BUSTastic! JaMarcus Russell Benched

[Bear Pand]

No one in their right mind would give up a day one draft pick for Russell.

The Raiders woul....oh nevermind he plays for them.

The most amazing thing to me is that his college coach Nick Saban was telling recruits like Pat White that Russell was terrible, yet somehow Russell conned NFL scouts into thinking he was good. I wonder how high he would've went had the Raiders not drafted him?

 

[Cryolemon]

Ki-Jana Carter?

Are you the same ron burgandy that posts on this board?

 

[Tailback U]

I think The Raiders have like 100 million tied up in Huff, Russell, McFadden, and Heyward-Bey. lol..

I mean, how can the Raiders not draft a QB this year? Isn't this year's class considered "qb heavy" with Bradford, McCoy, Tebow, whoever else? Though I'm not sold on McCoy or Tebow at all, they'd be light years better than what we have now.

Good move by Cable, especially since he's probably gonna get canned once the season is over. I'd bet good money that he doesn't like Russell at all.

 

[Cryolemon]

I'm not sure Tebow will even play QB in the NFL. I think someone may try to turn him into an RB.

 

[FirstTimer]

What are you doing in Iowa FT? You should hook up with RosettaStoned's ex-meth whore wife. And why don't you post in the Locker Room/[SoapBox] anymore? Yes it's a worthless waste of time, but it's well worth that worthless waste of time.

I've lived in Iowa for about a year now. Living with the fiancee.

As far as his ex wife goes I just hope my marriage to her goes better than Rosetta's.

Honestly, I'd post here more but VSN is blocked at my office and the powers that be here have refused to get a workaround domain for the issue that works.

 

[Derrville]

Didn't want Russell looking over his shoulder, I'm sure...of course, he's had to anyway to see all the defensive players running the ball the other way.

How can someone so inaccurate have started this long at QB in the league?

Either way im sure Jeff Garcia is sitting at home loling at the Raiders.

 

[NAHSTE]

I remember at MM when BBIB accused me of being a racist because I reported a scout saying Russell was lazy....and he really wasn't that good at LSU...and would have trouble adjusting to the pro game because of the watered down attack he used at LSU.

LOL, I was almost as bad. I remember arguing you for pages in that Sugar Bowl thread. I still say his stock was high the whole year, simply because I was tracking it and he made a jump to top ten around midseason.

I was definitely way wrong about him so far, it looks like he sucks. From what I've heard about the guy, I wouldn't be surprised if substance abuse is playing a huge part in both his weight and his lack of work ethic. He doesn't smoke bud from what I hear, but he heavily fucks with another purple-tinted depressant prevalently abused in the TX/LA area.

 

[Raidersabc123]

The Raiders woul....oh nevermind he plays for them.

The most amazing thing to me is that his college coach Nick Saban was telling recruits like Pat White that Russell was terrible, yet somehow Russell conned NFL scouts into thinking he was good. I wonder how high he would've went had the Raiders not drafted him?

He wouldn't have fell out of the top five

 

[FirstTimer]

He wouldn't have fell out of the top five

People were saying the same thing about Quinn....

 

[FirstTimer]

LOL, I was almost as bad. I remember arguing you for pages in that Sugar Bowl thread. I still say his stock was high the whole year, simply because I was tracking it and he made a jump to top ten around midseason.

I was definitely way wrong about him so far, it looks like he sucks. From what I've heard about the guy, I wouldn't be surprised if substance abuse is playing a huge part in both his weight and his lack of work ethic. He doesn't smoke bud from what I hear, but he heavily fucks with another purple-tinted depressant prevalently abused in the TX/LA area.

What's odd is if you go back and look at draft information and projections from before the year Russel was like a 3rd-4th Round guy. He stayed that way a majority of the season....then LSU started taking the ball out of his hand, running the ball 35-40 times a game, only throwing it 25 times or so a game and started winning.. Russel then somehow became "good" all of a sudden to people..even though LSU's strategy and own scouting told them the opposite.

