Madden 25

[CCBrink]

Wanna talk about gimmics... Madden 07 - You can play as an offensive lineman and then time warp to your RB in the middle of a run! So glad they didn't fix the sim engine so we don't have multiple RB's breaking 2,000 yards every year or the ridiculously increasing cap during the off-season every season which allows you to resign everyone and then sign all the best free agents! I'd much rather play as my LG.

 

[JimLeavy59]

Yes that would be viable option if you wanted the same PS2 graphics and franchise simmed stats. I personally don't want that and I want a more advanced game than the PS2 madden. Like I said they wasted about 5-6 years of development.

You are right about the competition though. If they had it they would have more urgency to make a better game. I understand they do have a more lax and wait and see approach in some cases but I think they've picked it up a little bit in recent years. But criticizing them for taking things out of the game is stupid because it's not the same game. Nothing was taken out it just wasn't put in in the first place because of the wasted years. Now it is.

And Argath is overrating what PS2 madden was and it's comical. Madden 13 is better than PS2 Madden ever was and PS2 Madden bored me by 07 and I only started playing Madden in 05.

:lol2:

 

[Glenbino]

Wanna talk about gimmics... Madden 07 - You can play as an offensive lineman and then time warp to your RB in the middle of a run! So glad they didn't fix the sim engine so we don't have multiple RB's breaking 2,000 yards every year or the ridiculously increasing cap during the off-season every season which allows you to resign everyone and then sign all the best free agents! I'd much rather play as my LG.

Brb.. gonna go drop $15 so I can use this Calvin Johnson card a few more times in MUT.

At least the PS2 gimmickry wasn't a total cash grab.

 

[ram29jackson]

 

[krulmichael]

I personally find those after play "physics" humorous. Don't bother me. :dunno:

 

[dave]

Of course I am just screaming into empty space here, but the absolute #1 priority for Madden should be gameplay. NCAA draft classes, fine. 32-team control, fine ... but if the gameplay sucks, those features mean nothing. And the current gameplay sucks.

 

[ryne candy]

Of course I am just screaming into empty space here, but the absolute #1 priority for Madden should be gameplay. NCAA draft classes, fine. 32-team control, fine ... but if the gameplay sucks, those features mean nothing. And the current gameplay sucks.

unfortunately, we would want to believe this but sales (even with the dip this year) don't show this. Features give them bullet points on the back of the box, which most people look for when picking up their 2-3 yearly titles. I would guess people who don't frequent gaming sites only have a total of 10 games this current gen and most of them are from their favorite sports and COD/BF.

 

[dave]

unfortunately, we would want to believe this but sales (even with the dip this year) don't show this. Features give them bullet points on the back of the box, which most people look for when picking up their 2-3 yearly titles. I would guess people who don't frequent gaming sites only have a total of 10 games this current gen and most of them are from their favorite sports and COD/BF.

You're probably right, ryne ... I just want Madden to approach Fifa, MLB The Show and NHL levels where gameplay is concerned. Yes, I love features, but gameplay is way more important.

 

[ram29jackson]

I personally find those after play "physics" humorous. Don't bother me. :dunno:

i'm not being nasty/hateful, just an amusing gif I found that's madden

 

[FirstTimer]

I don't think Aso is understanding the point, as usual. it's not that PS2 was "better", it's that these features never should have left the game to begin with and should have been a constant throughout the dev cycles and had them improve year after year. Instead, the dev team took them out completely for years on end then introduce them as "new", when they aren't and now we'll have to put up with working the bugs out for the next few seasons when they should have already been worked out during the last half decade of Madden had they just been left in the game.

 

[bucky]

You aren't in the Locker Room Argath. Take a deep breath, make your comments a little more constructive and a little less profane or just don't post in this discussion.

He's spot on.

 

[bucky]

I don't think Aso is understanding the point, as usual. it's not that PS2 was "better", it's that these features never should have left the game to begin with and should have been a constant throughout the dev cycles and had them improve year after year. Instead, the dev team took them out completely for years on end then introduce them as "new", when they aren't and now we'll have to put up with working the bugs out for the next few seasons when they should have already been worked out during the last half decade of Madden had they just been left in the game.

Madden 25 should have been Madden 06. Hey Mr. Bill. I'm way to fucking old for these guys to WASTE another decade of NFL football video gaming. I sure hope we're not going through this same BS with a new console.

 

[willie65]

Did they say anything about roster share in Madden 25?:kyrie:

 

[killgod]

He's spot on.

Spot on about what exactly? It's the same retarded talking points every year. You can't even argue the point because they are too immature and childish to handle a logical reply.


Those just raging about this and that can't comprehend it had to be rebuilt, which includes everything. You as someone who understandings these things, should be able to wrap your head around that. If they had to rebuild the mode, they have to rebuild all the features. The previous features TOOK A WHOLE GENERATION to appear, yet now people expect it all at once?

Why is this so hard to understand?

 

[Houston]

You aren't in the Locker Room Argath. Take a deep breath, make your comments a little more constructive and a little less profane or just don't post in this discussion.

:ukiddingme:

Where were you when Killgod called me a "fucking retard" for no constructive reason.

 

[killgod]

:ukiddingme:

Where were you when Killgod called me a "fucking retard" for no constructive reason.

You're a fucking retard because you can't figure out where franchise mode is without guidance. I still stand by that.

 

[bucky]

Spot on about what exactly? It's the same retarded talking points every year. You can't even argue the point because they are too immature and childish to handle a logical reply.


Those just raging about this and that can't comprehend it had to be rebuilt, which includes everything. You as someone who understandings these things, should be able to wrap your head around that. If they had to rebuild the mode, they have to rebuild all the features. The previous features TOOK A WHOLE GENERATION to appear, yet now people expect it all at once?

Why is this so hard to understand?

They didn't have to REBUILD in 06. Using compilers/linkers and a higher level language, most of the code should have been portable from one console to the next generation. The only things that would need to be specific to the hardware would be any graphics commands that don't go through a standard library and any real time embedded code that would otherwise be a bottleneck in the processing time. Most code outside of gameplay, which would be all the modes, should have been portable code to the next gen. Move the code, make some changes, compile, link. To be w/o these features from 06 to 14/25 is ridiculous.

If they wanted to redo, they should have started 2 years before going to the PS2/Xbox and Madden 25 should have been Madden 07. OK they didn't have that vision back then. We should have had all the PS2 features PLUS a lot more up to Madden 12 and then have maybe have a one/two year window with the new CCM like we are going through now. Except it hasn't really been a one or two year window, it's been an 8+ year window. Yeah, I do understand. Do you?

 

[Aso]

I don't think Aso is understanding the point, as usual. it's not that PS2 was "better", it's that these features never should have left the game to begin with and should have been a constant throughout the dev cycles and had them improve year after year. Instead, the dev team took them out completely for years on end then introduce them as "new", when they aren't and now we'll have to put up with working the bugs out for the next few seasons when they should have already been worked out during the last half decade of Madden had they just been left in the game.

I understand your point but you don't understand mine even though I've laid it out pretty clearly.

It was never "taken out" in the first place.

 

[FirstTimer]

I understand your point but you don't understand mine even though I've laid it out pretty clearly.

It was never "taken out" in the first place.

:ukiddingme:

 

[bucky]

I understand your point but you don't understand mine even though I've laid it out pretty clearly.

It was never "taken out" in the first place.

Really? Those features were never taken out? They've been in the game all these years and I just COULDN'T FIND THEM? You want to help point out to me where these features were in Madden 06 PS3?