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[RosettaStoned]

Lol dont try to swing it that way Rob.. you KNOW Hendo had malicious intent there.. and not just the kind of regular malicious intent a fighter has when hes smashing another dudes face in.

He's said since that the fight was nothing personal.

 

[JeremyHight]

its not fake after a fight to be buddy buddy

... did you read my post at all? I'm saying, I'm sick of seeing these guys act like they hate eachother with fake fights during the weigh-ins and talking all this trash, AND THEN after a fight hugging one another.

If they just go into a fight by advertising the fight and saying how it is going to be great and then hugging after the match, that is fine. But don't be all fake about everything leading up and then ride the other guy's cock after the fight.

 

[RosettaStoned]

If Hendo tells me post fight that he KNEW the guy was out, why am I going to assume he actually didnt?

Because he also told you he doesn't hit people after they are out, when he actually does?

You're the one being ridiculous dude. If you can't figure out what he was doing, you're retarded.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

He's said since that the fight was nothing personal.

And? The stigma has worn off by now dude.. he can say anything he wants about it being personal now that its over. If you dont believe he knew Bisping was out then I cant even argue with you anymore. Its beyond retarded. Why admit that he knew if he didnt? To make himself seem like an asshole? He wasnt playing to anything.. he was doing the exact same thing Brock did post-fight, SPEAK HIS MIND. His mind was saying fuck Bisping, and thats why he laid that extra shot and admitted to doing it. More power to him.. im glad he didnt play pussy and say "I respect Michael" post fight when he really doesnt. Him saying its not personal now.. THATS the fraud side.. it was indeed personal and Dan did indeed want to hurt Bisping.

 

[Liquidrob]

Lol dont try to swing it that way Rob.. you KNOW Hendo had malicious intent there.. and not just the kind of regular malicious intent a fighter has when hes smashing another dudes face in.

wand was KO'ed pretty much the same way, wand was flat on his back and dan dropped the hammer on him, it is very hard to go from trying to KO someone to processing the info and thinking about doing it to shut him up for an extra shot

guys like BJ and Babalu with there chokes knew what they were doing, they had time to process it

Dan could have been playing to the crowd, Brock could have also, I really dont care either way

I think the point of the thread was a double standard against Brock because he was a pro wrestler brining in pro wrestling antics and trying to use past pro wrestlers as a reason is strecthing it because those guys had success in MMA before Pro Wrestling

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Because he also told you he doesn't hit people after they are out, when he actually does?

You're the one being ridiculous dude. If you can't figure out what he was doing, you're retarded.

Ok... so basically hes lying by saying "I doesnt usually go after KO'd opponents".. but is also bullshitting when he admits to knowing Bisping was out? Is that not a walking contradiction? If he wanted to play it like he doesnt do that to KO'd opponents he wouldnt go against it now and say "but I did this time". The dude just flat out knew Bisping was out. Whether or not he does that to other opponents is highly irrelevant.. the mere fact that you're trying to use that to favour your argument is laughable. You're beyond retarded if you believe otherwise dude.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Just thought you guys would find this interesting



Main reason Brock Lesnar is the top heel
People hate him because he came from pro wrestling 34.5%
He wants to be hated and has manipulated the audience successfully 21.0%
People hate him because he was pushed from day one, drew from day one, and got an early title shot 11.5%
People hate him because he didn't fail when they thought he would 10.2%
People don't like his personality 9.1%
People discarded his athletic ability, were proven wrong and hated being wrong 7.7%
People hate him because he mocked Heath Herring and Frank Mir after beating them 2.7%
People are mad because they were taught technique beats size and he proved that to be wrong in his case 2.4%
People hate him because he beat Randy Couture 0.4%
People hate him because he's big 0.4%

 

[Steel Mamba]

Perfect example with Kimbo, just imagine if Kimbo did any of the crap Lesnar had done. People would want that guy out of the sport. Given his background he's just not going to have the same leeway as most other guys for that type of stuff, which is frowned upon regardless of who's doing it. Just give it up Lesnar is taking the easy road so he's getting the heat he deserves. Stop making excuses for him.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

wand was KO'ed pretty much the same way, wand was flat on his back and dan dropped the hammer on him, it is very hard to go from trying to KO someone to processing the info and thinking about doing it to shut him up for an extra shot

guys like BJ and Babalu with there chokes knew what they were doing, they had time to process it

