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NBA 2K12

So is there a way to download the cyberface upgrades to player models in this game on PS3? I remember last time I played I noticed a ton of player models were just old. Kinda takes some away from the overall experience.
 
I'm terrible at this game...holy crap. I'm using the shitty Bobcats in a Chise on Pro...I get killed every game! I think it's just the team more than anything.
 
I'm terrible at this game...holy crap. I'm using the shitty Bobcats in a Chise on Pro...I get killed every game! I think it's just the team more than anything.

Hang in there and keep playing. This was me the first few weeks I had the game. I was getting blasted by the computer and by my buddies. After taking my lumps, I started to get better and better. Now I got some good win streaks going vs. my buddies.

Changing over using the shot stick instead of the square to shoot seemed to help me out. It helps with open jumpers, but also on a fast break moving around a defending in the middle underneath the hoop.

Also this game is all about shot selection. You have to find the open spots on the floor and take shots from there. Taking shots with a defender in your face will make you shoot bad percentages. I know this might be common sense, but working the ball and being patient is the difference in the game. And be careful with the passes. Those long passes look so tempting but result in turnovers.

Use the quick plays, post up is good. Use the Pick and roll, although they hardly roll. But you can use the pick as a screen, and use it as a pick and pop a shot.

Also what helped me is practice mode post play. With 2 on 2 you can practice some iso motion moves with your guard, and post moves with your big men. I've got a real good post game now, love working the paint and the ball down low.

Learn a bunch of teams, their players, and their shots and you will keep improving.
 
Hang in there and keep playing. This was me the first few weeks I had the game. I was getting blasted by the computer and by my buddies. After taking my lumps, I started to get better and better. Now I got some good win streaks going vs. my buddies.

Changing over using the shot stick instead of the square to shoot seemed to help me out. It helps with open jumpers, but also on a fast break moving around a defending in the middle underneath the hoop.

Also this game is all about shot selection. You have to find the open spots on the floor and take shots from there. Taking shots with a defender in your face will make you shoot bad percentages. I know this might be common sense, but working the ball and being patient is the difference in the game. And be careful with the passes. Those long passes look so tempting but result in turnovers.

Use the quick plays, post up is good. Use the Pick and roll, although they hardly roll. But you can use the pick as a screen, and use it as a pick and pop a shot.

Also what helped me is practice mode post play. With 2 on 2 you can practice some iso motion moves with your guard, and post moves with your big men. I've got a real good post game now, love working the paint and the ball down low.

Learn a bunch of teams, their players, and their shots and you will keep improving.


I've slowed down and that's helped. Cut my turnovers from 13 (8 min qtr) down to probably 5-7. My biggest flaw now is defense..I should 45-55 % every game, but allow over 50% everytime. I can't seem to defend the post AT ALL!
 
I've slowed down and that's helped. Cut my turnovers from 13 (8 min qtr) down to probably 5-7. My biggest flaw now is defense..I should 45-55 % every game, but allow over 50% everytime. I can't seem to defend the post AT ALL!

Try to manually double team it. If the CPU or human opponent back you down and post you up, select a defender to control that is guarding your opponents weakest offensive player on the floor and control that guy and bring him over to help. This way if the CPU or opponent kick it out to the offensive player that is wide open from the double team they won't do too much damage.
 
I've slowed down and that's helped. Cut my turnovers from 13 (8 min qtr) down to probably 5-7. My biggest flaw now is defense..I should 45-55 % every game, but allow over 50% everytime. I can't seem to defend the post AT ALL!

I'm with you on that, it's practically a broken record against teams like the Heat and the Knicks where they have decent size (LeBron and Melo destroy me and draw fouls everytime) and the anouncers just keep talking about how my the opponent scores points in the paint.
 
yeah probably 75% of the pts scored against me are in the paint...kinda annoying. I had some C/PF's with ratings lower than 70 putting up 20 pts on me with ease...SMH

GRANTED...my PF is Tryus Thomas and my C is Boris Diaw...not exactly studs lol

Biyombo isn't too bad at defense. He's just SLLLOOWW.
 
Weirdest servers ever.

When the servers are up, the games are super smooth, almost like playing offline.

That's when the servers are up...lol.

They have been down all aftertnoon for the Ps3 again.
Probably been the 3rd time this week they are down. And when they do go down, they go down for hooouuurrrsss.
 
I don't know whats happened to this franchise post 2k8. Servers are still pretty bad on the 360, hit or miss in terms of lag. No lobbies, shitty mid range game, clunky controls, etc :(
 
When defending the post. Make sure you are using the right stick to keep your hands up when they attempt a move instead of going for the block. The only time you should be going for the block when being posted up is when they shoot a fade away. I don't generally give up many points from being backed down.

If all else fails, use the lock down paint quick strategy. I like to run a zone when using that strategy though. Zone defense is very underrated in this game...hardly anyone I see uses it.
 
