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Anyone here hate when some players NEVER get a try in the NFL?

Hawkins is my favorite one on the whole show. All he does is make plays in the open field on that show, and he seems to have the best make-up of the WRs left. Montrell Jones is kind of stupid and Holley seems a little bitchy at times.

I also like Eddie Moten, the DB. He seems to have good hips in the limited clips we get to see.


Hawkins is my favorite too. Good head on his shoulders and like you said, he always makes plays in the open field. He looks natural on the field. I do believe he is the best receiver on the show and will eventually be the choice. Holley gets a bit high and mighty at times, but dude goes to work and he looks pretty good. Montrell Jones though... I think he might be retarded. I have no clue what Michael Irvin sees in him.

Moten is my favorite DB also, but Moses Washington should have been sent packing weeks ago. Every episode, he's not doing the right thing, he's complaining about something, he's getting burnt, he can't cover... that dude just sucks.
 
Only one I never got was Rohan Davey. He was looking like the next Matt Hasselbeck/Aaron Brooks/Jake Delhomme after his NFL Europe MVP but then he was beaten out by Cassell for the backup role in New England and got bounced to Arizona....where somehow he was cut from a team that had starts from Shaun King and Luke McCown......go figure.

To me, it seemed like Davey's release was even longer than Mike Vick's. And he wasn't that mobile to begin with, so...
 
Screw the big names. I've been watching Fourth and Long and saw some of the guys out there that I'm surprised never made it in the NFL. These two dudes, Andrew Hawkins and Jesse Holley, look like NFL players. Hawkins is definitely a special teams guy and can probably be a good slot receiver. I really like Jesse Holley. At 6'3", he's a solid guy. I'm surprised these guys aren't in.

Hawkins went a HS about half an hour away from mine. I met him at a football camp, very nice guy.

Holley was a guard on the 2005 National Championship UNC team.

Just throwing in some facts about them. ;)
 
Hawkins is my favorite too. Good head on his shoulders and like you said, he always makes plays in the open field. He looks natural on the field. I do believe he is the best receiver on the show and will eventually be the choice. Holley gets a bit high and mighty at times, but dude goes to work and he looks pretty good. Montrell Jones though... I think he might be retarded. I have no clue what Michael Irvin sees in him.

Moten is my favorite DB also, but Moses Washington should have been sent packing weeks ago. Every episode, he's not doing the right thing, he's complaining about something, he's getting burnt, he can't cover... that dude just sucks.

Agreed on all counts. Especially about Moses....dude is a bitch and you can tell nobody likes him. Plus he sucks, so there you go.
 
Hawkins went a HS about half an hour away from mine. I met him at a football camp, very nice guy.

Holley was a guard on the 2005 National Championship UNC team.

Just throwing in some facts about them. ;)

Cool....

Anywho, I think Brian Johnson - especially after that amaaaaazing Sugar Bowl - should've been given a chance at pro stardom. And - not that I wanna make this racial - Rohan Daven might never have been given a shot due to the plight of black quarterbacks in the NFL... Of course, Cassel proved to be very effective last year, but his sucess won't last. I've heard some of the things he's said in KC and, while he doesn't have quite a T.O. air about him, I think he's setting himself up for failure. Outside of Palmer, my beloved USC's QBs are starting to disappoint me when they make it to the pros.

did sign Davey on my current Madden 07 franchise, so there you go... career salvaged... by the Raiders... D'OH! (lol)
 
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Rohan Davey wasn't cut because he was black, he was cut because it took him too long to make the throws and to grasp the Patriots offense. Don't get me wrong, I loved the guy as a back up but he wasn't a Patriots molded guy. Made a solid career for himself in NFL Europe while it lasted, whats he up too now?
 
Cool....

Anywho, I think Brian Johnson - especially after that amaaaaazing Sugar Bowl - should've been given a chance at pro stardom. And - not that I wanna make this racial - Rohan Daven might never have been given a shot due to the plight of black quarterbacks in the NFL... Of course, Cassel proved to be very effective last year, but his sucess won't last. I've heard some of the things he's said in KC and, while he doesn't have quite a T.O. air about him, I think he's setting himself up for failure. Outside of Palmer, my beloved USC's QBs are starting to disappoint me when they make it to the pros.

did sign Davey on my current Madden 07 franchise, so there you go... career salvaged... by the Raiders... D'OH! (lol)

I don't think race is a factor when picking an NFL quarterback anymore.
 
Lol Timmy Chang. He was on the Eagles practice squad. Terrible Quarterback. I wonder what's gonna happen with Tim Tebow. If some team is dumb enough to take him early, then he'll be a sure bust. I think the dude shouldn't even get a shot in the NFL unless you're a team running a wildcat offense. Heck, Chris Leak is probably even better than Tebow.

Timmy Chang? I wondered what happened to him. Is he still with Philly?
 
I don't think race is a factor when picking an NFL quarterback anymore.

I wouldn't say it's a key factor or that every coach/GM/owner looks to make sure he doesn't get a black QB, I'm just saying that there aren't that many right now... and it's not as if there aren't any college QBs producing...

Really, I'm not sure.

And I don't think Rohan Daveny wasn't successful because he was black. That was sort of a joke. In any case, your right, a long throwing motion usually doesn't help. That's been Leftwich's problem.
 
I wouldn't say it's a key factor or that every coach/GM/owner looks to make sure he doesn't get a black QB, I'm just saying that there aren't that many right now... and it's not as if there aren't any college QBs producing...

Really, I'm not sure.

And I don't think Rohan Daveny wasn't successful because he was black. That was sort of a joke. In any case, your right, a long throwing motion usually doesn't help. That's been Leftwich's problem.

Rohan had a decent release but had shitty footwork. His drop back mechanics were apparently at beginner level when he got to the combine. For that, I blame Jimbo Fisher as much as I blame Ro.
 
Rohan had a decent release but had shitty footwork. His drop back mechanics were apparently at beginner level when he got to the combine. For that, I blame Jimbo Fisher as much as I blame Ro.

That makes as much since as anything. It sort of reminds me how my granddad is always talking about how the Titans got rid of Steve McNair (who was supposed to be Vince's mentor) and wonder why Vince hasn't improved. My granddad thinks that if he'd had Steve, he could've improved his mechanics. But it was not to be...
 
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