Jordan and Kobe have both played 1072 Games- Compare....

[FirstTimer]

obviously you werent, you said to show you proof on an investigation. here comes the back tracking now.

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Ncie try fuckwad.

Let's look at the covnersation we were having:

Im talking about the All Time Hits Leader, an Icon in the baseball world, what he was drug through. I think Stern didnt want Jordan to go through the same so he told him step away, let it blow over Stern was protecting his league and his top dog. I never said he bet on baseketball

What Rose did was against the rules of baseball. What Jordan was doing wasn't even illegal, let alone against the rules of basketball.

Didnt know gambling on the golf course for millions was legal

Wasn't aware it was. Care to show me where Jordan was arrested indicted charged etc with it? Hell Care to show me where he was even investigated?

The entire context of it was centered around the legalty of it.

For fucksakes, you're retarded.

 

[manchild24]

I honestly take offense to the word retarded because of a family member but hey you didnt know that.

No really my point was Jordan was gambling, out of hand, and the league knew it. So the legend that he was, Stern didnt want to have his name drug through the mud and treated like Rose so Stern tried to cover up and help his guy and league.

Like I said Im done with it, every piece of info you asked about I showed you and you back track.

 

[FirstTimer]

I honestly take offense to the word retarded because of a family member but hey you didnt know that.

*insert small violin here*

Like I said Im done with it, every piece of info you asked about I showed you and you back track.

As I've shown I didn't back track on shit. Not my fault you don't understand context. Like I'd forget my "childhood hero" was investigated by the NBA.

I said his father COULD have been murdered for this.

And it coul dahve been aliens.

I never said he bet on sports, I said Stern didnt want the same type of shit that happened to Pete Rose happen to MJ.

Pete Rose got in trouble for betting on sports..namely baseball.

You also posted a quote accusing Jordan of betting on sports.

Tard.

He owed 50K to a fucking drug dealer, that he first said was a loan then under oath said something else

And wrote him a personal fucking check for the money.

http://thefixisin.net/likemike.html

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A lot of blah blah blah showing Jordan didn't do anything illegal. LOL at the NBA suspending the GOAT because he was addicted to gambling and not breaking the law. Players get DUI's and test positive for drugs..illegal things and don't get suspended for a year. Let alone suspending a walking cash cow like Jordan for not even breaking the law.

 

[Cody]

Let me know when Kobe has 6 rings.

 

[manchild24]

wait Im confused I thought you said Quote:

Originally Posted by manchild24
Now the morons statement is totally uncalled for, I understand you're an Ill/Chi guy and are defending your childhood hero

Nice try dip shit. I just called "my child hood hero" and womanizer, and gambler, and a complete asshole.

For the record: Jordan was not/is not my hero.

Quote:
Originally Posted by manchild24

Like I said Im done with it, every piece of info you asked about I showed you and you back track.

As I've shown I didn't back track on shit. Not my fault you don't understand context. Like I'd forget my "childhood hero" was investigated by the NBA.

so is he your child hood hero or not. is that sarcasim or back tracking

 

[FirstTimer]

so is he your child hood hero or not. is that sarcasim or back tracking

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Is this retarded family member you?

 

[NAHSTE]

There's a page size photo of Jordan and Pippen playing poker on the team jet.

Hold the fucking phone ... NBA players play cards on team flights?

GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!

 

[manchild24]

well is he your hero or not, one post he is one he isnt.

I nver said he did anything illegal. I really think you are fucking retarded and yes I said it.

Stern asked him/with his attorneys to step away from the game so they didnt have a incident like Pete Rose and MLB. God you fucking read and understand what you want to. He was fucking protecting his league and Jordan before something really bd happened.

I mean holy fuck its spelled out all the shady things that went on.

 

[manchild24]

Hold the fucking phone ... NBA players play cards on team flights?

GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!

And Pippen and Jordan arent even THUGS lol

 

[FirstTimer]

well is he your hero or not, one post he is one he isnt.

Is that a "yes" to my question?

I nver said he did anything illegal.

And I never claimed he did either.

Apparently you can't follow conversations.

Stern asked him/with his attorneys to step away from the game so they didnt have a incident like Pete Rose and MLB

Yet again:

LOL at the NBA suspending the GOAT because he was addicted to gambling and not breaking the law. Players get DUI's and test positive for drugs..illegal things and don't get suspended for a year. Let alone suspending a walking cash cow like Jordan for not even breaking the law.

. He was fucking protecting his league and Jordan before something really bd happened.

Jordan in the league under investigation=better for the league money wise than him not in the league at all.

Jordan was everyone's golden goose. The NBA, the Bulls, the media. Jordan could have murdered Mother Theresa and gotten a pass from the NBA. Let alone him legally gambling being an issue.

I mean holy fuck its spelled out all the shady things that went on.

Well thank God that eliminated all the shady things going on with Jordan while in the NBA!

 

[DoubleDeuce]

Not reading this whole entire thread but:

Obviously Jordan is above Kobe all-time. What's sick to me is how Jordan transcended the game so much he's become some sort of mythical untouchable hero legend.

I don't think the gap between Kobe and Jordan, or Jordan and whoever is #2/#3 on the all time list is as wide as people make it out to be.

The gap between MJ and #2/#3 isn't very big.

