buyin forza 3? better have a HDD

[Maynard]

if my hdd is clean it will only have 12.8 gigs of free space. The rest is taken up by MS and their BS....so thats almost have of the space of the hdd being used by MS.....call it what you want, its still BS

 

[leaffan]

if my hdd is clean it will only have 12.8 gigs of free space. The rest is taken up by MS and their BS....so thats almost have of the space of the hdd being used by MS.....call it what you want, its still BS

lol go and delete some more. That stupid little movie they have for example is like 2 gigs on its own.

Its still not bs lmao. Its called how technology works. Not my problem you don't have a clue what your talking about.

 

[dave]

I have the 20-gig HD.

I have been waiting for the rumoured 1-terabyte drive they're going to release, instead of buying the 120-gig.

Right now, the only game I have installed is Tiger 10, but I could easily uninstall it and play it off the disc, if need be.

 

[Twigg4075]

MS doesn't steal anything.

If I remember there is like 5 gigs total you simply won't be able to use. Of that only 2 or 3 gigs have actual microsoft stuff on it. The 2 gigs is simply the way hard drives work.

if my hdd is clean it will only have 12.8 gigs of free space. The rest is taken up by MS and their BS....so thats almost have of the space of the hdd being used by MS.....call it what you want, its still BS

lol go and delete some more. That stupid little movie they have for example is like 2 gigs on its own.

Its still not bs lmao. Its called how technology works. Not my problem you don't have a clue what your talking about.

You're wrong Leaf. Maynard is only slightly wrong. If you delete all of the nonsense on the HDD the most space you can possibly have is 13.1 GB. That's bullshit. That's what, 56% of the advertised space? I know all hard drives use up some space for certain shit but when 35% of it is unusable that is complete bullshit. Did you know that the same thing happens with their bullshit memory cards? I bought one of their old I think it was a 52MB card because that was all they had at the time. I bought it to try to transfer some saves that were clogging up my HDD becuase I was running out of space on my measly 13GB drive and was trying to transfer some saves to my wife's 360. Not only would some saves not copy but I discovered that the memory card only had like 36MB of actual space. WTF?!? Why does any space need to be used on a fucking memory card?!?
The bottom line is that MS's proprietart peripherals are 1)bullshit and 2)WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYY overpriced. Everyone in the gaming media still talks about how ridiculous the HDD and wireless adapter (a feature that is built in to the Wii and PS3) is grossly overpriced.

I have the 20-gig HD.

I have been waiting for the rumoured 1-terabyte drive they're going to release, instead of buying the 120-gig.

Right now, the only game I have installed is Tiger 10, but I could easily uninstall it and play it off the disc, if need be.

The rumor is of a 500 GB drive and knowing M$ it will cost at least $250. There is also a rumor of a new Wireless-N adapter which will probably take place of the current adapter and still cost $100. Bank on it.

 

[Bomberooski]

Cant wait for this game, even though I was kinda underwhelmed by the demo. Forza night returns!

Completely agree!

 

[Maynard]

lol go and delete some more. That stupid little movie they have for example is like 2 gigs on its own.

Its still not bs lmao. Its called how technology works. Not my problem you don't have a clue what your talking about.

If i goto the store and buy a 300 gb hard drive for my PC how many gigs of space do i have...huh mr wizard?

exactly genius.

MS advertises a 20, and 120 gig hdd. But they dont tell you they are talking 1/3 of the 20 gig drive for there BS. Its not my fault you dont know what your talking about

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

if my hdd is clean it will only have 12.8 gigs of free space. The rest is taken up by MS and their BS....so thats almost have of the space of the hdd being used by MS.....call it what you want, its still BS

just got buy a big hard drive and install it yourself ... wait .... no....

spend 150 bucks on a 120GB hard drive :jonesy:

 

[leaffan]

If i goto the store and buy a 300 gb hard drive for my PC how many gigs of space do i have...huh mr wizard?

exactly genius.

