LOST

[CR Knight]

so back in the MM days, a poster there mentioned a book that had a similar storyline as LOST, but would not mention the ending of the book for fear of spoilers if LOST turned out the same way as the plot of the book did. Does anybody remember the name of the book or does that person post at VSN now?

Stephen King's Dark Tower series

 

[Archbomber]

That fact bugs you but not that the other people did survive?

Obviously it did not go off as a big explosion, but it moved them back into 2007. While Jack figured it would send them back to 2004 before the island (it did in the alternate timeline), their conscious is now in 2007 instead of 1977.

Thank you that cleared everything up

 

[BUCK3YE5]

very interesting...not much more else i can say. more confusion...as always.

 

[mgoblue2290]

What just happened.

 

[Sean]

i think the 04 time-line is what WOULD happen if the bomb really didnt go off, like someone else said, the Island doesnt want them to leave, and if they did, they'd be back...again

 

[CR Knight]

from Lostpedia:

Sun Kwon and Jin Kwon

* Original timeline: Sun and Jin are unhappily married. After an aborted escape attempt, Sun joins Jin in boarding Oceanic Flight 815 for their planned vacation/business trip to Los Angeles, wherein Jin was to deliver a watch for Sun's father, Mr. Paik. Both Sun and Jin are wearing their wedding rings.

* Flashsideways timeline: Sun and Jin are not married. Sun is called Ms. Paik, not Mrs. Kwon, by the customs officer at LAX. Neither Jin nor Sun are wearing wedding rings. Sun also does not appear to understand English.

HOLY...SHIT!!

 

[Sean]

i think she KNOWS English, but bc their relationship is on the rocks, she thinks hes better off in jail, and doesnt wanna save him

 

[Epidemik]

I Jizzed.. I had to DVR it so when i got home i watched it on my big screen with surround sound

Juliette Died... However it did seem a bit odd on her "just" dying... i have a feeling she still has a lot do with the series and her role is not finished

Sayid instantly became one of the more important characters of the story

Enjoyed all the season 1 / 2 faces

Mind Fucked in a Ohhhh SOooo Goooood Way

 

[Champ]

When Juliet was talking crazy me and my cousin believe that she went to the other reality first then came back to the normal one after the bomb.

 

[Epidemik]

Jack's wife was on Boston Legal at the same time she was on LOST (even though she wasnt a premier character if Im not mistaken)... I just dont want to believe that is the last we have seen of Juliette. LOST is the exception

 

[mgoblue2290]

from Lostpedia:



HOLY...SHIT!!

Yeah, Jin also clearly is in some sort of underground crime type deal too with all that money in his suitcase.

 

[Champ]

Jin and Sun got a divorce

 

[Realist]

I don't know, she is in a new series on ABC.

Which sucks so she need to come back to LOSt lol

 

[wingsfan77]

In case anyone hasn't read:

http://darkufo.blogspot.com/2010/02/things-i-noticed-la-x-by-vozzek69.html

 

[mgoblue2290]

LMAO at your avatar. I seriously didn't stop laughing for 5 minutes at that shit.

When I read what it said while searching for a new avatar, I imagined myself pissing lightning and knew it was meant to be my new avatar.

 

[BroncoBlue]

-First off I do not think Sayid is Jacob. If you notice Smokey can only replicate people who's dead bodies are on the island, i.e. Eko's brother, Jack's dad (maybe), and Locke. Even though Locke is walking around the island Locke's dead body is still there. Sayid rose from the Dead, which something new on LOST, if and only if Christan Shepard ends up being smoky and not a Zombie.

- If you notice the Others made a comment about the Temple water "not being clear" and then the guy the Last Samurai goes and cuts his hand and dips it in the water. I think the water is the fountain of youth and is suppose to heal, but for what ever reason (unknown at this point) it's not working the same way. The Others looked just as surprised as the 815ers when Sayid rose from the dead.

-The bomb did go off! Juliet says it worked and is right. I think the combination of the magnetic anomaly and the bomb caused a time travel warp, hence Jin's explanation and why they end up at the same time as Evil Locke and Sun.

