Lane Kiffin new USC Coach

[Hasselbeck]

If Chow does wind up at USC.. Matt Barkley is going to be a star

As for Kiffin, yeah he's a douchebag but how could you turn down this job? I doubt he foresaw Carroll leaving to the NFL.. and USC was more than likely his dream job. Kiffin should thank Del Rio though because he's really the only reason Kiffin even got this gig.

But wow, USC's staff is going to be loaded if they land Chow.

 

[riley420]

Save it.

Big time programs do not have the rap sheet Meyer's guys have at UF. Most aren't even close.

Meyer's guys get in toruble for assault, theft, etc. On teh flip side Notre Dame's biggest controversey since Weis showed up was Clausen getting busted for buying booze at 19.

*EDIT* My mistake Darrell Hand propositioned a prostitute and Weis suspened him 3 games.

Find me a "big time program" with a rap sheet like this then we can talk.






There's also a right and wrong way todo things...Meyer has the rep for being way less than truthful.

All I really need to say about a lot of the kids on that rap sheet of yours are from Pahokee, Belle Glade and other shit hole central Florida high schools. They're a different breed out there. If you knew the area, you'd understand a little better.

And as for all that NCAA shit, you need to take some things in life with a grain of salt. Do you really think that Tim Tebow called some random kid from the Heisman ceremony to convince him to come to UF? "Hey, bud...if you come to UF you can be just like me!"

Get real.

I'm not saying that Meyer's untouchable, I'm simply saying that none of those kids are playing at UF right now. And sour grapes are sour.

 

[Fox1994]

I'm still hoping Jesse Scroggins becomes our QB of the future...

http://rivals.yahoo.com/usc/football/recruiting/player-Jesse-Scroggins-95019

 

[Fox1994]

haha. Norm is apparently, not official yet. Hope he becomes official.

 

[FirstTimer]

All I really need to say about a lot of the kids on that rap sheet of yours are from Pahokee, Belle Glade and other shit hole central Florida high schools. They're a different breed out there. If you knew the area, you'd understand a little better.

Ok, and simply because they are available doesn't mean Meyer needs to recruit them...plus once he does, he shouldn't be allowing the type of shit to go on that he does. You can't knowingly recruit troubled kids then when they get in trouble just wash your hands of it and say "Well they come from shitty areas so it's to be expected." You have to have higher standards than that once you bring kids into the program in trying to help them correct their lives. A few blips on the radar is one thing but 20+ issues? That's getting to be ridiculous.

And as for all that NCAA shit, you need to take some things in life with a grain of salt. Do you really think that Tim Tebow called some random kid from the Heisman ceremony to convince him to come to UF? "Hey, bud...if you come to UF you can be just like me!"

Yeah because I mean Tebow clearly called some random kid on his own. I'm sure Meyer didn't tell him to call....are you denying it happened or saying it's not a big deal?

Meyer is a slimeball. Deal with it. If a phone call after the Heisman ceremony that violates NCAA rules is the smallest thing you can pick on it should tell you about the larger issues with the guy.

I'm not saying that Meyer's untouchable, I'm simply saying that none of those kids are playing at UF right now.

Gee, I wonder why................

And sour grapes are sour.

Sour grapes? Ha. I didn't want Meyer anywhere near Notre Dame when Weis got canned and I openly said that here. I didn't know enough about him back in 2004 when Willingham was let go, and frankly didn't care about him not taking the job because of that fact. I was pumped when Weis came to ND. I really don't care, and never have, that Meyer didn't choose to come here.

 

[ralaw]

Sour grapes? Ha. I didn't want Meyer anywhere near Notre Dame when Weis got canned and I openly said that here. I didn't know enough about him back in 2004 when Willingham was let go, and frankly didn't care about him not taking the job because of that fact. I was pumped when Weis came to ND. I really don't care, and never have, that Meyer didn't choose to come here.

I believe (I may be wrong) Riley's "sour grapes" comment had more to do with the recruits that are no longer on the team. Basically, while being recruited and being on the team everything thing is fine, but as soon as they're released from the scholarships they're crying about how thing went down.

 

[FirstTimer]

I believe (I may be wrong) Riley's "sour grapes" comment had more to do with the recruits that are no longer on the team. Basically, while being recruited and being on the team everything thing is fine, but as soon as they're released from the scholarships they're crying about how thing went down.

What would that have to do with players that end up going to other schools, that chose to, when they weren't released from scholarships by Florida telling stories about Meyer undercutting them when they didn't choose Florida?

Plus none of thoe guys on the rap sheet have any right to cry about how things went down. They were busted by the police. The point of bringing those guys up was to show the type of player Meyer brought in to begin with, not to show that they whined about Meyer after getting let go for wielding an AK47.

 

[ralaw]

What would that have to do with players that end up going to other schools, that chose to, when they weren't released from scholarships by Florida telling stories about Meyer undercutting them when they didn't choose Florida?

Plus none of thoe guys on the rap sheet have any right to cry about how things went down. They were busted by the police. The point of bringing those guys up was to show the type of player Meyer brought in to begin with, not to show that they whined about Meyer after getting let go for wielding an AK47.

If they have the talent and can qualify I think most coaches take risk on questionable character guys. I don’t have a problem with that, because college football is full of guys who once being removed from situations have changed for the better. However, oftentimes that is overlooked by the media and public. I know for a fact that Meyer has what is pretty much a honor system built in to his program that rewards guys for various activities on and off the field, so he is doing something right. As I mentioned earlier the business of recruiting is pretty sleazy, people do underhanded things and people get their feelings hurt, but this is part of the process.

