Bengals sign Owens

[Chadman]

This signing would of been the bomb...had it gone down about 3-4 years ago. Still a pretty cheap deal for Mike Brown and makes Cincy's spotlight a tad bit bigger. Bengals are going to need more than a 38-year old compliment to Chad in order to win more this season. Running game isn't dynamic enough and they're defense needs to finish like they started last season.

wtf

 

[Rudi]

^Yeah he's lucky I didn't go in about calling our running game not dynamic. :smh:

 

[Tailback U]

Never said we didn't have a good D.

I'll state again, Baltimore and Cleveland have the 2 of the worst Corner back groups in the NFL.

I'm a Ravens fan and I know that we have one of the worst corner back tandems in the nfl.

Our best corner is Ladarius Webb, who we drafted last year and was injured right after week 7 or so and lost for the season.

Once again, I said one of the best defensive divisions in football. The Bengals, Steelers, and Ravens all have very good defenses. I don't care if you have 2 lousy cornerbacks, because just like you said, your front 7 makes up for them.

So, as I was saying, Chad Johnson had a pretty good year considering some of the best defenses are in his division and he was the only serious receiving threat on his team.

 

[ram29jackson]

the bengals won their division last year.

and you knew they werent getting any further after that.
they may do well, but they wont be in the running for the ultimate prize, ie a serious contender. thats why I say -bottom row.

they'll have interesting moments, but it wont matter in the long run.

 

[Tailback U]

and you knew they werent getting any further after that.
they may do well, but they wont be in the running for the ultimate prize, ie a serious contender. thats why I say -bottom row.

they'll have interesting moments, but it wont matter in the long run.

That's what tons of guys here, who are much smarter than you I might add, said about the Saints last season.

Obviously, the Bengals will go as far as Palmer and their D can take them.

Ochocinco, Bryant, Owens, Shipley, Caldwell, Gresham > Ochocinco, Henry, Coles, Caldwell, and their 3rd or 4th string TE last year.

There is no denying that on paper, the Bengals are much better offensively. How that pans out on the field depends on Palmer.

 

[BigBucs]

What's the difference?

Stats are stats. It's hard to move the ball on that defense, obviously.

But stats arent the be all and tell all. A lot of CBs take a lot of heat and get a lot of praise based on their stats when they are swayed by how their front 7, mainly the front 4, performs. All the homerism aside for Aquib Talib to perform the way he did last season with out POS defensive line shows me he is the real deal. If he gets a half decent pass rush this year he will make the pro bowl. He is definitely better than Rodgers-Cromartie.

 

[Fox1994]

That's what tons of guys here, who are much smarter than you I might add, said about the Saints last season.

Obviously, the Bengals will go as far as Palmer and their D can take them.

Ochocinco, Bryant, Owens, Shipley, Caldwell, Gresham > Ochocinco, Henry, Coles, Caldwell, and their 3rd or 4th string TE last year.

There is no denying that on paper, the Bengals are much better offensively. How that pans out on the field depends on Palmer.

Hmph. This sums up everything I intended to say.

 

[Tailback U]

But stats arent the be all and tell all. A lot of CBs take a lot of heat and get a lot of praise based on their stats when they are swayed by how their front 7, mainly the front 4, performs. All the homerism aside for Aquib Talib to perform the way he did last season with out POS defensive line shows me he is the real deal. If he gets a half decent pass rush this year he will make the pro bowl. He is definitely better than Rodgers-Cromartie.

It doesn't matter if you have two mentally retarded handicapped midgets playing corner. If your defense is ranked at the top of the league in every single category then you have a good defense. This debate started because I said the Bengals play in one of the toughest defensive divisions in football. The Bengals, Steelers, and Ravens ranked in the top 10 in nearly every defensive category last season.

I know the Ravens corners aren't that good, but it doesn't matter, because their front 7 is that good. Not to mention they have Ed Reed back there (when he's healthy).

The Ravens are tough to pass the ball against, period. End of discussion.

 

[Bmore]

It doesn't matter if you have to mentally retarded handicapped midgets playing corner. If your defense is ranked at the top of the league in every single category then you have a good defense. This debate started because I said the Bengals play in one of the toughest defensive divisions in football. The Bengals, Steelers, and Ravens ranked in the top 10 in nearly every defensive category last season.

I know the Ravens corners aren't that good, but it doesn't matter, because their front 7 is that good. Not to mention they have Ed Reed back there (when he's healthy).

The Ravens are tough to pass the ball against, period. End of discussion.