Thinking about getting this. Is it any good?

Not if you want a hardcore sim. If you enjoyed 2k9-11 you'll probably like 2k12 as well. But, if you still play 2k8 like myself, then no 2k12 will still be a huge letdown. My copy is in brand new condition if anyone wants it.
 
I don't know whats happened to this franchise post 2k8. Servers are still pretty bad on the 360, hit or miss in terms of lag. No lobbies, shitty mid range game, clunky controls, etc :(

1. Lobbies suck anyway.
2. I have no problems with the mid-range game.
3. How are the controls clunky? Difficult to learn? Yes. Worth learning them? Completely.
 
Not if you want a hardcore sim. If you enjoyed 2k9-11 you'll probably like 2k12 as well. But, if you still play 2k8 like myself, then no 2k12 will still be a huge letdown. My copy is in brand new condition if anyone wants it.

2K8 was the one with Chris Paul on the cover right? That was easily the most "arcadey" game of the past 5 years. It was definitely a great game....but if you're looking for sim, you're headed the wrong way with 2K8.
 
1. Lobbies suck anyway.
2. I have no problems with the mid-range game.
3. How are the controls clunky? Difficult to learn? Yes. Worth learning them? Completely.

Noo, lobbies definitely did not suck unless you enjoy playing random people and cheesers. On 2k8 I only played people with at least 90% feedback or better and consistently got good games. By having the ability to select my opponents I very rarely ran into cheesers and the type of people who ruin the game for those looking for a sim experience.

Without lobbies it's a complete crap shoot as to what type of player you're going to run into. That's not fun.

The mid-range game is very weird on 2k12 and doesn't feel right at all. I can be wide open with a good spot-up shooter and rarely hit the shot. Meanwhile I can hit these ridiculous fades with a hand in my face at a pretty decent rate. Overall, it seems like you're rewarded for taking the more difficult shots. The game wants you to cross people up and work the stick, moreso than be more methodical and strategic.

2k8 was about strategy and basketball IQ, whereas 2k12 is more on the side of stick skills.

Also, the controls are clunky because the movement is not precise at all.
 
I feel like you are just inexperienced with the isomotion and don't know why your player does what he does. We can agree to disagree but I couldn't really ask for the controls to be more precise.

If you turn on shot quality feedback when playing, it will grade you on how good the shot is that you took. Usually an A or B range with a decent shooter is a 85% bucket.

Running plays to get guys open is 1000x better in 2K12 compared to 2K8 too.

Real talk though, 2K8 is the reason I got into the NBA so much. Game was fantastic, but the franchise has done nothing but grow since. I played something like 400 games online in 2K8.
 
Was playing a little My Player mode earlier, is there a way to shorten the season within the mode? Or is it stuck at 89
 
I feel like you are just inexperienced with the isomotion and don't know why your player does what he does. We can agree to disagree but I couldn't really ask for the controls to be more precise.

If you turn on shot quality feedback when playing, it will grade you on how good the shot is that you took. Usually an A or B range with a decent shooter is a 85% bucket.

Running plays to get guys open is 1000x better in 2K12 compared to 2K8 too.

Real talk though, 2K8 is the reason I got into the NBA so much. Game was fantastic, but the franchise has done nothing but grow since. I played something like 400 games online in 2K8.


Im not talking about any of the iso motion controls, just the basic movement which isnt nearly as tight as it used to be.

I dont think the shot feedback works online and I never play sp. But that goes out the window when its in my best interest to toss up some bs shots which fall more often than my open jumpers. Its hard to compare it to a game that most people havent played in 3 or 4 years, all I can say is pop in 2k8 for mp and see the difference. If you dont care about graphics, presentation, or animations its the better game.
 
Im not talking about any of the iso motion controls, just the basic movement which isnt nearly as tight as it used to be.

I dont think the shot feedback works online and I never play sp. But that goes out the window when its in my best interest to toss up some bs shots which fall more often than my open jumpers. Its hard to compare it to a game that most people havent played in 3 or 4 years, all I can say is pop in 2k8 for mp and see the difference. If you dont care about graphics, presentation, or animations its the better game.

2K8 is basically NBA Live compared to 2K12. The game is a dunk fest beyond belief. I liked the arcade style back when I first got into the game which is probably why I enjoyed it so much. I don't care about the graphics or presentation....I care about the gameplay, and it's not even close to 2k12 from a simulation stand point.
 
2k8 was not a dunk fest with proper D and playing against ppl who don't exploit. I will say that the post play is more physical now, but I'll take two sim players and a more realistic mid/3point game over what 2k12 has to offer.

With 2 sim players going at it, 2k12 no longer holds the adv, because the only downside that 2k8 has is nullified by sim play.

With that said, it's still not exactly a big challenge to attack the basket in 2k12.
 
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