MS advertises a 20, and 120 gig hdd. But they dont tell you they are talking 1/3 of the 20 gig drive for there BS. Its not my fault you dont know what your talking about

Well 320GB drives generally will give you around 297GBs.

My 250 currently shows 232 available.

My 1TB has 931GB available.

You guys are fuckin idiots. Seriously.

 

[Prodigal Son]

lol, you guys are fucking idiots if you think that MS is the reason why your HD isn't the exact space shown on the box.

 

[Maynard]

Well 320GB drives generally will give you around 297GBs.

My 250 currently shows 232 available.

My 1TB has 931GB available.

You guys are fuckin idiots. Seriously.

discussing anything with you is like trying to reason with a wall. i feel like im talking to a guy who looks like this :lulz:

my 300 has 300, my 200 has 200...maybe you should format the drive and then get back to me. If your gonna post BS to validate your point then at least make it believable. If you bought a new 1 tb drive and it doesnt have 1 tb available then you clearly added somthing to it. or failed to mention that its a master drive

and for the other 2 retards who chimed in with their worthless opinions, its not about adding a OS to your hd, its about MS marketing the dam thing with a certain amount of space only to then find out thats not really as it seems. Read the fucking thread next time

 

[leaffan]

discussing anything with you is like trying to reason with a wall. i feel like im talking to a guy who looks like this :lulz:

my 300 has 300, my 200 has 200...maybe you should format the drive and then get back to me. If your gonna post BS to validate your point then at least make it believable. If you bought a new 1 tb drive and it doesnt have 1 tb available then you clearly added somthing to it. or failed to mention that its a master drive

and for the other 2 retards who chimed in with their worthless opinions, its not about adding a OS to your hd, its about MS marketing the dam thing with a certain amount of space only to then find out thats not really as it seems. Read the fucking thread next time

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Did he seriously just say that?

hahahahahahha.

 

[Virix]

Hard drive manufactures call 1000 kilobytes 1 mb, and 1000 mb 1gb. This is wrong. It is actually 1024 kilobytes that equal 1mb, and 1024mb that equal 1 gb.

Its easy to see how the scale is thrown all out of wack at large sizes. Your 250 gb hard drive is NOT truely 250gb EVER because the scale is all fucked up from the bottom up.

It is not just Microsoft doing this, in fact im sure the HDDs are coming from different manufacturer. That said, you should have more than 13gb free if you delete all the bullshit MS puts on the 20gb drive, but you will never actually have 20gb. Even with nothing on the drive.

 

[mfbmike]

Hard drive manufactures call 1000 kilobytes 1 mb, and 1000 mb 1gb. This is wrong. It is actually 1024 kilobytes that equal 1mb, and 1024mb that equal 1 gb.

Its easy to see how the scale is thrown all out of wack at large sizes. Your 250 gb hard drive is NOT truely 250gb EVER because the scale is all fucked up from the bottom up.

This. You always get less space than advertised when purchasing a HD.

 

[PP]

Maynard.. u fail bigtime

 

[Twigg4075]

Hard drive manufactures call 1000 kilobytes 1 mb, and 1000 mb 1gb. This is wrong. It is actually 1024 kilobytes that equal 1mb, and 1024mb that equal 1 gb.

Its easy to see how the scale is thrown all out of wack at large sizes. Your 250 gb hard drive is NOT truely 250gb EVER because the scale is all fucked up from the bottom up.

It is not just Microsoft doing this, in fact im sure the HDDs are coming from different manufacturer. That said, you should have more than 13gb free if you delete all the bullshit MS puts on the 20gb drive, but you will never actually have 20gb. Even with nothing on the drive.

I'm with you on this. I'm not in the exact boat as Maynard but I definitely agree with his frustrations.

My Main pointt are not that you actually get less tan what is "advertised", it;s the percentage. It's one thing if you're losing 20GB on a 320GB drive, but when you lose 7BG on a 20GB that's just craziness. And can someone give me the explanation of why we get fucked with the memory card space too?

