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Cheesiest player?

To me a cheeser is somebody that plays tourney style in a sim situation. Korn has been an out of the closet tourney baller for years so he is not a cheeser. He's won a lot of cash and been featured on a show that highlights the best tourney players in the country. You can't bring a sim game to a tourney fight so why all of the hate?

because I called him out and he wouldn't step up
 
To me a cheeser is somebody that plays tourney style in a sim situation. Korn has been an out of the closet tourney baller for years so he is not a cheeser. He's won a lot of cash and been featured on a show that highlights the best tourney players in the country. You can't bring a sim game to a tourney fight so why all of the hate?

Well said...well spoken :)
 
To me a cheeser is somebody that plays tourney style in a sim situation. Korn has been an out of the closet tourney baller for years so he is not a cheeser. He's won a lot of cash and been featured on a show that highlights the best tourney players in the country. You can't bring a sim game to a tourney fight so why all of the hate?
you cant bring a Tourney Baller to SIM game.....its impossible. thats like trusting Kim Kardashian after saying "I Do" .......
:lol:
but a SIM baller can play in a Tourney....might not do very well but its not impossible.

because I called him out and he wouldn't step up
so do you like your games Creamy, Aldente, Tourney Style, SIM w/Cheese, or Str8 SIM up?? :D
 
you cant bring a Tourney Baller to SIM game.....its impossible. thats like trusting Kim Kardashian after saying "I Do" .......
:lol:
but a SIM baller can play in a Tourney....might not do very well but its not impossible.


so do you like your games Creamy, Aldente, Tourney Style, SIM w/Cheese, or Str8 SIM up?? :D

you can bring a tourney player to sim thats how I came over I love playing sim over the tourney style just because it takes more skill and intelligence to play. Tourney is about winning thats pretty much the bottom line do what you can to win which may only be two plays and also very boring. Sim is about having fun and playing the game the way it was meant to be played not solely bent on winning but having fun
 
you can bring a tourney player to sim thats how I came over I love playing sim over the tourney style just because it takes more skill and intelligence to play. Tourney is about winning thats pretty much the bottom line do what you can to win which may only be two plays and also very boring. Sim is about having fun and playing the game the way it was meant to be played not solely bent on winning but having fun

agree, that is concept in a SIM community but unfortunately, Tourney Ballers like Korn or MFers at Gamers Lab and Kobra Video Watching MFers, EBook MFers, DO NOT think like that.
they will admittingly say, "I paid $60 to play this game and will play it the way I want".....and thats fine and dandy.
i just think they should keep their games in those communities and not come to SIM communities trying to pose as being a SIM baller.

dont take this the wrong way,
but i still say Tourney Ballers cant be SIM ballers. the Tourney Ball side will come out sooner or later.....
like the Kim Kardashian analogy i used :D

so i guess that means you like it Creamy ??
:lol:
 
agree, that is concept in a SIM community but unfortunately, Tourney Ballers like Korn or MFers at Gamers Lab and Kobra Video Watching MFers, EBook MFers, DO NOT think like that.
they will admittingly say, "I paid $60 to play this game and will play it the way I want".....and thats fine and dandy.
i just think they should keep their games in those communities and not come to SIM communities trying to pose as being a SIM baller.

dont take this the wrong way,
but i still say Tourney Ballers cant be SIM ballers. the Tourney Ball side will come out sooner or later.....
like the Kim Kardashian analogy i used :D

so i guess that means you like it Creamy ??
:lol:

:wut:
 
agree, that is concept in a SIM community but unfortunately, Tourney Ballers like Korn or MFers at Gamers Lab and Kobra Video Watching MFers, EBook MFers, DO NOT think like that.
they will admittingly say, "I paid $60 to play this game and will play it the way I want".....and thats fine and dandy.
i just think they should keep their games in those communities and not come to SIM communities trying to pose as being a SIM baller.

dont take this the wrong way,
but i still say Tourney Ballers cant be SIM ballers. the Tourney Ball side will come out sooner or later.....
like the Kim Kardashian analogy i used :D

so i guess that means you like it Creamy ??
:lol:

I got real far in a tournament playing sim. Ask Rush.
 
I don't care about Madden in general, let alone how he plays it.. but in the grand scheme of life, the dude looks like rock troll, and thinks he's the shit. It's hilarious to witness. He's a fag.
 
I didnt see any DSA cheese

I didnt see any DSA cheese

so;
had more time than i care for but i dug this up on my backup of my backup from another backup hard drive.

trying to see where some say DSA called only 5-6 plays. Hot Route or not.....
just dont see it.

and his defense is pretty nasty with his manual skills as well......


