Big Ten - Texas?

[longhornfan]

Having Tech in the Big 10 would be a disgrace, their academics are horrible.

A&M and Texas makes sense though.

 

[strahanfan92]

Fucking Notre Dame should be in there, fucking pussies.

 

[Fox1994]

Definitely. Almost every team they play in their "Independent" schedule is a rival... Two of which are in the Pac-10 (SC, Stanford) two are Independent (Navy, Army)... The rest of them are in the Big Ten right? (Purdue, Michigan, Michigan State... Am I missing anyone?)

 

[Fox1994]

It's not You People. It's just me...

Then I guess it can't pass through period. Because it's my understanding that Texas legislature is gonna want all three to go...

 

[NAHSTE]

This has nothing to do with money and everything to do with academics, as strangely as that sounds. Texas has been trying for years to get into a conference with a better academic standing than the Big XII.

The Big Ten demolishes most conferences in the US for academic prestige and Texas is desperate to be noted in the same regard.

They are noted in that regard, they are considered a "Public Ivy". I get what the Big Ten is academically, but this seems to make no sense from that standpoint, as Texas already has some of the highest admission standards and academic rankings among public schools as is.

Was the Big XII really bogging them down that bad? Geographically this makes no sense whatsoever, and Texas is already considered on par with Michigan academically.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_Ivy

 

[jHammack]

Definitely. Almost every team they play in their "Independent" schedule is a rival... Two of which are in the Pac-10 (SC, Stanford) two are Independent (Navy, Army)... The rest of them are in the Big Ten right? (Purdue, Michigan, Michigan State... Am I missing anyone?)

No they always play Pitt and another Big East school. This year was UConn.

 

[BUCK3YE5]

Fucking Notre Dame should be in there, fucking pussies.

truedat

 

[Sportsbuck]

I just want to say that the B10 is not a 3 yards and a cloud of dust league anymore (From Cowherd's comments).

Let's take a look at the basic offensive system run by each team:

Illinois: spread option
Indiana: pistol
Michigan: spread option
Minnesota: Pro style/spread mix
Penn State: Spread/pro-style mix
Northwestern: Spread option
Purdue: Spread
Michigan State: Pro-style/power run
Iowa: Pro-style/power run
Wisconsin: Pro-style/power run
Ohio State: Undecided

If Texas did come to the Big Ten... I'd love it. A bit of a friendly rivalry has formed between OSU and Texas over the years after the epic Fiesta Bowl last year, us beating up on a freshman Colt McCoy in 06, and the Vince Young show in Columbus in 05. I have a ton of respect for Mack Brown, as well.

 

[nesper]

They are noted in that regard, they are considered a "Public Ivy". I get what the Big Ten is academically, but this seems to make no sense from that standpoint, as Texas already has some of the highest admission standards and academic rankings among public schools as is.

Was the Big XII really bogging them down that bad? Geographically this makes no sense whatsoever, and Texas is already considered on par with Michigan academically.

Public Ivy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

i dont think it will happen but from texas standpoint they would get to say they are part of the premier athletic and academic conference in the country.

 

[nesper]

The potential entry of Texas into the Big Ten would include membership in the CIC, which opens up a whole new level of academic research opportunities for the school that simply doesn’t exist in the Big 12.

The Big Ten Expansion Index: A Different Shade of Orange FRANK THE TANK’S SLANT

Headquartered in the Midwest, the Committee on Institutional Cooperation (CIC) is a consortium of the Big Ten universities plus the University of Chicago. For half a century, these 12 world-class research institutions have advanced their academic missions, generated unique opportunities for students and faculty, and served the common good by sharing expertise, leveraging campus resources, and collaborating on innovative programs. Governed and funded by the Provosts of the member universities, CIC mandates are coordinated by a staff from its Champaign, Illinois headquarters.

 

[NAHSTE]

i dont think it will happen but from texas standpoint they would get to say they are part of the premier athletic and academic conference in the country.

LOLWUT

 

[Hasselbeck]

If they're targeting Texas something tells me the Big 11 wants to form a "super-conference".. they're not stopping at 12 teams folks.. I think they are eyeing 16. Pitt, Mizzou and Syracuse to pair with Texas would fulfill the academic and athletic thing would it not?

I'm not sure what kind of school Pitt is academically but I know Texas, Mizzou and Syracuse are all very respectable universities.

