[PS4] Official PlayStation 4 Thread

[jms493]

Not really what I'm trying to get at. Madden was also a poor example because they don't do shit.

What if I press "share" and get an option "upload video to developer for bug report" or something? What if Sony permits downloadable Alpha/Beta formats and allows this?

Certainly the potential is there.

ok...now that would be a good idea.

 

[Handleit_44]

Since everything is already built in, I'll be streaming my games for sure - always wanted to but didn't have the computer for it (also didn't feel like spending the money for a capture card).

 

[JimLeavy59]

My main question is can I capture and export what I recorded to my computer? If so that really makes this console a day one buy for me.

 

[jms493]

My main question is can I capture and export what I recorded to my computer? If so that really makes this console a day one buy for me.

good question.

 

[Handleit_44]

Shuhei Yoshida on the making of PlayStation 4


Nintendo ended up becoming more profitable last generation by focusing on the user experience – has Sony taken onboard some of that same wisdom?

It’s not easy to make a system that “just works”. We’ve been criticised all the time for people having to wait to download patches, or for firmware updates, and we are gamers as well so we know exactly what people have to go through on PS3. So we wanted to really make it a focus so that our developers in Tokyo and the US who work on system software and such features were really thinking about some of these experiences.

At the reveal event, PS4 was positioned as being all about games. Does this mean other services – photos, music, and so on – will be less prominent on the console’s dashboard?

We know that people like these functions, such as Netflix, and use them a lot. And especially for those people who are not the person who purchased these consoles – like family members – they tend to use these non-game functions. So it’s not like we are no longer going to do these functions, but especially for the announcement event, we wanted to show how the game experiences will change with PS4, because that’s the biggest focus for us. Once that communication [to the public] is achieved, then probably later this year we’ll talk more about what these non-game functions [are] that we are trying to bring to PS4 as well.

Can you tell us how Mark came to be involved and how he was selected?

That’s an excellent question. As you know Mark and our studio have worked for a long time, our history goes back to the PS One days when Mark was running Universal Interactive and producing Crash Bandicoot. And we were the publisher, the licensee of the IP, and published both Crash Bandicoot and Spyro The Dragon franchises and after PS One the relationship evolved. He set up his own consulting company, Cerny Games, and became the contributor, contracted with us and Naughty Dog to help create Jak And Daxter and with Insomnia to help create Ratchet And Clank.

That continued on until the next-generation, for example with Resistance: Fall Of Man, but he was pretty much working on many projects with Worldwide Studios. But the significant work he did on the technical side was to help to develop the graphics engine, the common firstparty game engine, that we developed between the US and European teams. Mark was leading that effort, as well as Richard Lee, and Richard Lee is the CTO of our studio now. Mark was based in the States and Richard is now based in London. And I was running the studio in the States and Phil Harrison was running the studios in Europe, so we decided to collaborate and create a common engine for PS3. Mark shifted some of his time from helping on game projects to more technical work for the launch of PS3. Following that, Worldwide Studios provided the engine to thirdparty development communities in the early stages of PS3. Many thirdparty developers struggled to work with the new Cell architecture. So that’s how SCEI discovered the resource which is Worldwide Studios and we have a lot of technical people that may now source parts, like drivers or engines or toolsets, that they visit us and we package it and distribute it to thirdparties.

So we were talking following Kaz’s instructions that Worldwide Studios should be involved [in PS4], and I kind of suggested ‘What about Mark?’

So myself, Hirai-san and Mark started this idea of Mark directly working for SCEI Tokyo in addition to working on projects for Worldwide Studios. He’s more dedicated to technical work for PS Vita and PS4 than on game projects, but he never stopped work on game projects, helping out teams like Santa Monica studios, and now he’s a game director on Knack, with Japan Studio. He believes, and I agree, that he wants to continue to be hands-on making games at the same time as making hardware and platforms. So he understands the latest in game development and some pain points that the PlayStation developers may go through.

http://www.edge-online.com/features/shuhei-yoshida-on-the-making-of-playstation-4/

 

[BigBucs]

Since everything is already built in, I'll be streaming my games for sure - always wanted to but didn't have the computer for it (also didn't feel like spending the money for a capture card).

I havent read through all of this but I dont see you being able to stream and entire game simply by using the share button. If you could that shit would be awesome.

 

[EmpireWF]

From IGN via Kotaku....the rumored prices for PS4 in November are at $429 & $529 for two different models or packages.

 

[JimLeavy59]

Meh Kotaku is garbage.

 

[jms493]

From IGN via Kotaku....the rumored prices for PS4 in November are at $429 & $529 for two different models or packages.

 

[jms493]

Full Article. http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/...mpaign=Feed:+wired/index+(Wired:+Top+Stories)

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Anyway, Sony has placed the power of the Share button in the hands of the developers. So I’ll go ahead and use the balance of this story to make a direct plea to PlayStation 4 game creators: Let players stream your games. All of them. Every part. For as long as they want.

You might think you want to cut off streaming for some reason. You might be wary of having parts of your game spoiled. You have good intentions. Fight these impulses. People who want to spoil themselves will find a way to spoil themselves, no matter what you do. Streaming a video of a game is trivial for those who have the desire to do it.

