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Kevin Garnett or Tim Duncan

Sort of a homer pick here, but I would go with Garnett. If I have one guy to build my team around and I have to pick either Duncan or Garnett, I'm going with Garnett. Duncan may edge out Garnett skill wise, but his leadership skills cannot be touched by Duncan. I think if you couple KG's skill with his leadership abilities, KG edges out Duncan. You can argue that Duncan has come up bigger in the clutch, but how many times has KG had the opportunity to come through in the clutch in truly BIG games?

leadership????

IMO duncan provides way more leadership to his team

but hey yelling and making faces to your teammates must work so who am I to question :shot:
 
Sort of a homer pick here, but I would go with Garnett. If I have one guy to build my team around and I have to pick either Duncan or Garnett, I'm going with Garnett. Duncan may edge out Garnett skill wise, but his leadership skills cannot be touched by Duncan. I think if you couple KG's skill with his leadership abilities, KG edges out Duncan. You can argue that Duncan has come up bigger in the clutch, but how many times has KG had the opportunity to come through in the clutch in truly BIG games?

Yeah because Duncan clearly wasn't the leader of those Championship teams San Antonio had(minus 1999).................. Give me a break. Garnett thumps his chest, screams, and makes faces and all of a sudden people cream themselves over how much of a leader he is.

He was doing the same shit in Minnesota and it didn't matter. He comes to Boston, finally wins, and he's the greatest leader ever. His whole act is over hyped.

Yeah he's a great leader but just because Duncan doesn't act like a jackass at times doesn't mean he isn't leading his team in a different, yet just as effective or more effective way.
 
Yeah because Duncan clearly wasn't the leader of those Championship teams San Antonio had(minus 1999).................. Give me a break. Garnett thumps his chest, screams, and makes faces and all of a sudden people cream themselves over how much of a leader he is.

He was doing the same shit in Minnesota and it didn't matter. He comes to Boston, finally wins, and he's the greatest leader ever. His whole act is over hyped.

Yeah he's a great leader but just because Duncan doesn't act like a jackass at times doesn't mean he isn't leading his team in a different, yet just as effective or more effective way.

I've always hated when people say that about any athlete. They see them going nuts on the court or field and automatically assume that they are a leader. Just because someone is obnoxious and goes nuts when something happens does not make them a leader.
 
I've always hated when people say that about any athlete. They see them going nuts on the court or field and automatically assume that they are a leader. Just because someone is obnoxious and goes nuts when something happens does not make them a leader.

Dennis Rodman was the leader of the Bulls 2nd 3-Peat
 
People also have to remember that KG Carried a horrible Timberwolves team into the playoffs pretty much by himself several times. Duncan has never had to carry his entire team, he's always had help somewhere, weather it be David Robinson, Manu, or Parker
 
People also have to remember that KG Carried a horrible Timberwolves team into the playoffs pretty much by himself several times. Duncan has never had to carry his entire team, he's always had help somewhere, weather it be David Robinson, Manu, or Parker

Okay, but by that same token can't you say that Duncan's presence has made those other guys better?

That's why I hate those arguments. You could always argue that the constant factor in the Spurs success has been Duncan and thus Parker and Manu are in large part by-products of Pop's system and Duncan. Duncan won a title before they got there, and their first title together Manu and Parker were largely unknown to much of the basketball world.
 
Okay, but by that same token can't you say that Duncan's presence has made those other guys better?

That's why I hate those arguments. You could always argue that the constant factor in the Spurs success has been Duncan and thus Parker and Manu are in large part by-products of Pop's system and Duncan. Duncan won a title before they got there, and their first title together Manu and Parker were largely unknown to much of the basketball world.

Like i said before he had Manu and Parker he was a twin tower with
Robinson, he's never been on a bad team in his career.
 
Tim Duncan...he IS the greatest PF to ever play the game...

So says me...

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BTW, Parker and Ginobli are the players they are in large part because of Duncan, they didn't arrive there as all-stars. And not to mention, when Duncan himself came in Robinson wasn't nearly the player he had been.

As has been said, KG has an awesome skill set but Duncan is the better player. Having a guy dominate the post, commanding double-teams opening up the floor for everyone else >>>> being good at a lot of other things and shying away from the ball in the clutch. And this from a guy who loves KG.
 
People also have to remember that KG Carried a horrible Timberwolves team into the playoffs pretty much by himself several times. Duncan has never had to carry his entire team, he's always had help somewhere, weather it be David Robinson, Manu, or Parker

And? Does having better teammates some how diminish what Duncan has accomplished? Do we use the same argument against Magic, Jordan, Bird, Russell, KAJ, etc? It doesn't matter...Is KG some how better, because he had worse teammates? The fact remains Duncan carried championship caliber teams and KG carried mediocre to good teams. However, the argument could be made that he didn't even carry that Wolves team with Sprewell and Cassell and we all know he didn't carry the Celtics.
 
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But can't that be a plus... the fact he's never been on a bad team?

Yeah. I don't get it. Duncan's never been on a bad team. So what? Isn't that a credit to Duncan? Garnett gets credit for being the best guy on a lot of crappy teams yet Duncan gets penalized for being an MVP on good teams...that were good mainly due to the fact that Duncan is the best PF ever. It's a retarded argument to make.
 
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The Spurs were a playoff team without Duncan. Robinson was consistently making it to the Playoffs, but got injured the season before Duncan went to the Spurs, and they got him in the Lottery. Robinson came back from injury, and they got Duncan as well. Then they won championships.
They won the with Duncan being the go to guy on that team. As evidenced by his Finals MVP Trophy.
 
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