Then the Sugar Bowl all of a sudden turned into Quinn vs Russel for the top pick in the draft/top Qb taken..how the hell that happened I have no idea. It seemed like noone paid attention to LSU until they were winning and assumed this huge freak of a player with a cannon arm was the difference when it wasn't. He goes on and plays an unimpressive Sugar Bowl against an overmatched defense and all of a sudden he's the top pick?

I'd still love to sit down with a scout and ask them what Russell was showing at the end of the year that made him a Top 10 pick compared to what he was showing prior to the season/in the early season when he was being projected at somewhere around the 3rd-4th round.

 

[Tailback U]

And Gradkowski gives the Raiders a win today over the Bengals.

Perfect. Hopefully we'll never see JaMarcus Russell again.

 

[NAHSTE]

Best Kanye beat?

Best Kanye beat?

What's odd is if you go back and look at draft information and projections from before the year Russel was like a 3rd-4th Round guy. He stayed that way a majority of the season....then LSU started taking the ball out of his hand, running the ball 35-40 times a game, only throwing it 25 times or so a game and started winning.. Russel then somehow became "good" all of a sudden to people..even though LSU's strategy and own scouting told them the opposite.

Then the Sugar Bowl all of a sudden turned into Quinn vs Russel for the top pick in the draft/top Qb taken..how the hell that happened I have no idea. It seemed like noone paid attention to LSU until they were winning and assumed this huge freak of a player with a cannon arm was the difference when it wasn't. He goes on and plays an unimpressive Sugar Bowl against an overmatched defense and all of a sudden he's the top pick?

I'd still love to sit down with a scout and ask them what Russell was showing at the end of the year that made him a Top 10 pick compared to what he was showing prior to the season/in the early season when he was being projected at somewhere around the 3rd-4th round.

Not sure if I'd say nobody paid attention, we lost both of our games on nat'l TV that year. And I also think JaMarcus was a guaranteed first rounder based on arm strength alone. And he did finish 3rd in the NCAA in passer rating, so it's not like nobody had heard of him.

He actually shouldered the offense several times throughout his career. I've never seen a better 2 minute QB. He seemed like he was only good when we were in a huge hole though. Usually a hole he got us in.

But he could work some magic in the no huddle. This was before he ballooned to 290 and joined a moribund offense.

 

[FirstTimer]

He actually shouldered the offense several times throughout his career.

The thing is though when he shoulded the offense his junior year he usually didn't perform that well.

He seemed like he was only good when we were in a huge hole though. Usually a hole he got us in.

Kind of the point I was making...and that helps him rack up easy completion and stats that lead to a QB being 3rd in the nation in passer rating..when he really isn't that good of a passer.

But he could work some magic in the no huddle.

Agreed but IMO it's because he was facing more vanilla coverages and facing a lot of prevent/soft coverages in those situations more than it was Russell making tight accurate throws.

 

[NAHSTE]

The thing is though when he shoulded the offense his junior year he usually didn't perform that well.


Kind of the point I was making...and that helps him rack up easy completion and stats that lead to a QB being 3rd in the nation in passer rating..when he really isn't that good of a passer.


Agreed but IMO it's because he was facing more vanilla coverages and facing a lot of prevent/soft coverages in those situations more than it was Russell making tight accurate throws.

Multi quotes? JaMarcus v. Quinn debates? Is this MM? And yeah, you're right, those situations are usually base level athleticism. Whenever there was no time for coaching, and he could just fly by the seat of his pants, he'd thrive. When you asked him to sit in a room and dissect coverages for hours, he'd likely shy away. He was always a moment guy, and you can't just show up and turn it on like that in the NFL.

I was wrong about him for sure. But he led game winning 4th quarter drives in Knoxville and Tuscaloosa in his career, and led a winning drive vs. Ole Miss in his last home game.

 

[GoChargers]

Anyone else notice this - With 33 seconds left in the game just before Oakland's kickoff when scores were locked at 17-17.. The camera cut to Russell and Gradkowski reading off the clip board, Russell was listening to his ipod and bouncing his head up and down to the music. Pretty funny - probably wasn't paying any attention.