HOF poll on Observer site

[FedEx227]

wut?

SuperBrawl 98 was the highest buyrate for SuperBrawl ever, and is a Top 5 highest buyrate in WCW during the Hogan era.

Not entirely accurate. Tied for highest with the 1999 version.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I'm on a plane and don't have time to look it up. What did SuoerBrawl do vs Starrcade? Match 2 vs Match 1.

 

[FedEx227]

Here are top WCW buyrates during Hogan era (1+)

1998 Bash at the Beach: 1.5
1997 Halloween Havoc: 1.1
1998 Uncensored: 1.1
1997 Starrcade: 1.9
1998 Starrcade: 1.15
1998 Souled Out: 1.02
1998 SuperBrawl: 1.1
1999 SuperBrawl: 1.1

 

[FedEx227]

I'm on a plane and don't have time to look it up. What did SuoerBrawl do vs Starrcade? Match 2 vs Match 1.

Post #80 ya bum.

SuperBrawl: 1.1 (up from .73 year before)
Starrcade: 1.9 (up from .95 year before)

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Post #80 ya bum.

SuperBrawl: 1.1 (up from .73 year before)
Starrcade: 1.9 (up from .95 year before)

And how many total buys is that?

Like I said, the Sting/Hogan program dropped like a stone. House shows headlined by Sting also bombed iirc. They thought they caught fire with him and it didn't even last 3 fuckkng months.

I like Sting. He's unfairly beat up by some. I think he's a hall of famer. Not a bigger star than Foley, and frankly, it isn't even close.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Also, I love how anything Foley drew was because he was a cog in a machine, but Sting pops one buy rate in his life, against one of the best draws of all time, but we chalk that up entirely to Sting.

Let's be fair.

 

[FedEx227]

All I can get is the buys for Starrcade which was 650,000. I'll keep hunting.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Not entirely accurate. Tied for highest with the 1999 version.

Up to that point, it was by far the highest, which was the point.

The next year, it was Hogan/Flair.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

One more.

If Sting was such a huge star, why has he never been a house show draw?

Don't blame WCW, other people drew on the road (Flair, NWO, Hogan, Goldberg) during Stings years.

Fed see if you can find those Zane Bresloff quotes from the observer board. Bresloff ran the house shows and was shocked at how little Sting mattered. Meltzer posted them. Search Dave + Sting hall of fame.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Also, I love how anything Foley drew was because he was a cog in a machine, but Sting pops one buy rate in his life, against one of the best draws of all time, but we chalk that up entirely to Sting.

Let's be fair.

I had half a Foley post about his main events last night, and I decided to scrap it.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

This topic is now comparable to Emmitt vs Barry and "do you tip?".

Well done, boys. I'm taking off. See you in six months when we do it again.

 

[FedEx227]

This topic is now comparable to Emmitt vs Barry and "do you tip?".

Well done, boys. I'm taking off. See you in six months when we do it again.

Nonsense, you got Larry's dander up. We're podcasting this at some point.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

No, I mean I'm literally taking off. The flight. Last post. Really.

 

[FedEx227]

No, I mean I'm literally taking off. The flight. Last post. Really.

But you aren't off the grid in six months. This argument will return soon. I guaran-DAMN-TEE it!

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

One more.

If Sting was such a huge star, why has he never been a house show draw?

Don't blame WCW, other people drew on the road (Flair, NWO, Hogan, Goldberg) during Stings years.

Fed see if you can find those Zane Bresloff quotes from the observer board. Bresloff ran the house shows and was shocked at how little Sting mattered. Meltzer posted them. Search Dave + Sting hall of fame.

Sting rarely did house shows to begin with.

 

[FedEx227]

:tellmemore:

Sounds like a Hall of Famer.

 

[EmpireWF]

All I can get is the buys for Starrcade which was 650,000. I'll keep hunting.

Here's a list....WCW is after the WWE ones

http://www.genickbruch.com/statistiken/buyrates.html

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Nonsense, you got Larry's dander up. We're podcasting this at some point.

You know what really rustles my jimmies...Joe and I actually have the same opinion...he should be in.

I just think a lot of the details of where people knock Sting are a bit inaccurate or overblown.

No, Sting isn't a huge draw (but if you are just putting in the top draws, you get 6 over the course of 30+ years of United State's Wrestling, which is silly)...but he drew a little bit, and had a mix bag otherwise as a top guy, with some good shows and some poor showing during eras of bad business...he also wasn't a great worker, but he was a good worker...with quite a few top flight matches, a lot of really really good ones, and a lot of fucking stinkers.

I have seen Dave state before...basically...the best draws and the best workers are the ones who get in...but, IMO, guys who were a little bit of A and a little bit of B are very much qualified as well. He's not Hogan or Flair and he's not Danielson or Benoit...which, I guess would mean he shouldn't be in, but I think that's crap...I think its a no brainer he's in...he's not Warrior or some other stiff that was a bit of a star and a shitty worker, nor is he William Regal, a superior performer but not anything close to a star...he's like the Curtis Martin of wrestlers...always at the top, never considered great, but that's still Hall of Fame worthy, IMO.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

It is pretty funny looking back at these WCW PPVs...its no shock that this company couldn't hold momentum...holy fuck, what terrible booking.

 

[Bigpapa42]

It is pretty funny looking back at these WCW PPVs...its no shock that this company couldn't hold momentum...holy fuck, what terrible booking.

That is the amazing thing about Dub-Cee-Dub... doesn't matter if you look at 1990, 1992, 1995, 1997, 1999... there was almost always something really good going on and a whole bunch of really bad. During their peak, they minimized (but didn't get rid of) the bad, but it was always that way.