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Is anyone else's interest in the NFL dwindling?

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I mean the league as a whole not just the team you root for. I'll always love the Lions and watch every game, but this year I just couldn't get into games when other teams were playing. Even some of the playoff games I didn't bother turning on until the 4th quarter. A lot of games felt like they had almost manufactured drama where it wasn't necessarily great plays winning games, but mind boggling decisions allowing teams back in or to win the game. Plus the amount of time in a football game spent not playing football (nearly the entire 3 hours) also really drags for me.

Anyone else sort of losing interest in the NFL?
 
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A little this year, but my teams are Philly and Buffalo. Not a lot of reason to be intense about NFL football.

The NFL is still the greatest sports league. Every week matters.

If there's one thing I could kill about the NFL, it's ESPN.
 
over the last 3 years i haven't kept up with the NFL much. think my focus on soccer is the reason. though i haven't been keeping up with soccer the last few months and blame that on moving. could be my teams sucking though :dunno:
 
I started similar thread mid season. I know less about league happenings now than I have since I was a kid.
Tired of Goodells reign. Nearly everything he's done is detrimental to the league. Over exposed watered down competition and terrible issues with rules and officiating.

This. My issue is that far to often the team that plays better still loses the game because of over officiating. The NFL is working hard to create a brand of football that is "exciting" by opening up the passing game. They have put in a slew of rules that are impossible to call accurately during a game.

I've had enough of "challenges" too. It's a retarded fucking concept. If the play is important and needs to be reviewed, have a guy in the booth review the play and tell the ref. Why the need to ration out when to call out a ref on his fuck-up? Why the need for rules on when you can challenge? Why the need for the ref to jog over to a special monitor and watch it himself. Have somebody in the the booth. Buzz down. In less than a minute he can watch the replay and make his call. Stop making it a dramatic production for the sake of producing drama.

I've also had enough of how they define a catch. "Complete the process." I swear to god they are just fucking with us. How they have taken some as simple as a catch, which elementary schools kids can understand, and made it hard enough that people who have watched/played/coached football their whole life can't decide on an interpretation of the rule is beyond me.
 
http://www.adweek.com/news/television/nfl-caps-another-powerhouse-season-146305

While the National Football League remains the last great reach vehicle for advertisers, ratings for regular-season broadcasts were down slightly from 2011.

According to Nielsen live-plus-same-day data, the 101 games televised nationally over the course of the 2012 campaign averaged 16.6 million total viewers, marking a decline of 5 percent versus the year-ago 17.5 million.

In the aggregate, the five nets (NBC, CBS, Fox, ESPN and NFL Network) averaged a 10.1 household rating and a 6.1 in the 18-49 demo. Both measures were off four-tenths of a ratings point from the 2011 regular-season averages.

NBC's Sunday Night Football generated the biggest NFL deliveries, averaging 21.4 million viewers, a 12.8 household rating and an 8.2 in the adults 18-49 demo. The prime-time showcase dipped just 1 percent from 21.5 million viewers in 2011, while the household and demo ratings were similarly consistent (12.9, 8.4).

On average, clients who bought time on Sunday Night Football paid a unit cost of around $545,000 per 30-second spot.

Coming in right on the heels of NBC was Fox, which delivered an average crowd of 19.8 million viewers with its slate of early-afternoon and late games. Fox's NFL coverage also was all but flat versus 2011, slipping 1 percent versus 20.1 million viewers.

Fox's NFL broadcasts also delivered gaudy ratings, averaging an 11.8 HH and a 7.0 in the 18-49 demo. Last year’s averages were 11.9 and 7.3, respectively.

Setting aside the NFL Playoffs and Super Bowl, Fox boasts the single-highest unit cost on television. Per SQAD NetCosts data, a :30 in the network's late games cost around $589,000 a pop. Fox’s early contests were priced at an estimated $365,000 per 30-second spot.

Fox commanded steep pricing increases for its late-game inventory, taking in more than $100,000 more per spot in 2012 than a year ago, a jump of 21 percent year over year. Early-game increases were less steep; in 2011, a spot in a 1 p.m. EST broadcast cost $340,000.