And it’s a great way of getting your game in front of people who can’t play it — like Shuhei Yoshida, running Sony’s game development studios while marathoning Dark Souls.

Embrace streaming — or find your game ignored in favor of the ones that do.

 

[padman59]

Full Article. http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/...mpaign=Feed:+wired/index+(Wired:+Top+Stories)

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I can see a concern, but there are also practical reasons that Sony would want to limit streaming/sharing functionality at a developer/publisher's request. It's a way for Sony to cover their ass and prevent people from accidentally streaming closed betas or review copies during an embargo by using their console as an excuse. Also, there are apparently visual novels currently on the PS Store that explicitly forbid streaming or posting videos of their content in their EULAs, and Sony would probably feel obliged to help with those requests.

 

[Handleit_44]

Full Article. http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/...mpaign=Feed:+wired/index+(Wired:+Top+Stories)

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David Cage "gets it"


David Cage keen on PS4 Share button’s “water cooler effect”

Quantic Dream is famous for packing plot twists into its narrative-driven games, but CEO David Cage isn’t worried about spoilers.

Speaking to Kotaku, Cage said he’s not at all “scared” of the PS4′s Share feature, because it will help foster the kind of buzz which benefits Quantic Dream’s games.

“We want that ‘water cooler effect’. We had it on Heavy Rain. People talked about it, and they said, ‘I did this. What did you do?’” he said.

“The only difference is that now they will be able to capture and share it with their friends. That’s fine. People bought the game. They are free to enjoy it the way they want.”

Cage did recommend that players try games on their own first before “going back and talking too much to other people”.

“Just keep the experience unique,” he said.

The famed designer had more to say on the PS4, declining to discuss the studio’s new project but giving some thoughts on the new console in general.

“What’s certain is, yes, everything is open today. Everything is connected. There’s a new controller. We need to look at this new controller’s functionality and adapt gameplay to it. But we also need to see these new connectivities. We need to find a way to embrace, not only the available technologies, but also the new habits of players. Yeah, we’re thinking a lot about it right now,” he said.

“One of the features of the PlayStation 4 controller is the touchpad, for instance. These new features are very interesting to us because we think that we would like to bring casual gamers or occasional gamers or even people who don’t play at all to the medium.

“I think we can only do that through what I would say are non-conventional gaming paradigms. The controller has always been to a certain extent a barrier to those non-gamers to jump into the gaming space. We’ve seen more and more people embracing gaming through those mobile devices. That’s something else that we’re watching very, very carefully. We’ll see in the future what this means.”

 

[ryne candy]

From IGN via Kotaku....the rumored prices for PS4 in November are at $429 & $529 for two different models or packages.

What I expected....I guess, I will be waiting a year. As long as MLB The Show comes out for PS3, I will be good.

 

[Twigg4075]

What I expected....I guess, I will be waiting a year. As long as MLB The Show comes out for PS3, I will be good.

Yup, me too.

 

[Handleit_44]

Yoshida: Making PS4 always-online was never considered

Over the past few months, there has been a lot of talk about always-online. Much of the discussion stemmed from rumors about the next Xbox, which was initially said to require a form of always-online connection in order to function. However, the latest conjecture indicates that users will be able to experience single-player titles, run Blu-rays, and watch live television without the Internet.

With such strong speculation about always-online and how it relates to the next Xbox, one has to wonder if Sony ever considered this type of functionality for the PlayStation 4. That would be a no, according to Sony Worldwide Studios president Shuhei Yoshida. The company’s main reasoning is that “many countries don’t have robust Internet connections.”

Yoshida explained to Game Informer:

“Did we consider it? No, we didn’t consider it. The main reason being that many countries don’t have robust Internet connections. It makes sense for people to have Internet connections to play online games, but for offline games there are many countries that we saw do not really have robust Internet.”

 

[Swarley]

Game Informer Dualshock 4 prototype hands-on (some new info, some we already knew):

• Some components are still being refined (like the d-pad and overall weight)
• Deadzone on the analog sticks has been greatly reduced.
• Both sticks feature stiffer resistance.
• Thumbs bumping into each other is no longer an issue, the analog sticks are spaced farther apart.
• Analog sticks have a ridged concave top that prevent your thumbs from slipping off.
• Stuck with symmetrical design because the assymetrical design would cause more dificulties to interact with the touchpad without unintentionally bumping into the left stick.
• Touchpad is multi-touch, replaces start and select buttons.
• Ridge at the end of the triggers grasps at your fingers instead of letting them slide off.
• There is a small speaker above the ps button, below the touchpad.
• Lightbar works in conjunction with the ps4 eye to track your position and adjusts the split screen accordingly.
• Controller felt comfortable and sturdy.
• Got input from Bungie (and a bunch of first party studios) for designing the DS4, Bungie really wanted to make it a controller that worked great for fps games.
• Writer of the article says the controller is a big reason for gamers to be excited for the console.

 

[Swarley]

Supposed leaked advertisement for the PS4 revealing the console itself. I'm sure it's fake as hell, but it's a fairly well done fake. What tells me that it's fake is that it only shows inFAMOUS: Second Son and nothing else.

 

[CCBrink]

Well played Sony :golfclap:

 

[padman59]

I say a day before someone takes all of those stills and makes a 3D mockup of the PS4's design.

 

[Handleit_44]