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ign is so out of touch with reality

Gears 2 should be top 5

Was a fucking amazing game at the time it came out.

i would be shocked if gears or halo isnt number 1. i think after people got over the original oohhhs and ahhhhs over a next gen GTA they realized it kinda sucked. it will probably crack the top 5 though.
 
Madden10 outsold NHL10
Madden10 is more popular then NHL10

NHL10 is miles above Madden10.

So yeah, sales really doesn't mean much. Neither does popularity. Take this forum for example. Vast majority of people would have madden10 in their lists most likely. And NHL10 would be no where to be found. Does that mean it is a lesser game?

never played nhl 10, but i understand its a fantastic game. But if madden 10 sells more and is more popular, then imo it should be ranked higher. its obvious that ign is basing this ranking off their own personal opinion and not using any other standard.

This is why they suck. This ranking is no better than if you or i were to post our opinion of the greatest 360 games of all time
 
another moronic post by seth....gee what a shocker. Sales, popularity and staying power is the only standard by which people can use to judge a game in all time rankings. This game has mega sales, which that by itself would not make it better than most games. Add popularity to that and then you cant deny that its a better game. throw in its staying power and you have one of the top games of all time.

a game can suck and still have great sales, so that doesnt make it a better game. But if its got great sales and everyone plays it, then that does make it a better game.

and if you think a game like geo wars is a better game than you should hit yourself with a hammer cause you are a retard

Okay, Jimmy might have some company in the giant fucking moron category. At this point, I don't even think you read my post. I fucking AGREED with you that the games on there shouldn't be where they are, I just said that sales was a shitty reason for it. The fact that you think sales matter in how "good" a game is isn't surprising. You're the same kind of person that argues that Titanic is a better movie than The Godfather because it grossed more. Insert Jeremy Piven .gif here.

Fuck you're dumb.
 
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Okay, Jimmy might have some company in the giant fucking moron category. At this point, I don't even think you read my post. I fucking AGREED with you that the games on there shouldn't be where they are, I just said that sales was a shitty reason for it. The fact that you think sales matter in how "good" a game is isn't surprising. You're the same kind of person that argues that Titanic is a better movie than The Godfather because it grossed more. Insert Jeremy Piven .gif here.

Fuck you're dumb.

Jesus Christ man, help me out here for once, and try not to be a complete fucking moron.

you claim i didnt read your post, but then fail to read mine. I said, sales, poularity and staying power are the standard that should be used by gaming sites. NOT JUST SALES.....

btw, why is it that when i say your a moron you come back and say the same thing to me? cant you come up with your own names or are you too stupid to think for yourself.....:nana:
 
Jesus Christ man, help me out here for once, and try not to be a complete fucking moron.

you claim i didnt read your post, but then fail to read mine. I said, sales, poularity and staying power are the standard that should be used by gaming sites. NOT JUST SALES.....

btw, why is it that when i say your a moron you come back and say the same thing to me? cant you come up with your own names or are you too stupid to think for yourself.....:nana:

So you would consider Pokemon to be basically the greatest series of all time right? And the Wii? Best system ever?

Sales, popularity, and staying power don't mean shit. At the most, MAYBE staying power has relevance, but even then, a lot of people continue to like a lot of dumb things (present company included).

I read your post, it was just stupid. The end result is the same: this is what the editors at IGN like as the best 25 games on the 360. Your opinion, sales, staying power, or popularity, clearly have no effect over their opinions. As well they really shouldn't. When you boil it down, a good game is good because of how much you, as the person playing, enjoy it. Not how much other people do.
 
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so according to the logic in this thread Wii Play is the greatest game this gen. its the best selling game this gen by a wide margin, and its obviously popular and has staying power cause it was a top ten selling game for a good two years running
 
so basically when compiling a ranking, your opinion is the standard that should be follow?

in my opinion, the wii isnt better.....but based on the worldwide success of the system, i wouldnt be bothered if a large national website like IGN ranked it as the #1 next gen console.

your problem is that your ego is so large that you only consider what you think matters. the xbox might have the best online service, the ps3 might have blu ray....but just because those items matter to a certain group of people does not mean it matters to everyone else.

the wii is dominating the next gen sales for various reasons....and those reason that dont matter to you or me..... DO matter to other people thus making it the best next gen system

instead of posting here and calling me an idiot to combat the fact that your a moron.....why not give us an idea of what you think should set the standard...because i have already said what i think it should be and that this IGN ranking is no better than if you or i made one up
 
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so according to the logic in this thread Wii Play is the greatest game this gen. its the best selling game this gen by a wide margin, and its obviously popular and has staying power cause it was a top ten selling game for a good two years running

well conceptually that is what i am saying....but not about all next gen. We are talking 360 games since that what this ranking is for.

