If the Vikings win the Super Bowl - is Favre the G.O.A.T?

[Tailback U]

I think some of you are forgetting how good Favre has been throughout his entire career.

In 18 seasons as a starter, he has missed 2 games. Say whatever you want about him being selfish or whatever, but that is unfuckingbelievable.

In those 18 seasons, Favre has only thrown more interceptions than touchdowns 3 times.

Most of all, he has had 1 losing season in his entire career.

To completely deny him into the discussion is absolutely ridiculous and totally personal.

 

[Tailback U]

I love how QB's are the only players who get wins

There are QBs like Trent Dilfer - who are career journeymen that hover around .500 for their entire careers and then get lucky and win a Super Bowl one year because of the team they are on.

Then there are QBs like Favre and Manning, who year in and year out over the course of two decades, have one season where their team goes below .500.

The QB position is the most important link to wins because if you consistently have a good quarterback, you are going to consistently win more football games then you lose. That's a fact.

 

[MrBill]

I love how QB's are the only players who get wins

They are also the only ones that get losses so it evens out.

 

[Nukleopatra]

I love how QB's are the only players who get wins

I love how Dan Marino gets the ''if he had help'' excuse, when the guy had a few seasons where both the offense and defense was top 10 in the NFL.

They still lost.

 

[ram29jackson]

if they win Superbowl ? Favre already is Greatest QB of all time statistically speaking. And a decent man besides.

 

[Hasselbeck]

I just can't rank Favre top 5 with his late game horrible decision making. Just go through this decade and look at his playoff games..

2001 vs. Rams in the Divisional Playoffs: 6 interceptions. Possibly the worst playoff performance of all time.

2003 vs. Eagles in the Divisional Playoffs: Brett Favre throws a game bomb 50 yards down the field and Brian Dawkins intercepts it and returns it and sets us up for a 40 yard fieldgoal or so attempt. Noone within 10 yards of the ball but Eagles.

2004 vs. Vikings Wild Card Playoffs: Brett Favre throws 4 interceptions against the Vikings. This was after he beat them twice in the regular season, at home.

2007 NFC Championship game vs. the Giants: Brett Favre throws an interception at the end of the 4th that was fumbled by McQuarters (luckily) and then he goes into OT and throws an interception to Webster to lose the championship game.

2008 vs. Dolphins final game of the regular season to get into the playoffs: Throws 3 interceptions and plays just down right awful.

This is just this decade..

All this decade.. from this article..
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3276455

Date: Dec. 22, 2003
Score: Packers 41, Raiders 7
Why it mattered: Just one day after the sudden death of his father, Irv, Favre passed for 399 yards and four touchdowns on "Monday Night Football" in a blowout win.

Date: Sept. 30, 2007
Score: Packers 23, Vikings 16
Why it mattered: In his former house of horrors (the Metrodome), Favre throws a pair of touchdown passes -- his first being the 421st of his career, making him the NFL's all-time leader in that category.

Date: Sept. 28, 2008
Score: Jets 56, Cardinals 35.
Favre set a single-game career high -- and tied Joe Namath's Jets' mark -- with six touchdown passes, including three to Laveranues Coles. In Week 4, the Jets routed the eventual NFC champions.

Date: Nov. 29, 2004:
Score: Packers 45, Rams 17
In his 200th consecutive regular-season start, Favre threw for three touchdowns on 18-of-27 passing for 215 yards against the Rams on "Monday Night Football."

Date: Sept. 23, 2007
Score: Packers 31, Chargers 24
Why it mattered: With the Packers trailing by four points late in the fourth quarter, Favre throws a 57-yard TD pass to Greg Jennings for the go-ahead score. It was the 420th touchdown pass in Favre's career, tying Dan Marino for the all-time record.

Just a small sample, since I am guessing you are too young to remember just how good Favre was in his prime.. or you're just basing all this BS off of last year when he played practically one-armed for half the season.

Say what you will about his retirement drama and his ego.. I agree.. the guys act was tired, but when it comes to greatness at that position? He's as good as all the greats, and in many cases.. was better.

 

[FirstTimer]

Favre is on a mission to win the Superbowl. The man feeds off of being slighted and having the best season of his career followed by the media fawning over Manning for MVP just stoked the fire a little more. Don't look now but he is the highest rated QB in the postseason right now....107.7 in the regular season and 134.4 in the postseason.

LOL at the irony of this if Brett's ass feels slighted by the media or in general after the circle jerk and ookie cookie the media has held for him each of the last two seasons with his retire/unretire drama. Manning's MVP got 1/1000th of the coverage that Favre got this season alone with his shit.

 

[FirstTimer]

Just a small sample, since I am guessing you are too young to remember just how good Favre was in his prime.. or you're just basing all this BS off of last year when he played practically one-armed for half the season.

I can't think of any ambidextrous QB's.

 

[Hasselbeck]

I can't think of any ambidextrous QB's.

Brett Favre is that good.

 

[FirstTimer]

Brett Favre is that good.

Yeah but can he throw with both arms while running?

 

[zack54attack]

If he wins this year...With his 2 rings, and his MVP's he belongs in the discussion no doubt, and would be top 3 easily. But talent wise I think Manning will be the best ever when he retires.

 

[MrBill]

Yeah but can he throw with both arms while running?

Hell, he can grip the ball with his foot and throw it while running in a handstand

 

[FirstTimer]

Hell, he can grip the ball with his foot and throw it while running in a handstand

Yeah but can he do this?

 

[ram29jackson]

Hell, he can grip the ball with his foot and throw it while running in a handstand

while chewing gum

 

[zack54attack]

Yeah but can he do this?

Tim Tebow can :shifty:

 

[tribeTILLiDIE]

Already iiiiiis.

 

[FirstTimer]

Tim Tebow can :shifty:

Tim Tebow doesn't have those hops and stole the move from Luckman.

 

[Bear Pand]

I hope so, only because I think eventually Manning will pass him in every category.

 

[MrBill]

I hope so, only because I think eventually Manning will pass him in every category.

Unless Favre comes back every year until Manning dies of old age.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Nope.

3 things that do stand out about Favre.

1. With lesser talented teams was regularly able to beat Young and the niners in the playoffs.

2. Miraculously survived all the hits at QB over the course of his career.

3. For a short span was by far the most dominant QB in the league.


Reasons hes not nor will be GOAT.

1. Aikman , and Elway . Boys and Broncos assured Brett only has one ring to show during his peak years. Even if he grabs another one Elway going to 3 in a row then winning back to back , or Montana winning 4 including the one before Rice and co are just too much to overcome at this point.

2. He was still an INT machine. Noone going to forget just what a ridiculously careless QB he was without Holmgren. He threw away too many big games and playoff games. Noone will confuse him as the pure passer Marino was , clutch like Elway/Montana.

3. Being a selfish douche. His primadonna grandstanding , his total mistreatment of an organization that babied him , then half assing and dogging it on the Jets likely costing a coach his job. Then his grandstanding of his new head coach.
Unforgivable. You can get away with that if your some hot shot rook or young player...but at his age ?



Great resume , with another SB easily a top 7 QB ever...but GOAT.
Far too many HOF QBs with better resumes and far less negatives for him to be GOAT.

Id label Graham , Marino , Elway , Montana , Manning goat before Id label Favre.