-This is where it gets tricky to understands though. IMO I understood it as Jack's plan worked and he did prevent the plane from crashing which intern created a Parrnell universe which is depicted from the "Flashsidways" we are seeing. Think about it we had flashbacks and flashforwards and now flashsideways. Even though both Parrnell universes have the same people it's not exactly the same because it can't be. If they never land on the island Jack never throws the bomb down the hole because he was never in 1974. Because he was never in 1974 the magnetic anomaly goes off and sinks the island. If you look closely at the beginning when we see the island under water there is clues to suggest this true. Dharmaville is there and the statue is just a foot. Dharmaville was constructed in the early 70's to late 60's so we know the island got at least that far in time.

-Basically Miles was right, Jack was the incident. If Jack did nothing then the Swan hatch would have never been constructed and the island would have been sucked underwater by the magnetic anomaly as depicted in the Flashsideways at the begging.

*These my original thoughts and not clouded with others theories, so I could be completely wrong.

 

[BroncoBlue]

http://www.cracked.com/funny-39-lost/

Check out this article on cracked.com. Pretty funny.

Worth reading simply because they have a hot picture of Kate.

That pics been around forever! Heres some old gifs though!

 

[St. Francisco]

They should rename this show to "Holy Fuck, Did That Just Happen?!" It's much more fitting.

Also, I'm getting pretty pissed off at all of these "All questions will finally be answered" previews. I have more fucking questions in those first two hours than I did in the entire previous five seasons.

Now, to my thoughts:

1. The bomb...I think it goes off and doesn't at the same time. In the parallel universe, it goes off and everything takes a different tangent hence the flash sideways. In the other reality, it only sends the guys back to their current time. So, everything still happens as it did in the show.

2. Hmmm...my first thoughts were Sayid was being controlled by smoke monster, but Jacob is a damn good theory too, especially considering the fact that the ash has been thrown, and all defenses are up, so smokey shouldn't be able to get into the temple. Perhaps this is why Jacob had Hurley bring Sayid to the temple. So he could inhabit Sayid's body under the protection of his peopel.

I think he [Jacob] intervenes at the most drastic times, such as when Locke fell out of the window, or Sayid was about to get run over, but Nadia got hit.

Tonight, I actually noticed that with every single one of them, Jacob actually comes into physical contact with. He touches Kate's nose, holds hands with Jin and Sun, touches Locke and wakes him up, hands Jack the candy and brushes his finger. Maybe he somehow gives them a special protection at that point to get them safely to the island when the plane crashed.

now wondering, if that temple has been there the whole time, since they first episode when they crashed. Its almost like the wall is so high, you just can't see the temple. Lot of my friends are wondering if those people are from the Black Rock.

The temple has obviously been there for a long time. The smoke monster lives underneath it, to be close at hand to kill all those fuckers if Jacob's protection every gives up. Plus, that's where they took little Ben when he got shot. He was put in that pool, and revived.

I think it was interesting that The Man in the Black mentioned Richard looked different w/o chains. Not sure if he meant literally or theoretically, that he killed Jacob and is not under his command anymore.

Richard has been shown before in earlier flashes bound in chains...the theory that he was a slave on the Black Rock is a good one, probably true. And he's just been living ever since, protected by Jacob, and not aging.

-First off I do not think Sayid is Jacob. If you notice Smokey can only replicate people who's dead bodies are on the island, i.e. Eko's brother, Jack's dad (maybe), and Locke. Even though Locke is walking around the island Locke's dead body is still there. Sayid rose from the Dead, which something new on LOST, if and only if Christan Shepard ends up being smoky and not a Zombie.

Wait...what? Sayid's dead body is on the island, so if we assume Jacob has the same powers as smokey, then this is certainly possible. Also, smokey doesn't just replicate, he retains all memories. Remember that smokey told Ben the last thought running through Locke's head when he died.

