Jets looking to part ways with Sanchez and Tebow

[Bear Pand]

Are you even familiar with Tim Tebow? When has Tebow ever pouted in his life?

He's the most positive athlete i've ever seen. The New York media has been baiting him all year, trying to get him to bury Sanchez & Ryan. All he does his smile and say "I try to make the best of every situation when i'm in a position to help this team".

Just today there were multiple people reporting that Tebow was going to ask for a trade/release if McElroy started last two games.

Of course not.

There are plenty of scenarios where he would help any team. Or you could put Tebow & Brady in the same huddle to confuse the defense, since Tebow can line up in about four different spots.

I don't care who your QB is, a guy like Tebow could be utilized on any team.

There wouldn't be any confusion cause when the ball is hiked it's going to Brady.

There's no room for him to line up at TE and they don't really have a need for him at WR or HB. That's even if he'd be willing to make the full time switch to another position. Again, if given a choice Tebow will go to a team that'll give him a shot to start.

 

[killgod]

You guys are mental.

You think Tom Brady is going to pout & walk off the field if the Pats ran a QB keeper w/Tebow on 4th & 1?

Yes, he would. Seriously. He'd be a team player and not make a deal about it, that's the Patriot way, but he'd not like it at all.

Not happening. Besides, he's more dangerous on 4th and 1 than Tebow would ever be.

 

[bucky]

Teams will be lined up around the block for Tebow.

He will go to New England, and the hate will grow to unsustainable levels when Belichick has him piling up TD's in the red zone.

Only if he agrees to play another positions and NOT QB. Tebow should learn how to be a QB or agree to move to another position. If Tebow goes to NE, they won't be taking out Brady and putting in Tebow, even for just the Red Zone. Tebow will be taking hand offs or catching passes from Brady.

 

[bucky]

You guys are mental.

You think Tom Brady is going to pout & walk off the field if the Pats ran a QB keeper w/Tebow on 4th & 1?

How many 4th and 1's do you normally have in a game. Beli won't be taking Brady out at QB and putting in Tebow EXCEPT for maybe this one rare occurrence. Tebow's not a QB. He needs to agree to a position change and he'll end up being a lot more involved. I think he's a good person, very good athlete, but shit QB. The guy is a Football player, not a QB. Tebow could be very effective in the NFL if he wasn't so adamant about being a QB.

 

[bucky]

The Pats have used WR's at DB, RB at WR, WR's at RB, converted LB's to S, and have done a better job utilizing the skill sets of players than any team in the league. I would think Bill Belichick would be salivating at the opportunity to get his hands on a unique player the caliber of Tebow. And his o-coordinator drafted him.

Not at QB.

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

K. Cousins
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1st Round Pick

 

[Glenbino]

The Pats brought Tebow in for a visit before the 2010 Draft FWIW and like Warner already mentioned Josh McDaniels thought enough of him to take him in the first round.

If he goes to New England the questions about starting every week are gone.. partly because he's out of the New York market and partly because Tom Brady is in front of him, not a turnover machine who hasn't progressed at all since being drafted in Mark Sanchez.

Belechik can sell this kid on getting his shot once Brady is gone and use him in sub packages like Warner said either near goal line, on special teams or in short yardage.

As far as him demanding a trade out of NY.. He was told he was the #2 all year, public statements were made by the coach that there were two good QBs in New York since the preseason and when push came to shove and Sanchez got benched he was passed over and even marked as injured when he said he was healthy.

The Jets lied to him and have been a toxic locker room teetering on disaster for the last two years. I don't blame him for wanting out.

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[Glenbino]

How many 4th and 1's do you normally have in a game. Beli won't be taking Brady out at QB and putting in Tebow EXCEPT for maybe this one rare occurrence. Tebow's not a QB. He needs to agree to a position change and he'll end up being a lot more involved. I think he's a good person, very good athlete, but shit QB. The guy is a Football player, not a QB. Tebow could be very effective in the NFL if he wasn't so adamant about being a QB.

I would put him in on 1st and goal and give him a QB keeper, fake reverse, actual reverse, read option or dump pass look a couple times a game.

The guy is deadly inside the 10 because of all the things he makes you prepare for to prevent a score. That 4-5 yard gain of a gimmick play doesn't mean much at your own 35 and is usually negated when Tebow has to throw a couple plays later to sustain a drive, but I don't see Brady complaining about evolving this offense because he hasn't since 2001 despite it changing almost yearly.

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[bucky]

I would put him in on 1st and goal and give him a QB keeper, fake reverse, actual reverse, read option or dump pass look a couple times a game.

The guy is deadly inside the 10 because of all the things he makes you prepare for to prevent a score. That 4-5 yard gain of a gimmick play doesn't mean much at your own 35 and is usually negated when Tebow has to throw a couple plays later to sustain a drive, but I don't see Brady complaining about evolving this offense because he hasn't since 2001 despite it changing almost yearly.

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No way do I want Tebow at 1st and 9 at the goal line. The field is so compact at that point and you really don't need to worry much about Tebow passing. You don't take Brady out. With Brady you have the threat of a run (with running back) AND the threat of a pass. Tebow, you have the threat of a run with an occasional lucky pass. Tebow would have so much more value being more involved in the offense at another position.