obviously its the best wii game right now. I mean if it sells the most, and is still the most popular game and has been around for a long enough period of time then wouldnt that make it the best game? your opinion may say no, but then his opinion may say yes......

the point again.....IGN fails to use any standard when creating a ranking and just uses their own opinion.....and their opinion is out of touch with reality
 
so basically when compiling a ranking, your opinion is the standard that should be follow?

in my opinion, the wii isnt better.....but based on the worldwide success of the system, i wouldnt be bothered if a large national website like IGN ranked it as the #1 next gen console.

your problem is that your ego is so large that you only consider what you think matters. the xbox might have the best online service, the ps3 might have blu ray....but just because those items matter to a certain group of people does not mean it matters to everyone else.

the wii is dominating the next gen sales for various reasons....and those reason that dont matter to you or me DO matter to other people thus making it the nest next gen system

instead of posting here and calling me an idiot to combat the fact that your a moron.....why not give us an idea of what you think should set the standard...because i have already said what i think it should be and that this IGN ranking is no better than if you or i made one up

First, if you're going to call someone a moron, learn how to use proper grammar.

My entire point is that there IS no standard. Enjoyment is the standard and that is all relative. A good game, or movie, or anything that exists purely for enjoyment, is all dependent upon the person taking it in, and their opinion of it. Quality is really in the eyes of the beholder. Yet we feel the need as a society to rank this shit and stir up controversy about what is better than what. I don't see a point. Which is why in my initial post, I did exactly what you're asking me to do here: I stated that I don't think that sales are a good way to measure a good game. I would rather measure what is good and what isn't based on my personal enjoyment level, because that's all that fucking matters since other people aren't playing the games for me.

You really are so thickheaded that it blows my mind. Thank you for giving me an outlet for my irritation at work, though.
 
the point again.....IGN fails to use any standard when creating a ranking and just uses their own opinion.....and their opinion is out of touch with reality

What would you have them do? Any critique or praise is based on personal opinion and nothing more. It's not based on the opinion of the masses. How is their opinion out of touch with reality when the entire BASIS of the list is THEIR top 25 games? The very reality of the situation would be THEIR opinion of the top 25 games.
 
As far as I'm concerned a list of this sort should be comprised of the opinion of a group and not at all by sales or hype. Logically speaking, a group of gamers should naturally have different interests and through compromise come up with a pretty balanced list which covers all genres.

I don't expect to agree with every choice they make, however I'd say there are a lot of inconsistencies in the decisions which I can't understand.
 
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As far as I'm concerned a list of this sort should be comprised of the opinion of a group and not at all by sales or hype. Logically speaking, a group of gamers should naturally have different interests and through compromise come up with a pretty balanced list which covers all genres.

I don't expect to agree with every choice they make, however I'd say there are a lot of inconsistencies in the decisions which I can't understand.

That is more what I don't understand about this list, and I think more accurate as to why it's a little funky (although the entire concept of caring about some other person or persons list is crazy to me). I could understand a single person having Lost Odyssey in their top 25, but for it to crack it among a group seems odd.
 
That is more what I don't understand about this list, and I think more accurate as to why it's a little funky (although the entire concept of caring about some other person or persons list is crazy to me). I could understand a single person having Lost Odyssey in their top 25, but for it to crack it among a group seems odd.


so you agree the list is funky. which is just another way of saying that you disagree with their thinking, which is all i was saying.....but you decide to some into a thread and post your idiotic views all the while you agree with me.....seems kind of crazy dont you think? i knew you had a jones for my cock but i didnt think you were a stalker......

missing these? :gonzo:
 
wtf is braid? i never even heard of that game

as much as i hate halo, i dont understand howthis game isnt in the top 3
 
so you agree the list is funky. which is just another way of saying that you disagree with their thinking, which is all i was saying.....but you decide to some into a thread and post your idiotic views all the while you agree with me.....seems kind of crazy dont you think? i knew you had a jones for my cock but i didnt think you were a stalker......

missing these? :gonzo:

You're a sad man Maynard.

I'm saying that the list seems weird, just not for the reasons you listed. I don't know how many times I need to say it. Here you go, remember this?

I don't agree with a game like Borderlands being above MW2, but your reason of it being because MW2 outsold them or is being played more as to why it is better is stupid. I think a lot of games are better than CoD4 or MW2, and I'm guessing most of them didn't sell as well. You ranted and raved about your personal preference like it makes you "in touch". Maybe they just like these games and would recommend these games more? It's not that hard to suggest that.

Still, in my personal opinion, some of those games wouldn't sniff a top 25 list of my own. Although oddly, my personal top 25 for 360 would have MW2 right around where it is in this one.

Remember that, fuckwit?
 
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