If you notice the Others made a comment about the Temple water "not being clear" and then the guy the Last Samurai goes and cuts his hand and dips it in the water. I think the water is the fountain of youth and is suppose to heal, but for what ever reason (unknown at this point) it's not working the same way. The Others looked just as surprised as the 815ers when Sayid rose from the dead.

Indeed...I think back to when Locke "rises from the dead" in season five, and Ben tells Sun, "I've seen a lot of things on this island. But dead is dead." For this reason, I think Sayid is dead, so he's either smokey or Jacob now. Yeah, pretty straightforward on the water...changes color, and it's not working, but they try anyway and it doesn't save Sayid. I think Jacob's death took away it's healing powers.

This is where it gets tricky to understands though. IMO I understood it as Jack's plan worked and he did prevent the plane from crashing which intern created a Parrnell universe which is depicted from the "Flashsidways" we are seeing. Think about it we had flashbacks and flashforwards and now flashsideways. Even though both Parrnell universes have the same people it's not exactly the same because it can't be. If they never land on the island Jack never throws the bomb down the hole because he was never in 1974. Because he was never in 1974 the magnetic anomaly goes off and sinks the island. If you look closely at the beginning when we see the island under water there is clues to suggest this true. Dharmaville is there and the statue is just a foot. Dharmaville was constructed in the early 70's to late 60's so we know the island got at least that far in time.

Here's how I see it. Everything from the beginning of time right up until the bomb incident is exactly the same in both universes. Remember that while the Lost guys are in Dharma's past, it's actually their present-tense. Anyway, so is parallel universe, the island sinks from the bomb, everything keeps going and going. The world continues. In island universe, they are simply transported back to present tense, and life continues like it was in the first five seasons. What I'm trying to say is that Jack never has to go to the island in order to go to the past in order to set off the bomb because that happens in Lost universe, and now Jack Part 2 exists in parallel universe. So his life isn't altered by that.

The thing I have a hard time with is if they blow up the future, how is Locke still alive in parallel universe? Didn't Jacob heal him when he fell out of that window? How can that happen in parallel universe if the island is gone? Or perhaps my other theory is right in that Jacob never actually heals Locke...he just marks him, and gives him protection so that he may reach the island.

Basically Miles was right, Jack was the incident. If Jack did nothing then the Swan hatch would have never been constructed and the island would have been sucked underwater by the magnetic anomaly as depicted in the Flashsideways at the begging.

Eh, don't agree with that. The bomb caused the island to sink. Basically, I think what happens is at that point, the island sinks in one reality. But in the other reality, all those guys just disappear, and the Dharma folks keep going on about their hatch business.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

The Man In Black or the Smoke Monster (same guy) takes the form of dead people on the island (hence why Locke had to come back to the island...dead). However, Jacob's "existence" (not his terrestrial being) can take the body of a person when they enter the pool. Sayid never actually died, hence why Miles couldn't hear him when he was unconscious.

The two storylines now are interesting. You have the battle between good and evil on the island with the Smoke Monster wanting "to go home"...and I assume everyone with it...however, has been unable to (for whatever reason) and attributes it to Locke, because out of everyone on the island only Locke wanted to stay on the island and not go back to their crappy lives. Thus, the two storylines now...the battle on the island and the parallel universe where the Losties go back home and everything is perfect.

Kate escapes the law and is free and also meets Sawyer, who helps her escape.
Real Locke meets Jack with the hope of being able to walk again.
Hurley isn't the unluckiest man on the earth any longer, he is actually the luckiest.
Rose and Bernard are together and as in-love as ever.
Charlie and Boone never die and Boone is also free from his sister (he leaves her in Australia).
Desmond is on the plane and on his way home to see his girl.

How all of this ends on the final season is anyone's guess...the big question of "why" may never be explained...all I can presume right now is that it is a battle between good and evil...why? Don't know, nobody does but the writers.

 

[Buzzman]

One thing you need to take notice, the Smoke Monster doesnt take the form of anyone who has been buried. Every single person he mimmicks was never buried. Jackss dad, Mr Eckos brother, Bens daughter, and John Locke. My dad and I think it cant take control of buried people.