Tell that to Phillip Rivers who almost threw for 500 yds on us last year.

I see what your saying though.

 

[ram29jackson]

That's what tons of guys here, who are much smarter than you I might add, said about the Saints last season.

Obviously, the Bengals will go as far as Palmer and their D can take them.

Ochocinco, Bryant, Owens, Shipley, Caldwell, Gresham > Ochocinco, Henry, Coles, Caldwell, and their 3rd or 4th string TE last year.

There is no denying that on paper, the Bengals are much better offensively. How that pans out on the field depends on Palmer.

In the past, the Bengals have been a very quality organization with 2 SB appearances. And they may be getting back on that track.
But i'll make that my first anti-prediction.
The Bengals will not make it to the Superbowl this year.

 

[Chadman]

In the past, the Bengals have been a very quality organization with 2 SB appearances. And they may be getting back on that track.
But i'll make that my first anti-prediction.
The Bengals will not make it to the Superbowl this year.

lol

 

[FirstTimer]

In the past, the Bengals have been a very quality organization with 2 SB appearances. And they may be getting back on that track.
But i'll make that my first anti-prediction.
The Bengals will not make it to the Superbowl this year.

They have 13 winning seasons in 42 seasons of football...

 

[Fox1994]

They have 13 winning seasons in 42 seasons of football...

Ya, but I think he's referring to some of their competitiveness in the 80s and early nineties with Boomer.

 

[FirstTimer]

Ya, but I think he's referring to some of their competitiveness in the 80s and early nineties with Boomer.

They had a .532 winning percentage in the 80's. *Yawn*

They averaged right around an 8-7 season in the 80's.(82 and 87 were strike shortened seasons so that's why the numbers averages out to less than 16 games a year)

 

[Fox1994]

They had a .532 winning percentage in the 80's. *Yawn*

They averaged right around an 8-7 season in the 80's.(82 and 87 were strike shortened seasons so that's why the numbers averages out to less than 16 games a year)

oops:

Good point.

 

[ram29jackson]

They have 13 winning seasons in 42 seasons of football...

and the majority of those 13 have been over the last 27 years.
obviously the Wyche years were the best. But you don't get to a Superbowl twice without being better than decent for a longer than short term, time period.

and more importantly to Cincy, they've had more success than Cleveland over the last 40 years haha

 

[FirstTimer]

and the majority of those 13 have been over the last 27 years.
obviously the Wyche years were the best. But you don't get to a Superbowl twice without being better than decent for a longer than short term, time period.

and more importantly to Cincy, they've had more success than Cleveland over the last 40 years haha

Incorrect. In the last 27 years the Bengals have 6 winning seasons. 6 =/= to >50% than 13. They had more winning seasons from 68-81(7) than they have had from 82-Present(6).

 

[ram29jackson]

Incorrect. In the last 27 years the Bengals have 6 winning seasons. 6 =/= to >50% than 13. They had more winning seasons from 68-81(7) than they have had from 82-Present(6).

oh, really, who cares? you are quite the obsessive loser.

here's the deal buckwheat, I dont give a flying fuck about the ultimate true winning percentage they've had, whether I'm 30 or 50 % off or what ever.

2 Super Bowls means you know how to nurture a winning philosophy at some point. They've been 1 step away from ultimate success ,twice. Therefore, they have been a quality franchise in the past and may well get there again.
But it wont happen this year.

 

[BigBucs]

It doesn't matter if you have two mentally retarded handicapped midgets playing corner. If your defense is ranked at the top of the league in every single category then you have a good defense. This debate started because I said the Bengals play in one of the toughest defensive divisions in football. The Bengals, Steelers, and Ravens ranked in the top 10 in nearly every defensive category last season.

I know the Ravens corners aren't that good, but it doesn't matter, because their front 7 is that good. Not to mention they have Ed Reed back there (when he's healthy).

The Ravens are tough to pass the ball against, period. End of discussion.

WTF is this? A Jedi mindtrick? Isnt this what I have been saying all along. You just went 180 on my ass like I wear a helmet. :yell: Then he adds

The Ravens are tough to pass the ball against, period. End of discussion.

as if that gave his post some kind of credence.:lolwut:

 

[Fox1994]

WTF is this? A Jedi mindtrick? Isnt this what I have been saying all along. You just went 180 on my ass like I wear a helmet. :yell: Then he adds



as if that gave his post some kind of credence.:lolwut:

Well, that's his point. That's how it gives his post credence. He wasn't debating that the Ravens have stupendous corners, he was stating that they're difficult to pass on. That was all he said.