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Cheesiest player?
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dave
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Point taken. And, again, I have no problem with Kornstarr. He's a good kid who thinks he's a gangster, but I like him. But in the MM days, he wasn't better than DSA or even close. Anytime he played DSA he brought out all the cheese.
Hell, I remember my games with Kornstar before he got all tourney, they were always ultra competitive (I know Korn will deny that) ... and an elite player will never have a competitive games with me.
But, to be fair, I had one competitive game with DSA unbelieveably where I blew it in the last 3 minutes.
Youk
New member
So if everybody's doing it, it's ok?
Sounds like some excuse by a baseball player about steroids.
We arent talking about committing crimes, its a video game. If everyones approach is the same then all is fair. We all know Korn is cheesy as fuck by sim standards but the tourney scene is everyone playing that way so they know whats coming. They arent crying cheese, in their eyes all is fair game so he is winning legit. He plays within the rules of the tourney scene.
Steroids? What a stupid fucking analogy.
You failed for about the 4th time in this thread, give it up.
Dave. DSA cheesed most of you guys without you knowing, he had a handful of money plays out of all kinds of formations. At the time I didn't realize it, but now that I know the how the game works -- well, it's obvious now when I look back. Either way he could never beat me so, it is what it is. You're right we did have competitive games(05) it was before I got all user friendly.. I have Mobb to think for that.
And Bucs I appreciate it. That's why I like the tourny scene.. obviously the money is cool, but no one whines or bitches or accuses some one of cheese. Blantant glitches are banned, that's about it -- we all just play it out. At the end of the day everyone has their own definition of sim or they see it differently. With us we just have our standard rules.
And KNUBB I have no clue what you're trying to troll for, I am who I am. Madden nation 4, MC winner.. whatever. When you pop on Madden 11 and log online first thing you hear is my voice pumping up Virgin Gaming and the site, then they show clips of me and the guy I played in the $25,000 championship game. No clue who you are but I'm sure this shout out will make you happy.
And Bucs I appreciate it. That's why I like the tourny scene.. obviously the money is cool, but no one whines or bitches or accuses some one of cheese. Blantant glitches are banned, that's about it -- we all just play it out. At the end of the day everyone has their own definition of sim or they see it differently. With us we just have our standard rules.
And KNUBB I have no clue what you're trying to troll for, I am who I am. Madden nation 4, MC winner.. whatever. When you pop on Madden 11 and log online first thing you hear is my voice pumping up Virgin Gaming and the site, then they show clips of me and the guy I played in the $25,000 championship game. No clue who you are but I'm sure this shout out will make you happy.
dave
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Whatever you say champ. Couldn't beat me then, there's no chance he could now. But you're entitled to your opinion.However, he still cheesed you guys.
You know you're still my boy ... but you're in a state of denial.
Frankly, I think he could beat you right now.
KNUBB
WHITE RONDO
You don't have to know me bro. Just know that you trash and you will get merked fuckin with this one arm dude
LMAO!!!!!!
Hahaha, set that up, please. We could even do a friendly wager, I guarantee I'd beat him by 21 at least.
The tournament guys have it right. Only thing that should be banned is outright glitches (and money plays that cannot be stopped.) Everyone would be better off if they took that approach. All these dumb arguments would be avoided.
The whole cheese thing is nonsense. I've heard some of the most inane things labeled as cheese:
-subbing a HB in at FB
-bouncing inside runs to the outside
-having a 90/10 run
ass ratio
-going for it on 4th down (even in opponent's territory)
on and on. Just beyond stupid.
It's a strategy game, it's chess. More like checkers with EA though
. If I can beat you with a simplistic strategy that's your problem. It's on you to adjust and force me to change what I'm doing. There's no such thing as cheese. It's hilarious how the sim guys can't even come to an agreement about whats OK and what isn't. Ask 10 people what's sim you get 10 answers cause it's just subjective nonsense.
NFL teams don't mix up playcalling and have balance for the sake of it. They don't do it to respect the game or whatever. They do it because they'd get eaten alive by the other teams' coaches if they didn't.
The whole cheese thing is nonsense. I've heard some of the most inane things labeled as cheese:
-subbing a HB in at FB
-bouncing inside runs to the outside
-having a 90/10 run
ass ratio-going for it on 4th down (even in opponent's territory)
on and on. Just beyond stupid.
It's a strategy game, it's chess. More like checkers with EA though
. If I can beat you with a simplistic strategy that's your problem. It's on you to adjust and force me to change what I'm doing. There's no such thing as cheese. It's hilarious how the sim guys can't even come to an agreement about whats OK and what isn't. Ask 10 people what's sim you get 10 answers cause it's just subjective nonsense.NFL teams don't mix up playcalling and have balance for the sake of it. They don't do it to respect the game or whatever. They do it because they'd get eaten alive by the other teams' coaches if they didn't.
You'd be surprised.
OnlyOneBeerLeft
Fuck em
Korn would fucking merk DSA Dave idk what your sippin on, I've played them both. DSA undoubtedly had his money plays and adjustments, dude beat me by like 2 points when I fumbled inside the red zone right before the game ended. Korn beat me by like 10-13 points, and had me a hell of a lot more confused. DSA's money plays and defensive nano's were tricky to pick up on, and a naive player wouldn't notice them, but I did and so have a lot of other people.
Saying DSA played with a garbage team... when all that matters is speed... is ridiculous. I don't even think I've been beat at MM/VSN while using the Raiders, but I've def lost a good amount of games using all the other teams. Speed is king, a lot of the tourney ballers and high rated guys online leaderboards use the Raiders and there's a reason for that. Having guys with such high speed and agility also makes your stick skills look far greater than they are, because the player's cuts and spins are so much quicker around your controlled defender. Factor in your age and arthritis from jerking off and opening cans of cat food and your going to think he's pretty spectacular.
TimsGiants
18 and 1
Daves right you guys are in denial. Lol at Korn making himself believe he was beating DSA back in day. What maybe 1 time? DSA didnt lose..probally lost less than 10 games in 3 years. Korn got trashed by Izzy not long ago in a thread similar to this lmao. Ever buy Izzy book Korn?
Youk
New member
I'm not talking about committing a crime, I'm talking about bending the rules. Just because everyone's doing it doesn't mean it's right, but hey, when you play video games for a living, I guess you need to bend the rules.
I always beat DSA.. two years in a row under that MM tourny, and in league play with the Bills. He beat possibly one time and that's it. He always said I cheesed him when I did too, which is hilarious to me because that kid had money plays and he played in the sim community. And when did Izzy ever trash me??? Don't be an idiot, last time I played Izzy I put up over 70 on him. And like I said in Madden 11 I was a top 2 player in the nation last year.. so you think DSA can beat me now when he couldn't even do it back when I didn't even know how to come up with money plays????? lol...