CBS once again took third place with its smaller-market AFC package, averaging 17.7 million viewers, down 4 percent versus 18.4 million. CBS' NFL coverage served up a 10.7 HH rating, down a few ticks from an 11.0, and a 6.1 in the 18-49 demo, off four-tenths of a ratings point versus the year-ago 6.5.

According to the SQAD NetCost estimates, CBS' late-game unit cost declined from $420,000 a pop in 2011 to $385,000 this season. Early-game rates grew 13 percent to $316,000.

On the cable front, ESPN closed out its seventh season of Monday Night Football with an average draw of 12.8 million viewers, an 8.2 HH rating and a 5.1 in the 18-49 demo. ESPN's declines were generally in line with the other NFL partners, as total deliveries inched down 3 percent, HH ratings were off two-tenths of a point and the 18-49 set was off 6 percent from a 5.4.

ESPN's average unit cost for airtime on Monday Night Football was up 5 percent to $340,000.

Boasting an overstuffed roster of 13 regular-season telecasts, NFL Network's Thursday Night Football averaged 6.35 million viewers, a 4.0 HH rating and a 2.6 in the dollar demo. As TNF’s offering expanded from eight games, its deliveries went up accordingly—HH ratings jumped 11 percent from a year-ago 3.6.

The biggest single-game draw of the 2012 NFL season was the very last game on the calendar. NBC's presentation of Dallas and Washington’s Dec. 30 battle for the NFC East title delivered 30.3 million total viewers, a 17.0 HH rating and a 10.5 in the demo. The Cowboys-Skins showdown was the most-watched regular-season broadcast in 16 years.

One of the few NFL matchups that failed to meet expectations was NBC's inaugural prime-time Thanksgiving broadcast. As the New England Patriots relentlessly put the hurt on a woeful New York Jets squad, viewers tuned out in droves. While the opening kickoff was watched by some 25 million fans, the full broadcast averaged 19.2 million viewers.

The 49-19 mugging didn't do NBC any favors on the HH ratings front, either. While media buyers said that NBC had guaranteed a 19 HH rating, the final tally was nearly half that (10.2).

NBC said it had secured a unit cost of $975,000 per spot for its first Turkey Bowl broadcast.

If the NFL didn't gain much traction in 2012, the deliveries were leagues ahead of anything else on the tube. And the ratings growth versus just a few years ago is remarkable. Per Nielsen, the 2008 regular season averaged 14.6 million viewers, 2 million shy (or -12 percent) compared to this year. In the four-year period, HH ratings have improved 12 percent, while the 18-49 demo has grown 11 percent.

NFL ratings are down from last year, however slightly. But they have increased as a whole over the years. Also, they did their best regular season game in the past 16 years with the Cowboys vs Skins in Week 17. But they appear to be leaps ahead of all other sports products out there (although the article didnt provide numbers for it).
 
Yeah, I've turned into an NBA fan mostly (and I'm a Suns fan, so that's saying something). I still didn't miss a minute of Packer football, but I didn't even bother with almost every other game.

1) I hate the way it's covered. This could be a thread all of its own. We read a Tebow / Jets article literally every week the entire fucking offseason last year. The human interest stories, the manufactured drama, the "this guy said this HOW DARE HE" and the pathetic fake laughter of the pregame shows. It feels like they are going out of their way to turn football into wrestling ; I ain't got time for fucking drama. I fell in love with football because of the deep strategies and the intelligence displayed. None of this is covered. Also, take your pick of these 3 groups of 2 words: Phil Simms, Joe Buck, Rob Riggle.

2) Fantasy Football. Fuck everybody who came up to me looking for an explanation of why Rogers did this or that. "WHY COULDN'T HE GET ANOTHER TOUCHDOWN?" Fuck your fantasy football team, nobody cares about it but you and your leaguemates, and 50-75% of them won't give a shit halfway through your season either. Especially fuck you if you won your league and can't stop telling me about it - it didn't require any skill or anything on your part. you got lucky on a draft order or maybe some free agents. Don't try to sell this to me as some coup of intelligent thought.