Dan could have been playing to the crowd, Brock could have also, I really dont care either way

I think the point of the thread was a double standard against Brock because he was a pro wrestler brining in pro wrestling antics and trying to use past pro wrestlers as a reason is strecthing it because those guys had success in MMA before Pro Wrestling

Rob, if you honestly believe Dan didnt KNOW Bisping was out im really disappointed in you. I know Rosetta likes to say ridiculous shit for the sake of an argument, and I know you hate to admit you're wrong.. but COME ON MOTHER FUCKERS. Neither of you are this stupid.. the dude knew Bisping was out.. the due KNEW he wanted to hit him again.. whether he did the same thing against Wand is a different matter. This time. Dan KNEW what was going on. Hes never been the type to play to the crowd in that kind of fashion, no reason to believe that now. There is however full reason to believe Dan flat out doesnt like Bisping and threw that extra punch in there to SHUT HIM UP, just like he fucking said.

 

[Liquidrob]

... did you read my post at all? I'm saying, I'm sick of seeing these guys act like they hate eachother with fake fights during the weigh-ins and talking all this trash, AND THEN after a fight hugging one another.

If they just go into a fight by advertising the fight and saying how it is going to be great and then hugging after the match, that is fine. But don't be all fake about everything leading up and then ride the other guy's cock after the fight.

every situation is different, some guys create fight hype to sell, some guys create it to have a reason to fight hard and trick themselves, some of it is real hate, some guys create hate and the other guy takes it to heart, etc...

but after you fight a guy, fake anger or not, usually it turns into respect because what you go thru in a fight and it is squashed

 

[RosettaStoned]

And? The stigma has worn off by now dude.. he can say anything he wants about it being personal now that its over. If you dont believe he knew Bisping was out then I cant even argue with you anymore. Its beyond retarded.

Have you ever been in a fighting competition? Any kind? You ever knocked somebody out? In a split second you don't know for sure they are out. It's fucking impossible, not enough time for your brain to process it. You are either ignorant, or stupid. I'm leaning towards ignorant.

Why admit that he knew if he didnt? To make himself seem like an asshole?

Seem like an asshole? The entire crowd was booing the fuck out of Bisping. He seemed like a hero saying that. He knew he would. He knew the crowd didn't like Bisping, and knew saying that would get a cheer.

He wasnt playing to anything.. he was doing the exact same thing Brock did post-fight, SPEAK HIS MIND. His mind was saying fuck Bisping, and thats why he laid that extra shot and admitted to doing it. More power to him.. im glad he didnt play pussy and say "I respect Michael" post fight when he really doesnt. Him saying its not personal now.. THATS the fraud side.. it was indeed personal and Dan did indeed want to hurt Bisping.

Really? He wanted to hurt a guy he was fighting with? Good call genius.

 

[Liquidrob]

Rob, if you honestly believe Dan didnt KNOW Bisping was out im really disappointed in you. I know Rosetta likes to say ridiculous shit for the sake of an argument, and I know you hate to admit you're wrong.. but COME ON MOTHER FUCKERS. Neither of you are this stupid.. the dude knew Bisping was out.. the due KNEW he wanted to hit him again.. whether he did the same thing against Wand is a different matter. This time. Dan KNEW what was going on. Hes never been the type to play to the crowd in that kind of fashion, no reason to believe that now. There is however full reason to believe Dan flat out doesnt like Bisping and threw that extra punch in there to SHUT HIM UP, just like he fucking said.

There really is no way to tell, do I think Dan thought he was out? More than likely, he probably knew Wand was out also, but its s fight, you fight

Do I think less of Dan for it? No, because he fights to the bell and always has and I think he played to the crowd a bit, they just got finished filming a show that pitted them against each other

 

[Liquidrob]

W2B

Do you agree that this was the biggest event in the UFC and got the most mainstream media attetion?

Do you agree that Brock is the most successful Pro Wrestling star to enter MMA?

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Have you ever been in a fighting competition? Any kind? You ever knocked somebody out? In a split second you don't know for sure they are out. It's fucking impossible, not enough time for your brain to process it. You are either ignorant, or stupid. I'm leaning towards ignorant.




Seem like an asshole? The entire crowd was booing the fuck out of Bisping. He seemed like a hero saying that. He knew he would. He knew the crowd didn't like Bisping, and knew saying that would get a cheer.



