Aikman: Roy Williams deal could be huge bust

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Troy Aikman said Tuesday that the Dallas Cowboys' trade for Roy Williams could be a huge bust if the wide receiver doesn't produce, according to a report on the Dallas Morning News' website.

"If Roy Williams doesn't turn out to be the player they thought he would be when they made the trade," Aikman said, "I think this would be one of the biggest busts in the history of the league."

The Cowboys gave first-, third- and sixth-round picks in this year's NFL draft to the Lions in exchange for Williams just before last season's October 14 trade deadline. In 10 games with Dallas, Williams caught 19 passes for 198 yards and one touchdown while battling a foot injury.

Williams will start the 2009 season as the Cowboys' No. 1 receiver after the team cut Terrell Owens last month.

When asked to elaborate on the Williams trade, Aikman added, "I just think that when you have the chance to evaluate a player to the degree the Cowboys were able to and then to give up what you gave up, if he's not a No. 1 receiver and not a highly productive player for this team, that's a huge flaw within their scouting department."

Aikman made the comments during a promotional appearance at Wingstop, a restaurant based in the Dallas area that recently signed a sponsorship deal with the Cowboys, according to the Morning News.

Aikman should know about lopsided trades. The Cowboys sent Herschel Walker to the Vikings in 1989 for a bushel of draft picks that helped Dallas build the three Super Bowl-winning teams Aikman quarterbacked in the early 1990s.

Thoughts?

 

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Thoughts?

Wow, and I thought Phil Simms and Tim McCarver were the only people paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to point out the painfully obvious...

 

[Irish]

Yeah it was a bust when they traded all those picks away in the first place.

nobody can live up to all that

 

[Saluki]

It's not really surprising or controversial that he said that. If Williams doesn't put up Pro-Bowl numbers next season he's an ENORMOUS bust. I don't think anyone with any sense would argue otherwise.

 

[calgaryballer]

I'd love to get Troy's take on Sam Bowie over Michael Jordan...

 

[dell71]

Troy Aikman said Tuesday that the Dallas Cowboys' trade for Roy Williams could be a huge bust if the wide receiver doesn't produce,

Naw, really?

 

[ATL Jones Bro]

They gave away a HUGE part of their draft to get him. To me hes a bust him he doesn't get 85+ rec., 1250+ yards, and real in 12-13 TD's. This draft has quite a bit of talent, I think they could have got a good reciever in the draft and traded less of their stock to get a solid reciver like Laveranues Coles or Kevin Walter who are good recivers but really would cost alot less than Williams. Also you don't know what you will get out of Williams and you know you can get a solid season out of alot others for much less.

 

[kmanharris]

God damn it. Don't talk if you don't know what you are talking about. Dallas did NOT give up a huge part of their draft. We traded a 1st, 3rd and 6th for him but if you look at it we only gave up our first rounder. We gave them our FIRST 3rd rounder. Our SECOND 3rd rounder is something like 3 picks (I don't know exactly but it is close to the one we traded). The 6th round pick we traded we got Detroit's 7th round pick which is something like 5 picks away. Dallas has 11 (ELEVEN) picks in the draft this year. Everyone is acting like we gave away our entire draft for him when we still have 11 picks, just no first rounder.

 

[ralaw]

It seems to me he's saying if Williams doesn't produce the trade is a bust...not Roy Wiliams himself. Hasn't Williams already proven himself to be above the bust label from his play in Detroit?

 

[mfbmike]

Naw, really?

This.

 

[ATL Jones Bro]

God damn it. Don't talk if you don't know what you are talking about. Dallas did NOT give up a huge part of their draft. We traded a 1st, 3rd and 6th for him but if you look at it we only gave up our first rounder. We gave them our FIRST 3rd rounder. Our SECOND 3rd rounder is something like 3 picks (I don't know exactly but it is close to the one we traded). The 6th round pick we traded we got Detroit's 7th round pick which is something like 5 picks away. Dallas has 11 (ELEVEN) picks in the draft this year. Everyone is acting like we gave away our entire draft for him when we still have 11 picks, just no first rounder.

Its still a a huge part, you know what they could have gotten with that 1st round pick and 2 3rds rounders? Alot, i still don't think Williams is worth the talent they could have gotten out of the draft. You don't even know what what your going to get out of williams..

 

[kmanharris]

2 first round picks? Dallas never had 2 first round picks.

So let me get this straight. We should have never traded the picks away (when we really just traded our first round pick) to draft a guy in the first round or may or may not be a bust. Instead we got a guy who has produced in the league before and shown he can be a number 1 wide receiver. We could have kept our first round pick and gotten someone with potential, you are right but instead we used our first round pick on a WR who is better than any WR we would have gotten in the draft.

 

[Rayman]

LMAO

A 1 (20th overall) and a 3 with 11 picks still left over is a huge part of our draft now? GTFO

It's hilarious the hate Dallas continues to get. Roy Williams was considered a beast for one of the worst teams in the NFL his first few years and suddenly he goes to Dallas and he sucks. Fans of an 0-16 team are laughing at them. I find it hilarious.

