Hot Stove Rumors Thread

[Rudi]

yall want Frazier? take him. by all means. hes just a younger miguel cairo.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

:yao:

I don't think a Reds deal goes down without involving Frazier.

Done.

 

[NAHSTE]

Done.

Frazier and Alonso for Jurrjens. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[Obst]

Frazier and Alonso for Jurrjens. Nothing more, nothing less.

Which gold glover moves to the outfield? Alonso or Freeman

 

[NAHSTE]

Which gold glover moves to the outfield? Alonso or Freeman

Pretty sure Freeman could and would do it but he's also a better defensive 1B than Alonso so we'd probably just stick Yonder out there and punt LF defense (as if we don't already when Diaz or Hinske play out there).

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Frazier and Alonso for Jurrjens. Nothing more, nothing less.

No deal!

 

[nflman2033]

Alonso is useless as long as Votto is in Cincy and I have never been high on Frazier

 

[NAHSTE]

No deal!

:runaway:

Too bad for you the Braves don't need one of the 19 Reds catching prospects.

 

[Chrispy]

The Cincinnati Reds have been linked to several players, via both free agency and trade, so far this winter. And yet, the club hasn't made any noteworthy move.

ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney noted on Twitter Saturday that it's surprising the Reds haven't been able to bolster their team.

Ken Rosenthal of FoxSports.com also suggested in a recent column that it's time for the Reds to pull the trigger on a trade.

Cincy has been after a top-of-the-rotation starter, a closer and perhaps a left fielder. They've been linked to everyone from James Shields and Gio Gonzalez to Andrew Bailey and Joe Nathan.

What's frustrating for Reds fans, though, is that the team has plenty of depth and talent in the minors. The pieces are there for something big to happen: A package of some kind built around one or more of 1B/OF Yonder Alonso, INF Todd Frazier and catchers Devin Mesoraco and Yasmani Grandal could return a valuable arm.

Despite being former first-round picks, all of the above prospects are, for the most part, blocked by current players. Joey Votto, the 2010 NL MVP, is in Alonso's way; Frazier could be Scott Rolen's replacement, but the veteran third baseman is still under contract for this year; and Mesoraco and Grandal can't both be starting catchers for the same team.

With the St. Louis Cardinals losing Albert Pujols, and the Milwaukee Brewers without Prince Fielder and potentially Ryan Braun for 50 games, pending the results of his failed drug test appeal, the NL Central is ripe for the taking. After a disappointing 2011, the Reds could put themselves in position to take the division crown for the second time in three years. If they make the right move.

- Jason Catania

What u guys have been talking about, :lol:

 

[EmpireWF]

Mets are not in on Seth Smith.

And they apparently want to be knocked on their ass with an offer for Niese to move him.

So...yeah.

 

[moneyman255]

Ken_Rosenthal Ken Rosenthal
Source: #Reds acquire Latos from #Padres. Yonder Alonso among those headed to Pads. #MLB


Fuck.

 

[NAHSTE]

Fuck, now Latos is in a hitter's park ... bad news for my keeper team.

edit- here's what they gave up:

Reds acquire SD’s Mat Latos for Yonder Alonso, Brad Boxberger, Yasmani Grandal and Edinson Volquez.

 

[moneyman255]

According to Baseball America.

Alonso is #3
Grondal is #4
Boxberger is #10

So the Reds gave up their 3rd, 4th, and 10th best prospects, BUT Grondal is blocked, and Boxberger is a RP.

Nice trade for both teams.

 

[Chrispy]

Ken_Rosenthal
Rollins deal with #Phillies described as three years with an "easy" vest. Exact terms still not known

 

[moneyman255]

JimBowdenESPNxm JIM BOWDEN
Josh Byrnes just made trade of the year for the Padres....memories of Herschel Walker deal

 

[Mogriffjr]

And there goes the #2 for the Reds.

Alonso is still blocked in SD no?

 

[NAHSTE]

And there goes the #2 for the Reds.

Alonso is still blocked in SD no?

I guess they are going to let him flail away in that cavernous outfield. It should be pretty comical.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Reds gave up waaaay too much.

 

[NAHSTE]

Reds gave up waaaay too much.

But you got a 25 year old power arm with 4 years left of team control, who instantly becomes your #1a or #2. Yonder was blocked by the best 1B in the NL, and the catching prospect was expendable. Other than that it's Volquez and Boxberger for Latos. Don't see how that's a bad deal.

They gave up a lot in the volume sense, but value wise I think they maximized pretty nicely. They had to unload one of the catching prospects and Alonso eventually anyway, and Volquez was a sunk cost. Latos will be as good or better than Cueto for the next four seasons, and this means they probably win the Central next season. Good deal for both sides, IMO.

 

[nflman2033]

Reds gave up waaaay too much.

With Votto at 1st and Mesorasco at catcher, I am fine losing Alonso and Grandal, Boxberger isn't anything special, and I am done with Volquez, so I am happy with this move. I will love it if we can continue good seasons from Latos