Falcons (DSA) @ Redskins (Humble)
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhJgDfCF7_w"]DSA Cheese?? Didnt see any.[/ame]​
 
you can bring a tourney player to sim thats how I came over I love playing sim over the tourney style just because it takes more skill and intelligence to play. Tourney is about winning thats pretty much the bottom line do what you can to win which may only be two plays and also very boring. Sim is about having fun and playing the game the way it was meant to be played not solely bent on winning but having fun


yep, thats damn right ! sure,its sports game so you would like to win..but I refuse to do it at an all or nothing level. Internet gaming has the biggest trolling factor ever.

a miracle of modern science and these kids screw it up by just trying to find AI holes,not caring that there is another human at the other end from possibly thousands of miles away.

the people that say its my money,my game, i can play it how i choose have no grasp of common sense and are shallow and selfish no matter how you try to defend them.

heck, I dont even know how to surprise onside kick and dont care.... i do know that if you are in onside kick return formation, you can usually recover a surprise onside kick LOL
 
Classifying cheese by the # of plays run is completely out of touch.

The Manning-Colts ran about 12 plays total in 2006. Some games they only ran 6 (inside zone, outside zone, levels, deep cross off of PA, 3 verts and a shallow cross, and draws).

If you wanna call a player "cheesy", you're going to have to dig deeper than "X player only runs x plays."

I also find restricting a player to play according to your expectations to be completely naive and weak. Play how you want to play as long as it's within the rules of football and not some horseshit where you get the QB to walk up the field or snap the ball directly to random WRs.

That being said, at the same time, it's lame for someone like me (who plays X's and O's but also plays at the competitive/tourney level) to act dumb and take advantage of sim communitieis when I know I'd be chastized for playing style despite winning 99% of the time.

I think the misconception is that sim equates "football knowledge" or "coaching skill". Nothing could be further from the truth. I've seen guys that claim to be sim be COMPLETELY and utterly wrong about the X's and O's they speak. Granted, the sim community has more football knowledge. Just because I can send 3 at your offense and get 1 free off the edge in Madden doesn't mean I know football 1 way or another....just as someone who chooses to choose inferior plays (in the game of madden) simply for the sake of being "simulation" doesn't mean they know football one way or another. I could call inferior plays, such as I-Form Normal: Slants and run them stock and claim to "know football" more than a guy who chooses plays that have a higher success rate in the game.

It's a video game. Play it. The day we put headsets on and coach real players against one another is the day I worry about football knowledge.
 
I got real far in a tournament playing sim. Ask Rush.

There are no style points in tournament play. The self-gratification is nice, though.

I'll be honest. I have the most trouble against "random" playcallers. If I know a guy wants to chuck streaks at my head, I've got answers for that.

But a dude who does random, off the wall stuff, like Singleback Ace Pair: HB Power O (WITH AUTOMOTION) or runs plays stock...they get to me...for a drive or two...
 
There are no style points in tournament play. The self-gratification is nice, though.

I'll be honest. I have the most trouble against "random" playcallers. If I know a guy wants to chuck streaks at my head, I've got answers for that.

But a dude who does random, off the wall stuff, like Singleback Ace Pair: HB Power O (WITH AUTOMOTION) or runs plays stock...they get to me...for a drive or two...

"I win 99% of the time, but I have a hard time with some real vanilla offenses"
 
Not at all what I said.

I pride myself on defense....but it doesn't change the fact that the more "off the wall" play callers (like who REALLY calls HB Misdirection...it's awful and takes too long to develop) are the toughest to stop, because you don't really have tape (not literal tape, but you haven't seen the look much). And who really calls PA? It's awful. But guys who do that will mess you up for a drive or two, and then it's stopped.

Whereas, someone who comes in running bunch, snugs, tight doubles, strong close, i close, and just chucking corners and seams...they are dead from play 1...if you're halfway decent.
 
The whole sim thing has grown blurry for me.

I always considered myself a sim player. but what I don't understand is why people constantly whine about play calling.

My idea of "sim" ball was simply playing fair. people deliberately glitching the games with things you simply cannot stop were people I was trying to avoid. That's really why I stumbled on sites like this one. I've played in a few leagues and I won't lie, just about every game I've won I've dealt with complaints.

I always ask them, "How?, How am I cheating? what am I doing that you cannot stop?". And the reply more than often is "you keep running sweeps, you keep running outside, you call the same defense every time, you keep running sweeps.".

I've always kind of been a "take what you can get" type of guy. So I kind of watch how the defensive guy wants to play and I play off of that. I feel like I've got a lot of stick skill and that helps me a lot. but the main point is, a lot of times I see people blitzing. when I See that blitz I already know a sweep is going to pop it. I don't understand why guys wont call other defenses. why not run zone, even man if you're desperate? Instead, they get pissed, call me out and make me look like I'm doing crazy shit.

Basically I'm being told "SIM" Ball requires me to ignore the fact my opponent has called a weak play, it tells me to not shift my tight ends and wide receivers to get mismatches on the los, it tells me not to take advantage of weak playcalling tendencies of my opponents. in addition, it also compels me to cease running defensive sets that look to hide their coverages, despite the fact that these sets are completely legitimate, no cheezy nanos or crazy shit like Vernon Davis at Middle Linebacker with Calvin Johnson at Free Safety.

To be honest with you guys though. I already figured it out.

We just got some salty mf'ers here.
 
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