I said it from the moment it went down last year - I expected little from him in '08 due to the transition, Romo's injury, and the fact that TO was on the other side.

Obv, this year, I'm gonna expect a lot more. So far, he's done the right things, working with Romo 4-5 days a week over the last month, basically since his foot healed.

Do I think the price for him was a little steep? Yeah, a bit. But he still has plenty of chance to deliver. He's only 28.

Dallas will still have a solid draft. Jerrah will continue to wheel and deal on draft day (one of the few things he's almost always done right) and we'll end up with some nice young talent just like last year.

 

[ATL Jones Bro]

2 first round picks? Dallas never had 2 first round picks.

So let me get this straight. We should have never traded the picks away (when we really just traded our first round pick) to draft a guy in the first round or may or may not be a bust. Instead we got a guy who has produced in the league before and shown he can be a number 1 wide receiver. We could have kept our first round pick and gotten someone with potential, you are right but instead we used our first round pick on a WR who is better than any WR we would have gotten in the draft.

Misread it.. Its eddited.

Are btw you don''t know if he will be better than any reciver you could have got.. People like Shannon Sharpe, Mark Clayton, and Keenan McCardal were very late picks and all turned out to be great players. I still think its not worth trading that for someone who could be a HUGE bust. Now if he has a great season i applaud you. I was wrong, i just don't think he will do it.

 

[ATL Jones Bro]

LMAO

A 1 (20th overall) and a 3 with 11 picks still left over is a huge part of our draft now? GTFO

It's hilarious the hate Dallas continues to get. Roy Williams was considered a beast for one of the worst teams in the NFL his first few years and suddenly he goes to Dallas and he sucks. Fans of an 0-16 team are laughing at them. I find it hilarious.

I said it from the moment it went down last year - I expected little from him in '08 due to the transition, Romo's injury, and the fact that TO was on the other side.

Obv, this year, I'm gonna expect a lot more. So far, he's done the right things, working with Romo 4-5 days a week over the last month, basically since his foot healed.

Do I think the price for him was a little steep? Yeah, a bit. But he still has plenty of chance to deliver. He's only 28.

Dallas will still have a solid draft. Jerrah will continue to wheel and deal on draft day (one of the few things he's almost always done right) and we'll end up with some nice young talent just like last year.

Yeah thats a big part of your draft. Do you really think Williams will put pro bowl numbers with players like Patrick Crayton and Jason Witten? If you do i hate to break it to you but hes not. Witten is Romo's favorite target but hey, you never know.

 

[Rayman]

Misread it.. Its eddited.

Are btw you don''t know if he will be better than any reciver you could have got.. People like Shannon Sharpe, Mark Clayton, and Keenan McCardal were very late picks and all turned out to be great players. I still think its not worth trading that for someone who could be a HUGE bust. Now if he has a great season i applaud you. I was wrong, i just don't think he will do it.

How often do rookie WRs just come in and put up All Pro numbers?

They usually take time to develop. This team is built to win now, even though they have plenty of young guys who have room for improvement.

 

[kmanharris]

Misread it.. Its eddited.

Are btw you don''t know if he will be better than any reciver you could have got.. People like Shannon Sharpe, Mark Clayton, and Keenan McCardal were very late picks and all turned out to be great players. I still think its not worth trading that for someone who could be a HUGE bust. Now if he has a great season i applaud you. I was wrong, i just don't think he will do it.

Yes, we could draft a player who turns out to be a great player but what are the chances? Instead we got a player who has proven he can play. Using your logic we can pick up a WR in the 5th round + and he can turn out to be a great player. So we didn't really lose any value. We also don't have to pay a huge first rounder contract.

 

[ATL Jones Bro]

I know it takes time to develop, I know they have a good team, but still its not worth trading away draft picks for someone who is really not a stable reciver. He had one breakout season in 06, and from then on he got worse and worse, in 07 840 yrds in 08, 430 yrds. I don't trust putting some of my draft stock on a player who had a breakout year when he had team with no other decent recievers. I dont trust putting a player who is doing worse and worse each year on my team and makign him #1.

 

[Rayman]

Yeah thats a big part of your draft. Do you really think Williams will put pro bowl numbers with players like Patrick Crayton and Jason Witten? If you do i hate to break it to you but hes not. Witten is Romo's favorite target but hey, you never know.

You thinking Crayton is a bigger threat than him tells me you have no clue what you're talking about.

Crayton won't even be the #2 when the season rolls around.

 

[ATL Jones Bro]

Yes, we could draft a player who turns out to be a great player but what are the chances? Instead we got a player who has proven he can play. Using your logic we can pick up a WR in the 5th round + and he can turn out to be a great player. So we didn't really lose any value. We also don't have to pay a huge first rounder contract.

He proved he could play 1 year, then got worse and worse as more talent came to the team. Hes not goign to be an allstar because Dallas has alot of talent already and like i said, i sont trust putting draft stock in a player who is gettign worse each season.