 

[Fox1994]

6 game vs. opponent they play every year (Purdue, Michigan, Michigan St., USC, Stanford, Navy) 3 home, 3 away
1 neutral site game (Army)
2 series with Pitt + Boston College 1 home 1 away
3 home one and done games (Utah, Western Michigan, Tulsa)

Thats how the schedule is figured.

BC, that's the rival I forgot.

 

[JeremyHight]

They are noted in that regard, they are considered a "Public Ivy". I get what the Big Ten is academically, but this seems to make no sense from that standpoint, as Texas already has some of the highest admission standards and academic rankings among public schools as is.

Was the Big XII really bogging them down that bad? Geographically this makes no sense whatsoever, and Texas is already considered on par with Michigan academically.

Public Ivy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In terms of "Public Ivy" rankings, the Big XII has two schools in it, Colorado and Texas. In comparison, the Big Ten has 9, with one of the exceptions being Northwestern, which is one of the top universities in the country, but isn't public.

Again, the Big Ten is among the most prestigious academic conferences in the nation.

 

[NAHSTE]

In terms of "Public Ivy" rankings, the Big XII has two schools in it, Colorado and Texas. In comparison, the Big Ten has 9, with one of the exceptions being Northwestern, which is one of the top universities in the country, but isn't public.

Again, the Big Ten is among the most prestigious academic conferences in the nation.

When did I say otherwise? Obviously the Big Ten is a prestigious academic conference, but Texas is already a better university than all but maybe Michigan. What would they have to gain when they're already an elite university academically?

If there's proof that this is their intention, I won't question it, but I will still think it's a dumb reason. They are already one of the nation's 4 or 5 best public universities.

edit- looked into some rankings, and Illinois and Wisconsin are above Texas as well, but it's still a curious reason to switch from a conference that you were a founder of to one that is headquartered 1000 miles away.

 

[JeremyHight]

When did I say otherwise? Obviously the Big Ten is a prestigious academic conference, but Texas is already a better university than all but maybe Michigan. What would they have to gain when they're already an elite university academically?

If there's proof that this is their intention, I won't question it, but I will still think it's a dumb reason. They are already one of the nation's 4 or 5 best public universities.

If Texas joined the Big Ten, they'd arguably be the 6th best in terms of academics in the conference. Michigan, Illinois, Wisconsin, Northwestern, and Penn State are all better according to some rankings.

 

[nesper]

If they're targeting Texas something tells me the Big 11 wants to form a "super-conference".. they're not stopping at 12 teams folks.. I think they are eyeing 16. Pitt, Mizzou and Syracuse to pair with Texas would fulfill the academic and athletic thing would it not?

I'm not sure what kind of school Pitt is academically but I know Texas, Mizzou and Syracuse are all very respectable universities.

16 would just be too big. I think 14 is the goal. people around the conference already bag on the team that would be obligated to go to the little ceasers bowl with 16 your going to venture into the area of 9/10 bowl eligible in football and a consistent 8+ in basketball. After typing it out the money that would roll in plus the markets for the network maybe they are that crazy. Which begs the question if they had a deal to go to 16 that 16th team would have to be notre dame there we be no way they could turn that down.

I'd go out on a limb here but any further expansion without notre dame is a failure. its meant to be. notre dame needs to see its probably best for them and the big ten should probably be willing to sell its soul for them.

 

[Mogriffjr]

anyway they can get Pitt/Texas (whoever to make that Texas connection...TAMU?)

Because I c what u tryin to do thar Big 10.

 

[jHammack]

If they're targeting Texas something tells me the Big 11 wants to form a "super-conference".. they're not stopping at 12 teams folks.. I think they are eyeing 16. Pitt, Mizzou and Syracuse to pair with Texas would fulfill the academic and athletic thing would it not?

I'm not sure what kind of school Pitt is academically but I know Texas, Mizzou and Syracuse are all very respectable universities.

Pitt meets all of the academic requirements that would be needed to join the Big 10. Pitty had all the stats about the academics in the last thread, but they're a pretty good academic school.

 

[nesper]

LOLWUT

Big Ten has 238 NCAA recognized national champions you can even minus 28 for hockey and that puts them at 210.

The SEC has 168 and you can even add 2 for the ones arkansas had to vacate.
math isnt hard 210>168.