Gruden will interview for NFL jobs

[Villain]

Maynard is really on a low heading into 2013... Your VSN stock is dropping, bruh!! :maynard:

 

[dave]

I hope Gruden lands a job (not Philadelphia). I want that ass-kissing aging Dennis the Menace off TV.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

the whole good QB aspect really bugs me. when did it become i wont coach unless i have a team thats already built? gruden took over dungys team....does that mean he cant build his own QB and team without taking over what someone else already built.

sure gruden, cowher have earned that right. But its a real chicken shit move to say, im not gonna coach there cause i have to build that team.

its what seperates the belecheck, lombardis, jimmy johnsons, don shulas from todays wanna be HOFers

EDIT: Nevermind, I got my years in Washington confused with our terrible QB situations.

 

[Maynard]

I'm also tired of the "Dungy's team" BS. People make it out like Dungy's Bucs would have been back-to-back SB champs if not for missing a bus or something, when in actuality, they got their shit pushed in at the Vet the two years prior.

dungy couldnt get them to the promise land, but gruden did...with dungys team. they were dungys players, he drafted and signed the FA and built that team. gruden had nothing to do with building that team. to his credit though, he did win the SB with them

 

[RyanLeaf16]

I don't really think he's scared of it. He came into Oakland and TB both in bad QB situations. I think the guy is just content with the slowed down lifestyle. I mean, this is hardly the only time he's turned down a job. The NFL has had more "above average" QBs now than ever, and he's still kept his name out of serious talks of taking a job for years

I'm also tired of the "Dungy's team" BS. People make it out like Dungy's Bucs would have been back-to-back SB champs if not for missing a bus or something, when in actuality, they got their shit pushed in at the Vet the two years prior.

I hate hearing about "Dungy's team" as well. 22 new players were on that roster, that Gruden brought in, that won the Super Bowl. That was not Dungy's team.

dungy couldnt get them to the promise land, but gruden did...with dungys team. they were dungys players, he drafted and signed the FA and built that team. gruden had nothing to do with building that team. to his credit though, he did win the SB with them

41% roster turnover. That's not a piece here and there, that's a significant amount of turnover.

That's the biggest issue I have with the Dungy apostles. They have such a misguided perception of the man. Stand-up guy, good coach and knew how to be a good leader of men. His ability to evaluate talent was not all that great. He didn't draft the core of that team at all. Sam Wyche did. Dungy gets all the credit, when in fact, the only "cornerstone" he drafted was Ronde Barber. Other than that, Dungy was hit and miss on draft day. He was able to grab Brian Kelly and Al Singleton as well. Booger McFarland was a top-pick, but, he was hurt a lot and when he finally moved to the UT, other guys outplayed him (i.e. Chartric Darby & Ellis Wyms). Wyche drafted Warren Sapp, Derrick Brooks and John Lynch. Additionally, it was Herm Edwards that went to Dungy and told him to move Lynch from Linebacker to Safety.

The reason the Bucs finally beat the Eagles is at the 4:35 mark. Sapp describes exactly was Gruden said and that is why the Bucs finally got over the hump. A competent coach makes a whole lot of difference. Basically, Dungy's crew couldn't recognize what Philly was doing OR they were not qualified to create a gameplan to overcome it. Gruden did.

 

[bucky]

I hope Gruden lands a job (not Philadelphia). I want that ass-kissing aging Dennis the Menace off TV.

Gruden did say he liked the Philly Rookie QB. Bahaha, now I'm really hoping he goes to Philly.

 

[s@ppisgod]

dungy couldnt get them to the promise land, but gruden did...with dungys team. they were dungys players, he drafted and signed the FA and built that team. gruden had nothing to do with building that team. to his credit though, he did win the SB with them

Dungy's teams weren't that great though. Their one playoff win in the 4 seasons prior was a really close win over a very average Redskins team. They got their asses kicked in Philly in games that weren't competitive at the start of the 2nd half. In the wildcard round. They're remembered as world beaters for some reason by people who apparently didn't pay any attention at the time.

Also, the major differences were on the offensive side of the ball. Their best defense was in 99, and they failed to get to the Super Bowl, much less win it. Sapp was a monster that year, and Hardy was still a great Mike. 02's defense was worse, but their offense was markedly improved. Brad Johnson was a totally different QB, McCardell and Pittman were brought in by Gruden played pivotal roles in the offense, Jurevicius had timely plays and was a new face, etc.

 

[Maynard]

i wasnt aware of the 44% turnover. that obviously changes a persons perspective. dont get me wrong. i love gruden, but he has that perception of taking over dungys team...wrong or not