Official New York Giants Forum Thread

[EmpireWF]

Damn the second half of the year is a brutal schedule.

@ New England & @ San Fran in back to back weeks...hopefully the travel doesn't become an issue

 

[Champ]

Check this out NFL Draft 2011: From Michael Strahan to Eli Manning, best New York Giants pickups of the past 20 years - ESPN New York

 

[Champ]

2006 Draft 5 years later

NFL draft 2011: Matthias Kiwanuka, Barry Cofield, Sinorice Moss, tell story of New York Giants' 2006 draft - ESPN New York

 

[EmpireWF]

Where do you fellas see the Giants looking to in the draft?

Here's my expectations…

The overwhelming consensus is they will address the offensive line here. Shaun O'Hara, the lifeblood of the OL is coming off injuries and is another year older. Kareem McKenzie is entering a contract year and is another year older. MVP Rich Seubert is coming off another major leg injury. Shawn Andrews figures to be cut due to $$$ and his back. We have some young talent in William Beatty and Adam Koets, but Koets is coming off an ACL injury. On the bright side, we figure to have two stable surefire guys in David Diehl and Chris Snee.

Although their figures to be a run on OTs at some point in the first round, anything can happen. By all accounts, Anthony Costanzo is the go to guy…if he's available. There's also a rare chance Tyron Smith falls and if he does, I'd assume the Giants jump to pick him. There's also G/C Michael Pouncey whose value seems to be different across the board. If Pouncey and Costanzo are on the board, I don't have a clue who the Giants value more. If both are off the board by 19, have to wonder whether Nate Solder, Gabe Carimi or Derek Sherrod are high on their board.

The other significant need is the LB spot, but there doesn't appear to be any guys worth a first round pick who fit their system (ie. there's plenty of 3-4 outside rushers). Akeem Ayers is the most likely LB to go around 19, but I figure they value the OL more than Ayers.

I assume Mark Ingram will be on the board and although some fans/outlets think he's a match…I don't see it. I'm not high on taking RBs in the first round as it is and it's not like the Giants don't have talent there to begin with.

A dark horse option is other spots on defense whether it's the line or backfield. Although Kiwanuka is coming off an injury, I can't see them picking another end this early. While tackle is a spot which could use some help (especially if Cofield ends up elsewhere), the only options would be Corey Liugent, Marvin Austin and Stephen Paea. Not sold on any of them at 19 for the Giants. At cornerback, Jimmy Smith may be available and over the past week or so, he's been getting a lot of hype as the best press cover corner in the draft. While Aaron Ross has not progressed as best we could have hoped, I think Jerry Reese would have to be in love with a corner to take them at 19.

Right now, my ideal draft looks something like:

1. C Mike Pouncey (Florida) or OT Anthony Castonzo (BC)
2. CB Davon House (NM State) or LB Martez Wilson (Illinois) or RB Mikel Leshoure (Illinois)
3. LB Greg Jones (Michigan State) or WR Edmond Gates (ACU)
4. S Quinton Carter (OU) or LB K.J. Wright (Miss. State)
6 (3x). S Joe Lefeged (Rutgers) or DT Martin Parker (Richmond) or K/P Alex Henery (Nebraska) or RB Jamie Harper (Clemson)
7. RB Noel Devine (WVU) or RB Evan Royster (PSU)

 

[Champ]

Good articles on Giants upcoming draft.

Giantslikely to focus on offensive line in Draft - NYPOST.com

NFL Draft: New York Giants looking to inject some youth into aging group

In Draft, Giants Value Talent Over Need - WSJ.com

More mocking of the mock drafts | New York Daily News

 

[EmpireWF]

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[EmpireWF]

Giants have allowed players to enter the building and use the weight room and speak with coaches.

Only players I read who showed were Manningham, Canty and Jacobs.

 

[EmpireWF]

lol @ this

Ramses Barden tweets about the Lakers/Hornets game:

@RamsesNYG: These fools are playin' hard. Reminds me of early 90's basketball. #NBAFinals

Terrell Thomas responds:

foo u was 2 yrs old lol

:smug:

 

[Champ]

Giants have allowed players to enter the building and use the weight room and speak with coaches.

Only players I read who showed were Manningham, Canty and Jacobs.

