Dwight Howard traded to the Lakers

[Wrath]

I am just confused as to why you guys don't think Bynum is a STAR PLAYER when NBA players like Shaq and Webber think he's actually the best center in the league. I mean what do some of you guys know better than former NBA players? I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I am sure we will revisit this thread down the road; should be interesting. I think we can all agree on one thing; it should be a very fun NBA season for the fans with these solid teams. I think the gap between the HAVES and the HAVE NOTS is getting wider just like in the 80's.

 

[IamMedellin]

LMAO How Long before Kobe screams at Dwight during practice and hurts his feelings

:kobe:

 

[FedEx227]

I am just confused as to why you guys don't think Bynum is a STAR PLAYER when NBA players like Shaq and Webber think he's actually the best center in the league. I mean what do some of you guys know better than former NBA players? I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I am sure we will revisit this thread down the road; should be interesting. I think we can all agree on one thing; it should be a very fun NBA season for the fans with these solid teams. I think the gap between the HAVES and the HAVE NOTS is getting wider just like in the 80's.

We're really going to use Chris Webber and marble mouthed Shaquille O'Neal the smiling, chuckling studio analysis as the be-all end-all of NBA opinions? Great.

Why do any of us talk or discuss anything about the NBA? Why not wait to see what Dennis Scott says?! I think we all agree Bynum has the physical tools of a star, but he's not there mentally yet.

 

[JeremyHight]

I am just confused as to why you guys don't think Bynum is a STAR PLAYER when NBA players like Shaq and Webber think he's actually the best center in the league. I mean what do some of you guys know better than former NBA players? I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I am sure we will revisit this thread down the road; should be interesting. I think we can all agree on one thing; it should be a very fun NBA season for the fans with these solid teams. I think the gap between the HAVES and the HAVE NOTS is getting wider just like in the 80's.

I think being the best at a position and being a star are two different things. Bynum may be the best Center, but that doesn't mean he is a star player. He won't take over a game, he won't be asked to take the last shot, etc. I remember when Pau Gasol was considered the best PF in the game and at no point would I say he is really a star player.

 

[whuteva]

By the way, you fuckers better give that piece of shit as much crap as you give LeBron for "The Decision".

Again, one guy was a free agent and agreed to do a television show which donated money to charity while the other hijacked and largely destroyed a franchise while still a member of that team. This included an ever-changing list of teams he could trade him to and publicly saying which teams he wanted to be traded to killing any and all leverage.

Dwight deserves just as much grief for his antics in Orlando as LBJ. The thing that made Lebron shit look REAL bad was teh whole 1 hr TV show, followed by the homecoming celebration where he promised more than like 7 NBA titles. Dwight killed Orlando and Van Gundy and sounded like a big bitch throughout the whole thing.

 

[whuteva]

I think the gap between the HAVES and the HAVE NOTS is getting wider just like in the 80's.

which is the magic the nba is trying to recreate. i personally think they should drop a team or 2.

 

[JimLeavy59]

which is the magic the nba is trying to recreate. i personally think they should drop a team or 2.

I would say 10.

 

[Chadman]

bynum is a fucking star and dominant player. He can easily take over a game defensively and offensively and is clearly the best offensive center. Bynums only problem is his attitude and immaturity. With Doug Collins as his coach, the attitude and immaturity should be a lack of concern. Collins is obviously better at coaching players outside of the x and os aspect and handling personalities. Bynums problem in LA once he emerged as the second most important player next to kobe was that he wanted to be number 1 and kobe was a fucking jack. Not to mention that brown is horrible at creating offense and plays. Bynum made paul gasol take a back seat and took all of his post up opportunities and went beast mode. kobe constantly forced up contested mid ranges and destroyed the flow of the offense which was to FEED BYNUM. In turn after not getting enough touches bynum got lazy and out of the game. This trade is going to do wonders for both teams, especially if howards back injury isnt a big concern. Howard carried a team full of role players for years and now he has steve nash running the offense and giving him the ball? Paul gasol can be an offensive force since howard isnt known as a low post player, kobe can be kobe, and the lakers finally have 3 point shooters with nash, and jamison and meeks coming off the bench. On paper, the lakers look like the team to beat. There big 3 or 4 compliment each other perfectly. Bynum on the other hand will DOMINATE in philly, and show the lead why you can argue him as the best center as he is either 1.a or 1.b


The lakers pick and roll...smh. Nash/Gasol and Nash/Howard

 

[Berowsk]

He's extremely consistent at being inconsistent.