 

[FirstTimer]

If they have the talent and can qualify I think most coaches take risk on questionable character guys. I don’t have a problem with that, because college football is full of guys who once being removed from situations have changed for the better. However, oftentimes that is overlooked by the media and public. I know for a fact that Meyer has what is pretty much a honor system built in to his program that rewards guys for various activities on and off the field, so he is doing something right. As I mentioned earlier the business of recruiting is pretty sleazy, people do underhanded things and people get their feelings hurt, but this is part of the process.

I don't think it's working very well....

 

[FirstTimer]

Jealous Notre Dame fan is jealous.

Notre Dame will likely remain irrelevant notwithstanding their NBC contract.

LOL. Did you even read what I wrote? I didn't know who the hell Urban Meyer was in 2004. I didn't even know he was a former ND assistant. So there was no way I even cared he turned down the job. This year as soon as his name came up I said in any thread on the issue that I didn't want him as the head coach because he was a slimeball. It has nothing to do with "jealousy", it has everything to do with not wanting a dirtball like Meyer as HC of my team.

As for Notre Dame being "irrelevant", I find it odd that they are so "irrelevant" yet the Weis firing and the Kelly hire was leading news nationally for nearly 2 months. Yeah, noone cares about Notre Dame.........

 

[Rayman]

I think Leslie Chow is:

Too-da-loo muthafuckaaaaaaaaaaaaaas!!!

.

 

[FirstTimer]

On the field, ND is irrelevant. They're mediocre in other words.

In 2005 they were a "Bush Push" away from more than llikely playing for the National Title.

Notre Dame has proven over the last few years they can score with anyone in the NCAA and can get the talent in. If they can get a guy who can coach in general and especially on defense Notre Dame will be more than relevant on the field.

Meyer is successful as hell and it's that success that drives your hatred more than anything else.

There are plenty of very successful coaches in the NCAA that I have a lot of respect for. Meyer's success has no bearing on my "hatred" of him. It's the way he runs his program and his players. Quit making shit up about the way I feel about something when you have no clue. If Meyer had no success at the college level and I'd still think he was a classless dirtbag.

As ralaw noted, recruiting in the top-tier is slimy by it's very nature. Meyer is no worse than the SEC mean.

Let's see the proof of that then. I showed you Meyer and hit teams rap sheet. Hell, even Lane Kiffin's BS at Tennessee doesn't compare.

Oh, ND is popular [hence the NBC contract] because of their history and of course the Catholic component.

ND was popular before NBC was even broadcasting their games and even if NBC quit showing their games you don't think ESPN, ABC, etc wouldn't jump at the chance to show as many ND games as possible. It's not like ND is only on National TV because of NBC. Against Air Forice in 2006 was the first time ND hadn't had a game on a national station since 1991. Notre Dame has had some successful seasons recently, 1998, 2000, 2005, 2006, but haven't had sustained success for varying reasons. Mostly though as a direct result of coaching, or lack thereof. If Notre Dame ever gets the coaching issue figured out we will be fine.

 

[FirstTimer]

2006, when ND was embarrassed by LSU?

Read better, I said 2005. Try again. And yes Notre Dame has has issues on defense...which I already pointed out has been their biggest consistant problem for the last 4-5 years. Plus those teams were thin as hell across the board from Willinghams awful recruiting/development efforts.

Weis can recruit like hell but couldn't develop defensive talent. Healso had trouble recruiting defenisivly until really the last two seasons but it was too late to save his job, plus he couldn't find anyone to coach up the players.

Coaching isn't the big problem; it's the higher standards. The athletes one needs to compete at a high level are often kids that come from shaky backgrounds.

Look again at Sportsbuck post earlier about how ND fares each year recruiting wise. It's coaching. ND can and has competed with anyone on the offensive side of the ball for the better part of Weis' tenure there. Defensively it has always been an issue. That needs to change.

ND is popular because of their history and the Catholic thing, which is why they are on TV all the time.

Yeah I'm sure the network execs care that Notre Dame is Catholic.

:eyeroll:

Notre Dame is one of the most nationally prominant programs in football and has been since the 1920's.

Notre Dame has had some levels of success recently, but has also had a run of coaches that are not up to par of what is needed at the school. Hopefully Brian Kelly solves that because Notre Dame can and does bring in the talent needed to be competitive. They just need coaching.

Yeah, a fine second-tier team basking in the exposure their talent level doesn't justify.

LULZ. Whatever, see you on New Years Day next year. /brashness

Notre Dame's talent level is fine. We are sending two 1st rnd draft picks from our offense to the NFL. Floyd and Rudolph are both 1st rounders as well when they declare.

Defensively the talent is there but it's so undeveloped that it's not even funny.

 

[FirstTimer]

Like I said, a combination of factors like history, the Irish thing and the Catholic thing all contribute to boring/irrelevant ND games being on national TV when better games should be on.

Would be tough seeing as other conferences already have TV tie ins. What games would you prefer? Florida vs FCS-West?

 

[Sportsbuck]

2006, when ND was embarrassed by LSU? Coaching isn't the big problem; it's the higher standards. The athletes one needs to compete at a high level are often kids that come from shaky backgrounds.

ND recruiting class rankings (Rivals):
2006 - #8
2007 - #8
2008 - #2
2009 - #21
Avg: 9.75

.....................

 

[FirstTimer]

You know that's a false choice. no?

Why? Do they have FCS-South scheduled this year?

 

[Sportsbuck]

Jay Mariotti's twitter:

I don't care if I get suspended for saying this: Fuck Lane Kiffin

 

[Bear Pand]

lol thats awesome

is that his real verified twitter account though?

 

[Sportsbuck]

lol thats awesome

is that his real verified twitter account though?

I'm not sure, I saw it on another board.

 

[Fox1994]

So probably not.