But the gap between MJ and Kobe is fucking huge.

 

[Juggernaut]

Kobe is a great player, one of the greatest...but Mike is Mikeand that's the end of that.

As far as Kobe going, I put him easily top 10.

 

[dave]

Jordan reminds me of Ty Cobb.

In the late 60s, Cobb was asked by a reporter - "Mr. Cobb, how do you think you'd fare against today's pitchers?"
Cobb answered: "I'd probably hit about .290."
The incredulous reporter said: "The great Ty Cobb only hit .290???"
Cobb said: "Well, I am 70."

If Jordan got into decent shape right now, he could probably come back and still easily average 20 ppg or more.

 

[Juggernaut]

Jordan reminds me of Ty Cobb.

In the late 60s, Cobb was asked by a reporter - "Mr. Cobb, how do you think you'd fare against today's pitchers?"
Cobb answered: "I'd probably hit about .290."
The incredulous reporter said: "The great Ty Cobb only hit .290???"
Cobb said: "Well, I am 70."

If Jordan got into decent shape right now, he could probably come back and still easily average 20 ppg or more.

Dont get ahead of yourself. He was never the greatest shooter, always a slasher. And while he did play amazing defense, that wont help him get those 20ppg.

Could he be a great contributor now? Sure, but not a "star".

 

[dave]

Dont get ahead of yourself. He was never the greatest shooter, always a slasher. And while he did play amazing defense, that wont help him get those 20ppg.

Could he be a great contributor now? Sure, but not a "star".

Most old guys lose their shooting legs anyway.
Jordan would get those 20 points on smarts and slashing.
Oh, and fucking will to win. Something 90% of today's NBA players wouldn't know about if it smacked them in the face.
If Jordan played in his prime with today's rules, he'd average 50 ppg easily.
He played against the Knicks and Pistons who were tough motherfuckers who didn't deal with today's Harlem Globetrotter rules.

 

[NAHSTE]

Jordan reminds me of Ty Cobb.

In the late 60s, Cobb was asked by a reporter - "Mr. Cobb, how do you think you'd fare against today's pitchers?"
Cobb answered: "I'd probably hit about .290."
The incredulous reporter said: "The great Ty Cobb only hit .290???"
Cobb said: "Well, I am 70."

If Jordan got into decent shape right now, he could probably come back and still easily average 20 ppg or more.

He averaged exactly 20 at 39, so I don't know about "easily" or "or more" ...

 

[Esjay]

Dave knows jack shit about basketball.

 

[dave]

He averaged exactly 20 at 39, so I don't know about "easily" or "or more" ...

Yeah and he did that not even caring any more.
He knew the Wizards sucked, he was just trying to sell tickets.
Imagine Jordan, even know, motivated and in shape and not just out there to sell tickets. He could still get it done against today's lazy fucks.
I am not saying Jordan at 48 playing for the Wizards. I am saying Jordan, motivated, playing for a good team ... with no incentive but to win and show today's players how it's done.
Obviously he wouldn't be a top 10 player, but I'd be stunned if he wouldn't be at least top 25.

Dave knows jack shit about basketball.

Just because Dave doesn't pretend to be a black guy doesn't mean he doesn't watch basketball.
For most of you kids, the biggest accomplishment in today's game is who has the greatest tattoos. At one time, who won mattered more than who looked good just playing the game.
I was watching the NBA when CBS tape-delayed playoff games.

 

[NAHSTE]

Yeah and he did that not even caring any more.

Can't imagine Jordan not caring. I don't think that's possible. There's a video of him from a year or so back, playing 10-year old kids in 1-on-1 after a speaking engagement. He mercilessly destroys each kid.

Imagine Jordan, even know, motivated and in shape and not just out there to sell tickets. He could still get it done against today's lazy fucks.

:facepalm:

Yay, more incorrect generalizations from stuffy white people about how today's generation of NBA players is lazy. Let me guess, in your day they walked 50 miles to the gym in the snow and all that?

Just because Dave doesn't pretend to be a black guy doesn't mean he doesn't watch basketball.

Oh. Ok. Didn't realize watching basketball was synonymous with pretending to be a black person for every one else other than Dave.

For most of you kids, the biggest accomplishment in today's game is who has the greatest tattoos.

Could you sound more out of touch?

At one time, who won mattered more than who looked good just playing the game.

You're right. Nobody tries anymore. Those lazy bums like Kobe Bryant and Kevin Garnett are just dragging down the world of sport with their non-competitiveness and indifference. How I long for the days of effort and intensity. Whenever I see Al Horford almost break his back to win a measly regular season game, I think back to the days of yore, when everyone tried so much harder.

Those silly young'ns Al and Blake (notice the dozens of tattoos on each one, disgusting) were just staging this midair collision for the style points - neither was trying to help their team win:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5LOgPURZsn8[/ame]

What an appalling display. If only they cared about winning, these young whippersnappers with all their tattoos.

I was watching the NBA when CBS tape-delayed playoff games.

Which is relevant to a discussion about the 2011 NBA how?

 

[dave]

Meh.
I am not saying every NBA player today is a lazy fuck.
I like watching Blake Griffin.
But today's level of competitiveness doesn't touch the 80s or early 90s.
You never heard of players dying while jerking off and driving at the same time in the 80s.