Really? He wanted to hurt a guy he was fighting with? Good call genius.

Have you? Would you ever admit after the fight that you went for an extra shot on a KO'd opponent if you didnt actually think he was KO'd? Come on, beyond retarded.

Noone was booing Bisping while Dan was being interviewed and Bisping was out cold. There was no reason for Dan to play to the crowd at that point, especially not like that. Dan just flat out dislikes Bisping and wanted to land an extra blow, why is this so hard for you to comprehend? Instead of taking the simple answer you're trying to spin it like he would lie about knowing so he could get a crowd reaction? The crowd was jacked enough as it is.. Dan was just speaking his mind.

Hurt him after he was already KO'd dummy, you know I meant that because I already made a post talking about his malicious intent AFTER the KO. But anything to try to make an argument swing in your favour, right Rosetta?

Im done with this one.. its the same shit over and over and im not even convinced you're serious. Im going to assume you're just arguing to argue at this point.. I know you aint this dumb.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

There really is no way to tell, do I think Dan thought he was out? More than likely, he probably knew Wand was out also, but its s fight, you fight

Do I think less of Dan for it? No, because he fights to the bell and always has and I think he played to the crowd a bit, they just got finished filming a show that pitted them against each other

The way to tell is him admitting it. If this isnt enough for you then I dont know what to tell you. Theres zero reason for Dan to say that after the fight unless he truly meant it. Its a lot easier to believe he was just speaking his mind than it is to believe that Dan was trying to play to the crowd in such retarded fashion.

The hard hard-headiness in the MMA section is unparalleled by any sub-forum on VSN.

 

[Liquidrob]

Lets see if someone who says 'I'm done with this' is actually done with this

 

[JeremyHight]

but after you fight a guy, fake anger or not, usually it turns into respect because what you go thru in a fight and it is squashed

So after a guy completely disrespects you, calls you out, says you will lose, throws everything at you that he can, and etc, you go out there and absolutely DOMINATE the guy and make him wish he was never born. All of a sudden, you are supposed to respect him? For what? All the guy did was run his mouth and not back it up?

If Brock has a fault for his post fight antics, its that he takes things to heart. I'd rather that then the guys who fake being a heel to sell a fight.

 

[Liquidrob]

The way to tell is him admitting it. If this isnt enough for you then I dont know what to tell you. Theres zero reason for Dan to say that after the fight unless he truly meant it. Its a lot easier to believe he was just speaking his mind than it is to believe that Dan was trying to play to the crowd in such retarded fashion.

The hard hard-headiness in the MMA section is unparalleled by any sub-forum on VSN.

Guys say a lot of things, Dan could have had that line ready for days, you dont know, the entire show was about Bisping talking shit to Dan

I dont know why you are getting all emotional, I already said I'm not holding anything against brock, just said I would like to see him show a little more respect after a fight

 

[Liquidrob]

So after a guy completely disrespects you, calls you out, says you will lose, throws everything at you that he can, and etc, you go out there and absolutely DOMINATE the guy and make him wish he was never born. All of a sudden, you are supposed to respect him? For what? All the guy did was run his mouth and not back it up?

If Brock has a fault for his post fight antics, its that he takes things to heart. I'd rather that then the guys who fake being a heel to sell a fight.

So you bought all that hype?

You respect the guy for fighting you, its not a hard concept to understand, all that other shit is just other shit

Respecting someone after a fight goes back to the days on the school yard, talk shit for weeks, name calling, etc...and after the fight you end it, kids can understand that, I think a pro fighter can also undertsand it

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Guys say a lot of things, Dan could have had that line ready for days, you dont know, the entire show was about Bisping talking shit to Dan

I dont know why you are getting all emotional, I already said I'm not holding anything against brock, just said I would like to see him show a little more respect after a fight

Who the fuck cares about Brock? This isnt even about Brock anymore. Its about being dumb enough to believe Dan would admit he knew Bisping was out if he actually didnt. The whole theory is beyond retarded. Theres a million things Dan could've said to play to the crowd or to belittle Bisping other than admitting to doing something like that. The reason he admitted it? BECAUSE HE DID IT.

God.. simple equations seem to be so hard to understand. Lets just through hoops and try to find another answer instead of whats staring you in the face.

And to quote you.. "guys say a lot of things".. how many guys say THAT shit? Come on. If I was making this argument on yours or Rosetta's side id be shunned from the MMA section.