in book 5.

 

[mgoblue2290]

Its not bad as a book, its just not on the level the first 3 books are. The 5th book is only marginally better than the 4th too. Martin needs to step his game up.

 

[SethMode]

Its not bad as a book, its just not on the level the first 3 books are. The 5th book is only marginally better than the 4th too. Martin needs to step his game up.

It would also be nice if he could get book 6 out in less than 7 years.

 

[NAHSTE]

Its not bad as a book, its just not on the level the first 3 books are. The 5th book is only marginally better than the 4th too. Martin needs to step his game up.

Meh, I don't really mind if they aren't "as good" as long as he eventually fucking tells me what happens. At this point he has me by the balls, so I'll keep reading.

I know it's gonna be a slog to get through but as long as book four has at least a couple of nice reveals by the end, I'll be satisfied. I'm as into the back story as I am the current story to be honest. He's created such a rich world that even the seemingly petty gossip starts to get interesting.

A good example of that is in A Clash of Kings, when the Reeds are telling Bran a story. At first I was like, damn, this is a pretty boring chapter, nothing really advancing the plot, just more of Bran sitting around listening to stories ... but then I realized what the story is about, and how important it is to the events of the books.

Not to mention ...

 

what it might imply about present characters, particularly who a certain character's parents might be ...

:shifty:

 

[Atlas]

Meh, I don't really mind if they aren't "as good" as long as he eventually fucking tells me what happens. At this point he has me by the balls, so I'll keep reading.

I know it's gonna be a slog to get through but as long as book four has at least a couple of nice reveals by the end, I'll be satisfied. I'm as into the back story as I am the current story to be honest. He's created such a rich world that even the seemingly petty gossip starts to get interesting.

A good example of that is in A Clash of Kings, when the Reeds are telling Bran a certain story. At first I was like, damn, this is a pretty boring chapter, nothing really advancing the plot ... but then I realized what the story is about, and what it could imply about certain characters in present day ...

 

and that character's parents might be ...

:shifty:

im having a brain fart... please elaborate...

 

[mgoblue2290]

Oh definitely. I honestly need to read through the books again because there is stuff I've forgotten or probably missed the first time. Its been over a year for me. Books 4 and 5 just didn't advance the plot enough for me.

 

[Fappin Raptor]

In March 2012, the author said to have roughly 200 pages completed at that time and expected the book to be finished in two or three years.

- wikipedia

Release years: 1996, 1998, 2000, 2005, 2011, 2014-15(?), and the final book looks like somewhere near 2020. The show will catch up to the books before we know it.

Harry Potter's 7 books were released over 10 years.

 

[mgoblue2290]

The hell does Martin do all day. Write the damn thing. He has to have outlines and stuff. Also, I'll be very surprised if he finishes this series in only 7 books. They'll both have to top 1,000 pages.

 

[Fappin Raptor]

The guy looks like a damn hobbit. I bet he has trouble writing/typing on normal people things being such a small creature.

 

[NAHSTE]

im having a brain fart... please elaborate...

Okay this is going to get super detailed and nerdy, but here goes:

 

The Reeds tell Bran a story about a small mystery knight fighting in a tournament and a wolf princess is there and all that. They kept asking Bran if he was sure his father had never told it to him before, but Bran insisted he had not heard it and wanted to hear the end. They stopped abruptly after the tournament and when Bran asked for the end, they said it was a more sad story.

They were telling him the story of the great tournament in Harrenhall that Rhaegar Targaryen won a year before the war, the one Ned talked about in book one, and the one Arya and Dany are separately told about in book three.

After winning, Rhaegar rode past his wife and gave Lyanna Stark the trophy of beauty, or whatever. A year later, Rhaegar rode off with Lyanna, and Brandon and Rickon Stark went to King's Landing and got murdered by the mad king and started the whole rebellion and all that.

We know based on the timeline that Jon Snow was born around a year after the tournament. At some point in book three, Arya is told by a squire from Dorne that Ned loved two women before marrying Catelyn, and one of them was Jon Snow's mother and the other killed herself.

However, it is possible Ned is not even Jon's father, and Jon is really the son of Lyanna and Rhaeger. There is a dream Ned has in book one that includes a flashback of Lyanna whispering "promise me, Ned" before dying. It's possible he found her with child and lied about Jon being his own bastard to protect the honor of his sister, and to spare the baby from what would happen if Robert found out.

 

[Fappin Raptor]

Okay this is going to get super detailed and nerdy, but here goes:

 

The Reeds tell Bran a story about a small mystery knight fighting in a tournament and a wolf princess is there and all that. They kept asking Bran if he was sure his father had never told it to him before, but Bran insisted he had not heard it and wanted to hear the end. They stopped abruptly after the tournament and when Bran asked for the end, they said it was a more sad story.

They were telling him the story of the great tournament in Harrenhall that Rhaegar Targaeryn won a year before the war, the one Ned talked about in book one, and the one Arya and Dany are separately told about in book three.

After winning, Rhaegar rode past his wife and gave Lyanna Stark the trophy of beauty, or whatever. A year later, Rhaegar rode off with Lyanna and started the rebellion.


We know Jon Snow was born a year after the tournament, mainly because of math but also because Arya is told that Ned loved two women before marrying Catelyn, whom he met at the tourney, and one of them was Jon Snow's mother.

However, there is the possibility that Ned is not even Jon's father, and Jon is really the son of Lyanna and Rhaeger. There is a dream Ned has in book one that includes a flashback of Lyanna whispering "promise me, Ned" before dying. It's possible Ned Stark lied about Jon being his own bastard in order to protect the honor of his sister, and to spare the baby from what would happen if Robert ever found out.

I would have never thought of that, ever. That would change everything.

 

[mgoblue2290]

The hints have been definitely been there. Its pretty obvious that that is the case to me. Just wait til you guys finish the 5th book. There's a crazy sequence that I'm wondering if any of you will pick up on, I didn't at first but it makes so much sense. I actually picked up on what was being hinted at from something else. When you guys finish it, go read my post in spoilers about it on the first page.

 

[BigBucs]

All 5 books for anyone who wants em. Epub version. Use calibre to convert them for you kindle.

http://www.mediafire.com/?n8en99t7mdzmw5m

 

[SethMode]

Or you could buy the books instead of stealing them...

You can get the first 4 in paperback for $21 bucks, why steal?