I like to think of him as being extremely inconsistent at being consistent. :lesmug:

 

[Chadman]

turner is inconsistent as fucked..and iggy will be missed. dude caught heat all over philly because he couldnt score, but its no question he contributed in many other areas. hes a poor man lebron without the scoring. rebounds at a lesser rate, defends, and sets up other players. with all the role players and shooters the nuggets have, its obvious that his best days are ahead of him.

 

[Argath]

bynum is a fucking star and dominant player. He can easily take over a game defensively and offensively and is clearly the best offensive center. Bynums only problem is his attitude and immaturity. With Doug Collins as his coach, the attitude and immaturity should be a lack of concern. Collins is obviously better at coaching players outside of the x and os aspect and handling personalities. Bynums problem in LA once he emerged as the second most important player next to kobe was that he wanted to be number 1 and kobe was a fucking jack. Not to mention that brown is horrible at creating offense and plays. Bynum made paul gasol take a back seat and took all of his post up opportunities and went beast mode. kobe constantly forced up contested mid ranges and destroyed the flow of the offense which was to FEED BYNUM. In turn after not getting enough touches bynum got lazy and out of the game. This trade is going to do wonders for both teams, especially if howards back injury isnt a big concern. Howard carried a team full of role players for years and now he has steve nash running the offense and giving him the ball? Paul gasol can be an offensive force since howard isnt known as a low post player, kobe can be kobe, and the lakers finally have 3 point shooters with nash, and jamison and meeks coming off the bench. On paper, the lakers look like the team to beat. There big 3 or 4 compliment each other perfectly. Bynum on the other hand will DOMINATE in philly, and show the lead why you can argue him as the best center as he is either 1.a or 1.b


The lakers pick and roll...smh. Nash/Gasol and Nash/Howard

Ummm bynum had immaturity issues when Phil Jackson was the coach. Mike brown only coached bynum for one year and bynum ended up having his best season of his career

Phil Jackson is arguably the greatest coach in the history of the game.

Jus sayin

 

[Prodigal Son]

Philly will love Bynum's nights of 25 points, 15 rebounds followed by consecutive nights of 4 points 2 rebounds.

 

[JeremyHight]

Ummm bynum had immaturity issues when Phil Jackson was the coach. Mike brown only coached bynum for one year and bynum ended up having his best season of his career

Phil Jackson is arguably the greatest coach in the history of the game.

Jus sayin

I personally don't think Jackson was all that good in terms of dealing with immaturity. The guy had Jordan in Chicago who had a killer instinct 24/7. No one in Chicago ever acted out because of him, Pippen, and other veteran players. Hell, even Rodman never acted out all that much. But even when MJ and other Bulls drew ire for excessive gambling, he didn't fix it, he just let it be.

But look at what happened in LA. When he was winning championships, it was a golden time, no problems. The second he started losing, everything hit the fan. Shaq vs Kobe, tons of turmoil. Jackson never fixed it, not even close. They just shipped Shaq to Miami. Kobe at one point wanted out, that was more appeased by trades made by Lakers brass and not so much Jackson fixing anything. Bynum was acting out as a young player, never fixed by Jackson.

Jackson is an amazing coach, no questions asked, but the idea of him as the "zen master" is highly overrated, imo. He never did much to quiet the problems he had in the locker room.

 

[Argath]

I personally don't think Jackson was all that good in terms of dealing with immaturity. The guy had Jordan in Chicago who had a killer instinct 24/7. No one in Chicago ever acted out because of him, Pippen, and other veteran players. Hell, even Rodman never acted out all that much. But even when MJ and other Bulls drew ire for excessive gambling, he didn't fix it, he just let it be.