 

[Rudi]

lol at the team who actually wants mark sanchez.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

No way do I want Tebow at 1st and 9 at the goal line. The field is so compact at that point and you really don't need to worry much about Tebow passing. You don't take Brady out. With Brady you have the threat of a run (with running back) AND the threat of a pass. Tebow, you have the threat of a run with an occasional lucky pass. Tebow would have so much more value being more involved in the offense at another position.

It's as if you've never seen Tebow play.

He's most dangerous in the red zone.

Nobody is suggesting Brady should be coming out of the game in favor of Tebow for anything more than a small handful of plays for the purpose of deception or a change of pace. We aren't talking entire series here or every goal line snap.

 

[JeremyHight]

I could see a team getting Sanchez, but with that contract, there isn't a chance in hell any team trades for him. If he is cut, he'll be signed somewhere to backup.

 

[Glenbino]

No way do I want Tebow at 1st and 9 at the goal line. The field is so compact at that point and you really don't need to worry much about Tebow passing. You don't take Brady out. With Brady you have the threat of a run (with running back) AND the threat of a pass. Tebow, you have the threat of a run with an occasional lucky pass. Tebow would have so much more value being more involved in the offense at another position.

Yeah he's been awesome when the Jets and Broncos used him in the receiving game... not like those skills take a career to learn or anything :yao:

And he worked just fine in the RZ for Denver, it was him getting us there that was the hard part.

You put Tebow in the shotgun on first and it makes you prepare for a QB run, which opens up running lanes via the read option, or a short dump pass to one of two of the best TEs in the league, a luxury Tebow never had in Denver. If nothing is open you tell him to just throw it OOB..

Belechik and McDaniels aren't beyond expanding the offense and like I said before BOTH liked Tebow before the draft for some reason.

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[Warner2BruceTD]

Only if he agrees to play another positions and NOT QB. Tebow should learn how to be a QB or agree to move to another position. If Tebow goes to NE, they won't be taking out Brady and putting in Tebow, even for just the Red Zone. Tebow will be taking hand offs or catching passes from Brady.

How many 4th and 1's do you normally have in a game. Beli won't be taking Brady out at QB and putting in Tebow EXCEPT for maybe this one rare occurrence. Tebow's not a QB. He needs to agree to a position change and he'll end up being a lot more involved. I think he's a good person, very good athlete, but shit QB. The guy is a Football player, not a QB. Tebow could be very effective in the NFL if he wasn't so adamant about being a QB.

Not at QB.

Tebow "has agreed" to play many positions. He's lined up at TE and plays special teams with no complaint. He doesn't need to drop playing QB and "learn" anything, because his value is tied to the fact that he brings a different element to the QB position. Why would you take a special player who can do specialized things from one spot, and make him a full time mediocre TE or FB? I'd rather just have a real TE or FB.

OMG YOU CANT PLAY TEBOW AT QB

Why not? For a few plays per game, where he can do things other guys can't? We're not talking about dropping him back 25 times and asking him to throw 20 yard timing patterns.

 

[jms493]

Tebow was a great College Athlete....that is where it ends.

 

[ram29jackson]

...what a bunch of monkeys you guys are LOL

you bitch about media over doing the coverage of a sub par QB in Tebow.

And yet, what has this thread become ? A Tebow is/isnt, does/doesnt thread. You are no different or special then the rest of the American consumption lemmings LOL

 

[NAHSTE]

Not happening. Besides, he's more dangerous on 4th and 1 than Tebow would ever be.

True. Nobody overthrows Danny Woodhead on 4th and 1 like the GOAT, amirite?

 

[ram29jackson]

Tebow was a great College Athlete....that is where it ends.

obviously not, the story continues and so does his career

 

[bucky]

Why not? For a few plays per game, where he can do things other guys can't? We're not talking about dropping him back 25 times and asking him to throw 20 yard timing patterns.

There you go. A few plays per game. He's not a QB. Can he play on special teams? He has to do more than just a few plays per game to take up a roster spot. Can he play on special teams? Can he at least backup at FB, H-Back or TE? You have to justify the roster spot. He has to do more than just be a few plays per game QB. If he can do more, you can justify the Roster spot, and he could effectively be the third QB, what most teams usually have as the emergency QB. An emergency QB on the active roster. That would be a luxury.

But he is not an effective, every down QB. I like Tebow. I'd like to see him utilized more. Just not behind center, except for a change of pace, read option, wildcat kind of play.

At times you seem to say he can play QB and at other times you seem to say only in very specialized situations. I'm just not sure if our opinions on Tebow are far off or not.

 

[bucky]

You put Tebow in the shotgun on first and it makes you prepare for a QB run, which opens up running lanes via the read option, or a short dump pass to one of two of the best TEs in the league, a luxury Tebow never had in Denver. If nothing is open you tell him to just throw it OOB..

Windows are a lot smaller in the Red Zone. I don't have much faith in Tebow completing a pass. Do respect his running down their.