3) Every single game now, there is 3-4 times where everyone stands around arguing about a call. I would be watching the game and be like "oh cool its referee time where everyone pretends to know what the fuck they are doing" which were cool only for extended beer runs / piss breaks. The calls are so close that sometimes you just don't know. Most of the time, even after the ref explains it, you still don't know. The anouncers have to awkwardly explain things. Why does Mike Pereira still have a job? why do you have to have a fucking "rules expert" studio guy in the first place? They overcomplicated the rulebook. This is worsened when you are watching the game with other people, which used to be my favorite thing ever. At the bar, you will get 30 people who don't know what they are talking about yelling and screaming. It's like listening to your 14 year old cousin go off about politics ; shut the hell up, you don't know what you were talking about, and you were probably too busy arguing to hear the verdict.

Or maybe I just grew up a little. maybe its too hard to like what you did as a kid. For example, Nine Inch Nails. First concert i ever went to. love the band more than I do some family members. entire discography on my hard drive, and i never listen to them anymore. Just kinda played it out.

I also havent owned a console in many years, so I don't play madden. NBA2k13 I play daily still, because they make it for PC.
 
Definitely agree with you on your first point. My mention of manufactured drama goes for off the field stuff as well. I find it hilarious when all these personal rivalries get played up before the game and everyone gets excited for a couple specific players to go at it or get revenge.

I also don't like fans that will blindly defend a guy just because he plays for your team. Or when people get so upset they can't function because their team lost (that goes for all sports really). I might be upset for maybe 15-30 minutes after the game but then I'm over it. I'm not going to let something I have no control over seriously affect me.

I think I may just be getting tired of how sports are such a large part of our lives and that they can command every day attention and non stop discussion. Don't get me wrong, I enjoy watching and playing a variety of sports because I enjoy competition, but the things that take place outside of the actual game are getting more and more annoying.
 
Diivox point 1 and 2 made me conscious of something I never tried to figure out but felt. I used to spend alot of time looking up stats and reading articles and books on football strategies, and old stories. I find that my interest in doing so is next to nothing today. But it's not because I don't love the game, but because it feels like I have noone worth talking to about it. I know more people now that *talk* about football then ever before but every single one of them save one or two is a fuckin F. Football hack. They can't hold any football conversation that doesn't include "bullshit call".." sucks" .. Or "points".
 
Third or fourth thread on this topic since myself and a few others predicted over exposure would hurt fan interest and Zoneblitz vehemently disagreed. Hmm, wonder where he is today...

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http://www.adweek.com/news/television/nfl-caps-another-powerhouse-season-146305



NFL ratings are down from last year, however slightly. But they have increased as a whole over the years. Also, they did their best regular season game in the past 16 years with the Cowboys vs Skins in Week 17. But they appear to be leaps ahead of all other sports products out there (although the article didnt provide numbers for it).

I really, really, really wish Zoneblitz was here to take his comeuppance.

FOX, CBS, ESPN all down between 1%-5%.

Thanksgiving games down.

NFC Championship Game was down.

Super Bowl was up, but that was thanks to the blackout. NFL Network Thursday was up, but that was to be expected with more homes getting the network, leading to a novelty factor for many people.

Tried to tell that m'fer that any form of entertainment reaches a breaking point, and the NFL was greatly expediting that breaking point with some of their decisions. Tried to tell that m'fer that the rules changes would wear down fans patience and change the fabric of game.

Ratings will drop again next year. If they start doing dumb shit like widening the field, and eliminating the three point stance, and eliminating hits below the waist, and eliminating kickoffs (all are real possibilities), they will drop dramatically and not incrementally. The league has peaked, only so many people were going to get into the NFL, and some were obviously going to lose interest at some point. CFB powers would be wise to expand playoffs now. I've said for years that CFB is a good playoff system away from at least challenging the NFL as king of the mountain.
 
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