But look at what happened in LA. When he was winning championships, it was a golden time, no problems. The second he started losing, everything hit the fan. Shaq vs Kobe, tons of turmoil. Jackson never fixed it, not even close. They just shipped Shaq to Miami. Kobe at one point wanted out, that was more appeased by trades made by Lakers brass and not so much Jackson fixing anything. Bynum was acting out as a young player, never fixed by Jackson.

Jackson is an amazing coach, no questions asked, but the idea of him as the "zen master" is highly overrated, imo. He never did much to quiet the problems he had in the locker room.

I was merely pointing out the fact that Mike Brown wasn't the reason Bynum is immature nor is Mike Brown's coaching to blame. Bynum will always be immature regardless of the coach. Chadman was making it seem as though Bynum only held an attitude under Mike Brown

 

[ram29jackson]

By the way, you fuckers better give that piece of shit as much crap as you give LeBron for "The Decision".

Again, one guy was a free agent and agreed to do a television show which donated money to charity while the other hijacked and largely destroyed a franchise while still a member of that team. This included an ever-changing list of teams he could trade him to and publicly saying which teams he wanted to be traded to killing any and all leverage.

oh sure, the media had nothing to do with it at all, or the Magic front office ? Its all his fault how the GM's etc handled him and the situation.
How dare he exercise his options. He is such an evil player...what a load of crap. The truth is you guys have no clue what really goes on behind the scenes or in the minds of these people in the majority of these situations and jump the negative bandwagon because its so easy to do all the time. You are just jealous that you dont get to make decisions like this.

 

[Juggernaut]

oh sure, the media had nothing to do with it at all, or the Magic front office ? Its all his fault how the GM's etc handled him and the situation.
How dare he exercise his options. He is such an evil player...what a load of crap. The truth is you guys have no clue what really goes on behind the scenes or in the minds of these people in the majority of these situations and jump the negative bandwagon because its so easy to do all the time. You are just jealous that you dont get to make decisions like this.

:lol:

How can anyone have a serious conversation/debate with you if you're going to bring out this bullshit.

Dwight easily handled the situation worse than LeBron. Can't see how anyone could argue otherwise.

 

[ram29jackson]

:lol:

How can anyone have a serious conversation/debate with you if you're going to bring out this bullshit.

Dwight easily handled the situation worse than LeBron. Can't see how anyone could argue otherwise.

again, you are only basing it on what media told you and how you decide to percieve it. Its nothing more than your opinion to tell me i'm wrong.

You are still only the 3rd party in line for the information that comes out. You really dont know how true any of it is. You constantly want to say you dont buy the hype and yet the hype is the only place you get most of the info from. I'm not saying he may not have been a bitch in this but the truth is you really dont know the whole truth and jump on the negative as soon as possible without any real proof because lets face it, news media is sensationalized shit now. You cant disagree with that

 

[ram29jackson]

I just heard on the radio that Vegas now has the Lakers at either 6 or 3 to 1 to make the finals and were already 8 to 1 when they got Nash.

The Sixers were 60 to 1 before the trade and are now 30 to 1 LOL so shut up about the Sixers because all they did was jump from every team beating them twice over to every team beating them once over...which means they still suck.

 

[JeremyHight]

again, you are only basing it on what media told you and how you decide to percieve it. Its nothing more than your opion to tell me i'm wrong.

You are still only the 3rd party in line for the information that comes out. You really dont know how true any of it is. You constantly want to say you dont buy the hype and yet the hype is the only place you get most of the info from. I'm not saying he may not have been a bitch in this but the truth is you really dont know the whole truth and jump on the negative as soon as possible without any real proof because lets face it, news media is sensationalized shit now. You cant disagree with that

The media just told me that Romney selected Ryan as his running mate. I say we investigate.

 

[ram29jackson]

The media just told me that Romney selected Ryan as his running mate. I say we investigate.

shrink that a little n make it a smiley