Kyle Orton is fucking terrible

[steeljake]

of course cutler will make the playoffs. he can score 40 points a game, the problem in the past was so could anyone playing against the broncos defense.

 

[Fox1994]

:marshmellow:

Haha. Nothing can stop us, now. jk. But really, though, I like the sound of this. Orton's sucking, Simms is sucking, the Raiders QBs did pretty well... all I need now is for Tyler Thigpen to take Matt Cassel's starting job and my NFL preseason world will be complete.

 

[Bear Pand]

Even if the Bears make the playoffs Orton and Cutler are still gonna have the same # of rings at the end of the season.

 

[Hasselbeck]

Cheer up Denver fans.. that Top 10 first round you gave us netted you 1 solo tackle and a 27 yard punt return

:jonesy:

 

[Bear Pand]

Orton might be ok by midseason.

For those of you that are clueless, didn't watch the game, didn't notice Orton moving up and down the field at will, and actually think preseason games are meaningful, he did some really good things, he just made 3 incredibly bad decisions.

Considering McDaniels turned Cassel from a laughing stock into a better QB than Cutler by the time the season ended, he's well ahead of the curb with Orton.

 

[Realist]

It couldnt have been that the 49ers secondary was just on last night?

 

[JayDizzle]

Orton might be ok by midseason.

For those of you that are clueless, didn't watch the game, didn't notice Orton moving up and down the field at will, and actually think preseason games are meaningful, he did some really good things, he just made 3 incredibly bad decisions.

Considering McDaniels turned Cassel from a laughing stock into a better QB than Cutler by the time the season ended, he's well ahead of the curb with Orton.

Aside from maybe a consistantly disgruntled Brandon Marshall and unseasoned Eddie Marshall to throw to, Orton's choices for receiver are shit.

Cassel had Randy Moss and Wes Welker to throw to, in a good system that will take years to develop for the Broncos as opposed to an already ready-to-go N.E.'s.

If their is a "curb", heres hoping the Broncos don't step off of it and fall flat on their face.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Orton might be ok by midseason.

For those of you that are clueless, didn't watch the game, didn't notice Orton moving up and down the field at will, and actually think preseason games are meaningful, he did some really good things, he just made 3 incredibly bad decisions.

Considering McDaniels turned Cassel from a laughing stock into a better QB than Cutler by the time the season ended, he's well ahead of the curb with Orton.

Orton looked great on the first-drive then made a horrible throw in the end zone and looked horrible for the rest of the game. Im not sure what you were watching.. but thats pretty much exactly how it went down. As has already been said in this thread.. Orton turns to shit after doing something dumb.. probably a confidence issue, but more likely he just flat out sucks and only can play good for short periods of time.

Kyle Orton does not have a New England team to help his progress. Im glad Bronco fans (and Panda) are optimistic, but I promise you that optimism will be crushed in no time.

 

[FedEx227]

Orton looked great on the first-drive then made a horrible throw in the end zone and looked horrible for the rest of the game. Im not sure what you were watching.. but thats pretty much exactly how it went down. As has already been said in this thread.. Orton turns to shit after doing something dumb.. probably a confidence issue, but more likely he just flat out sucks and only can play good for short periods of time.

Kyle Orton does not have a New England team to help his progress. Im glad Bronco fans (and Panda) are optimistic, but I promise you that optimism will be crushed in no time.

Probably around the time they realize that Orton can't throw the ball more than 15 yards accurately.

 

[BroncoBlue]

Kyle Orton has always been fucking terrible. If anyone needs luck, its Bronco fans.

I, once again, guarantee that Cutler makes the playoffs this year.

That's what I said before week 14 last year and week 17 in 2006.

Fact is Jay Cuntler doesn't really do that great after mid season and hasn't shown he can win a game on the big stage, i.e. a playoff like game.

Sure he could always put up good numbers, but then again he had a Hall of Fame coach and offensive mastermind calling plays and loading up the with offensive weapons.

 

[BroncoBlue]

Orton's a victim of the garbage QB development that's been happening in Chicago since the start of their franchise. I'm going to be upset if they fuck it up for Jay Cutler too.

As far as the game yesterday went, Orton drove the length of the field on the first drive and than made the bad throw in the endzone, and really it was also a good play by the defender. Orton's second drive he drove 30 yards and then ended in another terrible throw. The third drive was garbage for Orton after the 1 play. The fourth drive covered three first downs before punting. Not sure what you were watching, but hardly "horrible". He moved the chains and had a very good 3rd down conversion. He made 3 glaring mistakes.

If he doesn't fix those terrible mistakes he made, he won't be the QB in Denver, simple as that. I wouldn't say he was horrible, he just makes idiotic Brian Griese mistakes. But he'll have to iron that out if he wants to QB this team..

Please don't back up Orton... He's a back up QB at best... He's not the long term solution at QB for Denver, probably not even the entire season solution this year...

