killgod
OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
No the Patriots always won cause they played outside in the snow.
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Enough is enough. Peyton Manning is the greatest QB of all time.
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No the Patriots always won cause they played outside in the snow.
killgod
OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
Just want to note that the Colts have that very same kicker and previously had the most accurate kicker the NFL has ever had and holds the streak of 42 straight FG's.
I guess this suggests that clutch > stats? Cause the Colts are lacking in that dept.
Or at least Clutch + Good or Great stats > No Clutch + Elite stats?
FirstTimer
Freeman Error
The Colts also won their Super Bowl with Adam V. Mike V missed some big FG's for the Colts and ADam was injured this season obviously. Brady got the Pats into position for those kicks and he gets credit for that but it also has to be remembered that Adam V was great enough to nail those kicks in those conditions.
Part of me has to wonder too how skewed Mike V's accuracy numbers are since he kicked indoors for at least half his games.
killgod
OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
Don't know if Vinatieri woulda nailed that 51 yarder either, not that Stover missed by all that much.
Mike V got to play in optimum playing conditions more often than not, which is how champions are decided. So he was the most accurate on the championship "settings" therefore he's championship calibur. Vinatieri earned his stripes by using wind and shit, fucking cheese as far as I'm concerned. Did you know that snow adds +5 to kick accuracy? Cheat2win gopatsgo!
FirstTimer
Freeman Error
I couldn't believe they sent Stover out there.
I saw him run onto the field and actually asked out loud "You've got to be kidding me?"
killgod
OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
Caldwell lacked the balls that Payton had.
Colts were outcoached, which isn't a new thing for them. Thankfully they got Lovie Smith and the Bears a couple years ago, at least they knew they couldn't possibly have been outsmarted in that one. lol
LiquidLarry2GhostWF
Highwayman
Yet, it wouldn't make a difference without this guy:
Let's have a little fun.
Career postseason numbers
Player A: 62% completion, 28 TD, 15 INT, 85.5 QB rating
Player B: 62.9% completion, 28 TD, 19 INT, 87.6 QB rating
Which one is Peyton and which one is Brady? Which one is Mr. Postseason, Mr. Clutch and which one is choker supreme postseason failure Peyton Manning?
The one with three Super Bowl rings and four appearances.
Oh. See that's weird. They play pretty similarly in the post season yet one has four appearances and the other has two.
It's almost like there are other factors that are in play. Naaaaaahhhhh.... Peyton Manning just isn't clutch, doesn't have enough grit, not a leader, not a winner or any other number of intangible nonsense! Makes perfect sense!
It's almost like there are other factors that are in play. Naaaaaahhhhh.... Peyton Manning just isn't clutch, doesn't have enough grit, not a leader, not a winner or any other number of intangible nonsense! Makes perfect sense!
killgod
OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
As I said in the other thread.
Peyton has 2 TD's in 2 Super bowls. One from a blown coverage where Wayne had nobody within 20 yards of him and the other was taking advantage of an injured starting CB.
Who's fault is it that Peyton does dick all in the big game?
Is it the kicker's fault?
Is it the defenses fault?
No.
He's in control. He runs the offence, he picks his plays and he throws the ball. His guys catch just as well as any other QB's targets so it's not their problem.
It's all on him.
killgod
OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
lol at trying to discount Peyton's TDs.
but but but he was picking on an injured cornerback for christ sakes!
but but reggie wayne didn't have anyone near him no fair!!
killgod
OHHHH WHEN THE REDSSSSS
lol at trying to discount Peyton's TDs.
but but but he was picking on an injured cornerback for christ sakes!
but but reggie wayne didn't have anyone near him no fair!!
that's not the point you fucking retard.
if that's all he can muster in the fucking super bowl then he's not worthy of any sort talk in regards to greatness.
I agree, their offense was not that crisp. Wayne didn't look great and he was struggling to get any big plays out of his guys.
My point is a counterpoint to you saying... "it's all on him"
Clearly it's not as he has no control over what his defense or special teams do. It just so happened that on this game his defense gave up a record-tying performance and his special teams failed on what was one of the biggest plays of the game and probably the biggest momentum swing.
I'm not trying to say Manning is free of blame, he's not. I just can't stand football fans and their obsession with one-game hyperboles, where each game can swing a guy all over the place.
:jonesy:
Yeah, you're right Peyton sucks.
Let's throw out anything he's done in his other 194 starts and only focus on the 1%.
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lol calm down
it's lame to sit there and make excuses about why he threw touchdown passes, that's empty criticism why is it relevant whether or not he was picking on a CB or that his WR got wide open?
And it's not like Manning would be a better QB had he attempted to throw another TD instead of calling a run play and letting Addai score.
it's lame to sit there and make excuses about why he threw touchdown passes, that's empty criticism why is it relevant whether or not he was picking on a CB or that his WR got wide open?
And it's not like Manning would be a better QB had he attempted to throw another TD instead of calling a run play and letting Addai score.
FirstTimer
Freeman Error
So Peyton is penalized for being smart enough to go after a DB that just came into the game and also getting Reggie Wayne open by making a playcall and adjustment at the line that created a mis-read by a safety?
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