They already took away this privilege

 

[strahanfan92]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anjAnb3yXrM

Almost shed a tear watching this, happiest moment of my life. Keep posting it on a half year basis man, gets better every time!

 

[Champ]

Article on Chad Jones by Chad Jones

http://thechart.blogs.cnn.com/2011/04/26/human-factor-for-budding-nfl-player-hope-after-tragedy/

 

[EmpireWF]

Who knows what the draft board looks like at 19, but OT Nate Solder is picking up a lot of steam to the Giants.

Question then becomes if Pouncey is still on the board, who do they like better? I imagine they'd take Pouncey, but Solder may be option #2.

 

[strahanfan92]

PRINCEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!

Mike Garafolo
Reese wouldn't say how much separation there was between Prince and the next cluster but Coughlin indicated it was a big spread. #nyg

 

[EmpireWF]

THRILLED with the pick. #2 corner in the draft falls right into their lap and they don't miss a beat. It sounds like they wanted Pouncey---->Solder------>Ingram. With the first two gone, they probably would have been fine taking Ingram but to their surprise, Amukamara was still on the board.

Reasons he may have fallen include concerns about his personality in the locker room and he may not have the best ball skills. He is known as a great press corner.

Having him, assume he'll start out as the nickle corner and could swap with Terrell Thomas to become the #2 guy.

Deon Grant won't be forced to play nickle and we won't have to rely on Aaron Ross to be anything more than a guy in dime formations and to occasionally spell one of the other guys.

Giants used plenty of formations with lots of DBs on the field so it's a great move.

Reese saw the BPA on the board and snatched him. Love it.


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ESPN take on Prince...

What he brings: Amukamara is the most instinctive corner in this year's class. He has above-average recognition and route-anticipation skills, and is also light on his feet and changes directions quickly. He is also above-average when setting the edge in run support. He has shorter arms and that can be a problem against bigger receivers, and at times he will lose momentum when making sudden, 180-degree turns.

How he fits: This is a thinking man's defense, especially in the secondary where the Giants like to play a variety of packages and pressures. A year ago, the Giants were forced to play a lot of three-safety packages, but this pick alleviates that problem. Amukamara joins Corey Webster, Terrell Thomas and nickel back Aaron Ross, who struggles to stay healthy, and now the Giants have three guys who can play on an island to help their exotic pass rush. This really gives the Giants a lot of versatility.

 

[strahanfan92]

and now the Giants have three guys who can play on an island to help their exotic pass rush. This really gives the Giants a lot of versatility.

YOU LITERALLY CAN'T PUT IT ANY BETTER THAN THAT!!!



WOO!

 

[strahanfan92]

LB or O-Line in the 2nd round?

 

[EmpireWF]

Definitely OL. I'm hoping Ijalana is there for us but I doubt he is. We need to address the OL.

Any LB in the 2nd I'm not sold on (figuring Houston, Ayers and Wilson are gone by our pick).

 

[Champ]

Prince's Q and A after the draft

He seems like a nice kid. He seems a bit retarded, he was probably super nervous.
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=596037714030&oid=286845273454&comments

Giants.com's John Schmeelk caught up with the newest Giants CB Prince Amukamra for his FIRST OFFICIAL GIANTS interview!

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=596031860760&oid=286845273454&comments

Coach Tom Coughlin gives you his thoughts on the selection of Nebraska CB Prince Amukamara!

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=596035438590&oid=286845273454&comments

Now I feel bad. He seems like a very spiritual fellow.

http://twitter.com/#!/princeamukamara

 

[strahanfan92]

Heard on Boomer and Craig that he scored a 35 on the wonderlic. Did some research and came upon this:

Amukamara, who registered the top score for a cornerback, improved by 21 points from the 14 he recorded last fall, and teams that have interviewed him have said the 14 score is a closer indicator of his intelligence.

..... So I guess that would mean the Wonderlic is a flawed test.. :shrug:

 

[EmpireWF]

My 2nd Round Wishlist….

1. DE Da'Quan Bowers -- awesome value
2. T/G Ben Ijalana -- need
3. DT Stephen Paea -- not only great value but need
4. C/G Rodney Hudson - need
5. LB Dontay Moch -- explosive athlete, more of a 3-4 OLB, but Giants need a player like him
6. WR Jerrel Jernigan -- reports say Giants like him and although this would mean avoiding a BIG need, he could be the big return man