Maybe stupid question but...How good would a kicker/punter have to be a top 10 pick?

[FirstTimer]

But I think looking at guys in the later rounds would be a different argument. I think Janikowski has proven to be more productive than most of his counterparts in the 1st round.

Also, that 2000 draft has some of the worst WRs I've ever seen. R Jay Soward? Travis Taylor? Peter Warrick? Yuck.

Syslvester Morris.

Gag.

Also who had the really good post on Warrick a while back talking about how Warrick, while not a great WR, was just a guy who was stuck on a shitty team with a shitty QB(s)?

 

[dave]

Second highest drafted kicker: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Erxleben

Erxleben was a bum in the NFL and turned out to be one in real life too.

 

[FirstTimer]

Highest drafted kicker: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Erxleben

Incorrect. Your own Wiki source proves it:

The unexpected selection, the eleventh overall in the draft, was the second highest selection of a kicker in the draft, with the highest drafted kicker being Charlie Gogolak.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Gogolak

:smug:

 

[dave]

In correct. Your own Wiki source proves it:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Gogolak

:smug:

I don't remember that guy, so he doesn't count.

 

[Tengo Juego]

If he could punt like Lechler and kick like Vinatieri, he would be drafted. By having a single person be punter and kicker, you allow for more freedom on the gameday roster by having an open spot. I wouldn't be surprised if someone THAT good was drafted in the top 10 in a thin draft class.

Alex Henery.

 

[biggamejrs]

Raise your hand if u used to beast with Trung Candidate in Madden.

 

[packersfan4eva]

Ask Ray Guy.

He's in the HoF.

 

[biggamejrs]

Ask Ray Guy.

He's in the HoF.

He should be.

 

[EmpireWF]

Then there's a guy like Mike Nugent. Jets wasted a 2nd round pick on him and he's struggled to stay on an NFL roster ever since.

 

[Awesometrax]

Then there's a guy like Mike Nugent. Jets wasted a 2nd round pick on him and he's struggled to stay on an NFL roster ever since.

Not as bad as Green Bay TRADING UP to draft B.J. Sander in the 3rd round the year prior. Guy lasted 2 years.

 

[NAHSTE]

 

[Kuzzy Powers]

Fun fact: 3 kickers came off the board in this draft (Janikowski, Edinger, Rackers) before Tom Brady

The thought of us drafting Paul Edinger over Tom Brady given our QB situation for decades is highly disturbing to me.

 

[Youk]

The thought of us drafting Paul Edinger over Tom Brady given our QB situation for decades is highly disturbing to me.

Paul Edinger, what a great Madden kicker.

 

[Deviant]

I would take Jano over any of those players I bolded honestly. Kickers should be drafted higher, they take just has much heat and have just as much if not more pressure than most other players, and having a good kicker is key to be successful especially in the playoffs.

See, the problem with this is that you're only saying that because Janikowski is still in the league in these guys aren't.

On draft day, you probably wouldn't be saying this. For instance, I would absolutely take LaVar over Janikowski. LaVar was fucking solid and couldn't span out because of his knees.

I remember Deltha O'Neal being alright as well, but just hasn't spanned out as long as Janikowski.

It's very easy to say that you would take Janikowski over these guys in hindsight.

 

[Senser81]

See, the problem with this is that you're only saying that because Janikowski is still in the league in these guys aren't.

On draft day, you probably wouldn't be saying this. For instance, I would absolutely take LaVar over Janikowski. LaVar was fucking solid and couldn't span out because of his knees.

I remember Deltha O'Neal being alright as well, but just hasn't spanned out as long as Janikowski.

It's very easy to say that you would take Janikowski over these guys in hindsight.

Agree that its easy to judge a draft in hindsight. I guess my point would be that a linebacker like Lavar Arrington probably has a greater chance of injury and is thus a greater risk than a guy like Sebastian Janikowski. Good kickers usually have long careers, and they don't usually get hurt (unless they are Joe Nedney).

 

[Cryolemon]

Raise your hand if u used to beast with Trung Candidate in Madden.

Not in Madden, but I also used to sign him in 2k5 because he had a goofy name lol.

 

[Bigpapa42]

I can't see any kicker being #1. Top ten seems unlikely, but first round seems possible. Its not just about the player having the talent, but also a team being willing to make that pick and the other talent available. The contract is an issue, though that could change with a new CBA.

 

[Maize]

Currently, I don't see a kicker ever going in the Top 15. Like everyone said, a dual kicker/punter that plays both well would be plausible. If I was a team that was in a position where I had a high pick from a trade, but was a playoff team and could use it as a luxury pick - I could consider a very special kicker in the first round.

 

[Bigpapa42]

Currently, I don't see a kicker ever going in the Top 15. Like everyone said, a dual kicker/punter that plays both well would be plausible. If I was a team that was in a position where I had a high pick from a trade, but was a playoff team and could use it as a luxury pick - I could consider a very special kicker in the first round.

That is a key right there, I think. It would be a luxury pick. A team that had no immediate needs and no realy depth issues might consider it... but that kind of team doesn't exist in the contemporary NFL.

 

[Saluki]

ask al davis

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