 

[BroncoBlue]

I'm backing up McDaniels. Fuck Orton. McDaniels knows more about QB's than any one of us do here. Right now he's staying with Orton. If the time comes to move on to Simms this year, then so be it.

I surely don't think he's the QB of the future for Denver, but that's not of major concern for us right now. We need to develop a defense and special teams. Then I think McDaniels has the team he wants and he'll be on a shorter leesh as far as the QB position goes. Hopefully he finds a QB that can actually score in the redzone and not turn it over. We haven't seen one of those here in Denver since Elway.

McDaniel's is like a fuckin woman he thinks he can fix damage goods....

 

[BroncoBlue]

McDaniels has a great system and anyone who couldn't see that yesterday wasn't watching the game.

On a sidenote, looks like Jay Cutler's accuracy down the field hasn't improved any in the offseason.

Why are you on this guys nuts its game one of the preseason I don't care if god himself came down and ran McDaniel's system to perfection I'd still be skeptical because it still fucking game one of the preseason!

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

That's what I said before week 14 last year and week 17 in 2006.

Fact is Jay Cuntler doesn't really do that great after mid season and hasn't shown he can win a game on the big stage, i.e. a playoff like game.

Sure he could always put up good numbers, but then again he had a Hall of Fame coach and offensive mastermind calling plays and loading up the with offensive weapons.

Again.. what else did you want Cutler to do with a defense that couldnt stop the other team? Cutler wasnt even playing bad during the Broncos meltdown.. the defense was just especially horrendous.

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Orton's a victim of the garbage QB development that's been happening in Chicago since the start of their franchise. I'm going to be upset if they fuck it up for Jay Cutler too.

As far as the game yesterday went, Orton drove the length of the field on the first drive and than made the bad throw in the endzone, and really it was also a good play by the defender. Orton's second drive he drove 30 yards and then ended in another terrible throw. The third drive was garbage for Orton after the 1 play. The fourth drive covered three first downs before punting. Not sure what you were watching, but hardly "horrible". He moved the chains and had a very good 3rd down conversion. He made 3 glaring mistakes.

If he doesn't fix those terrible mistakes he made, he won't be the QB in Denver, simple as that. I wouldn't say he was horrible, he just makes idiotic Brian Griese mistakes. But he'll have to iron that out if he wants to QB this team..

9/16 with 3 INTs.. one of which was in the end zone isnt horrible? Oh.. ok.

I see the standard has really dropped..

 

[BroncoBlue]

McDaniels has done everything right as far as the camps go. He even works on defense and special teams a little bit. I bet Dove Valley hasn't seen those drills since 1998.

Actually I live right next to Dove Valley so I go to training camp 5-6 times a year and I've always seen them practice Spacial teams and Defense. The difference between Shanahan and McDaniel's is that camp is 10x more physical they have been hitting since day one.

 

[BroncoBlue]

Again.. what else did you want Cutler to do with a defense that couldnt stop the other team? Cutler wasnt even playing bad during the Broncos meltdown.. the defense was just especially horrendous.

I know the guy is a talented kid but it's still early is all I'm saying so don't get so damn cocky. Trust me I've been there done that with Cuntler and he let me down. The D was bad but all he had to do last year is throw one fucking TD vs the shitty Bills at home...

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

2 TD's 4 int's, a QB rating hovering in the low 70's, and a ypp of around 6.3 isn't bad? Maybe not for Chicago Bears QB's, but not the rest of the NFL.

He flamed out just as bad as the defense towards the end of year, but then again, that's what he did best in big games.

LOL the guy was playing with absolutely no running game and playing from way behind in 2 of those 3 games. When your chucking and behind its a shit ton more likely that you're going to throw some picks.

PS if you count his rushing TDs he actually had 4 during that stretch. Fuck playing him at QB.. lets put him at RB.

 

[Bear Pand]

Good thing Cutler played well tonight to back up all this trash talking Bears fans are doing.

Wait wait I mean good thing Cutler left the game before he could throw 2 more INTs.

Orton's Passer Rating - 32.6
Cutler's Passer Rating - 30.8

 

[BroncoBlue]

LOL the guy was playing with absolutely no running game and playing from way behind in 2 of those 3 games. When your chucking and behind its a shit ton more likely that you're going to throw some picks.

PS if you count his rushing TDs he actually had 4 during that stretch. Fuck playing him at QB.. lets put him at RB.

If you know Cuntler at all you know he's going to throw a lot of INT's no matter if he's playing from behind or with no running game or defense. He's not going to have less INT's this year just because CHI has a good D and a good running game, trust me. He prides himself on his rocket arm and he throws balls that he shouldn't... He doesn't take much stock in his INT total and often jokes about how he makes dumb throws that he shouldn't because he thinks his arm is that good. He always makes parralles and compares himself to Brett Favre in this area. You'll find out soon enough...