My other point is that MS's proprietary peripherals are egregiously overpriced. It's one thing to not give us options, like the PS3 does with it's hard drives, headsets, etc, but to completely fuck us in the ass with the prices is a joke.

 

[leaffan]

I'm with you on this. I'm not in the exact boat as Maynard but I definitely agree with his frustrations.

My Main pointt are not that you actually get less tan what is "advertised", it;s the percentage. It's one thing if you're losing 20GB on a 320GB drive, but when you lose 7BG on a 20GB that's just craziness. And can someone give me the explanation of why we get fucked with the memory card space too?

My other point is that MS's proprietary peripherals are egregiously overpriced. It's one thing to not give us options, like the PS3 does with it's hard drives, headsets, etc, but to completely fuck us in the ass with the prices is a joke.

DRM protection, caching ect ect is what is on the hard drives. This is needed for when you go on live because it needs a place to store all this data. Without the hard drive alloting these area's you would get people filling their drives up with demos and such and you'd run out of room for caching. You'd then see performance in games taking a huge hit. Think Oblivion for example. The draw distances in that game are a great example of when a hard drive is really handy. If there was no space for it though the game would run like shit.

The memory card thing though kinda has me baffled. I've only ever seen it once and it was a friend of mine who had the 64meg one. It showed all 64megs so I dunno whats wrong with yours.

The whole peripherals being overpriced thing is some what MS's fault. On one hand they designed it that way so they could bring in more money being as there is no 3rd party to take sales. With this though production costs start to go up because things like wireless adapters and memory cards even are fairly low selling. The wireless adapter for example had to have software built into it for it work since I don't think the xbox itself has the wireless stuff.

I don't understand why some of you guys keep constantly bitching about this stuff. I can keep throwing answers out and you won't be statisfied. The whole "well we were advertised we get this much" cliche is getting so old. Almost every body should understand how things like hard drives work. I'm pretty sure it tells you how much you actually get in the fine print. I know retail PC hard drives say it.

I also don't see you guys whining and bitching about sony which does the same thing. You buy a hard drive lets say 80 gig. You right away are down to 74 gigs. Then if you do the whole sony home thing your down to 71 or 70GB. But I thought I was advertised an 80GB?

 

[jms493]

I think the memory cards are as advertised...i have 2.

 

[Maynard]

actually PP, i dont fail at all. it seems that people are not understanding what i am saying. i understand the scaling is not correct on a HD like virix mentioned......what i am saying is that when i goto the store and buy a 500 gig hd for example, i have 500 gigs of space to use. meaning the hd is free of any information regardless of the scale being wrong. There is not 7 gigs of space being used on the drive in order for it to function. After i install the hd in my pc i can click properties and see none of the space is used and is all available just as advertised.

you cant do this with a 360 hdd. People like leaf are so focused on being right that they fail to understand what they are reading. pretty much sums up why he is in his role so he can always be right and think everyone else is stupid....and lol @ people jumping on his fail

 

[leaffan]

actually PP, i dont fail at all. it seems that people are not understanding what i am saying. i understand the scaling is not correct on a HD like virix mentioned......what i am saying is that when i goto the store and buy a 500 gig hd for example, i have 500 gigs of space to use. meaning the hd is free of any information regardless of the scale being wrong. There is not 7 gigs of space being used on the drive in order for it to function. After i install the hd in my pc i can click properties and see none of the space is used and is all available just as advertised.

you cant do this with a 360 hdd. People like leaf are so focused on being right that they fail to understand what they are reading. pretty much sums up why he is in his role so he can always be right and think everyone else is stupid....and lol @ people jumping on his fail

Are you retarded? Seriously?

If you goto a store and buy a 500GB hard drive you will not have 500GB available.

 

[Boucher]

Leaf are you a IT