Official Washington Redskins Forum Thread

[Aso]

The offense definitely has problems. They haven't done jack shit in the first half of most games this season.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

The offense definitely has problems. They haven't done jack shit in the first half of most games this season.

Or they do a good job in the first half, and then pull that in the second. There just isn't any consistency.

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

welp.........
it really is do or die toinght at vs. the 49ers.

and it could a very LONG, LONG, LONG, LONG offseason if "off season" starts tomorrow morning
:misogi:



But

if we lose tonight...........
you think Cousins should get start for remainder of season??

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Yes, it's going to be a really long off-season. I actually think the Redskins have thrown in the towel. I put myself on the season ticket wait list around Week 3. The email I got over the weekend is if you purchase 2014 season tickets now, you get tickets to the Giants, Chiefs and Cowboys games.

Giving away those games, especially the two divisional rivalry games, equates to packing it in, at least from the FO perspective.

That's a tough choice, to start Cousins or not. On one hand, if you want to see what he can do and/or build his trade value, you let him start. On the other, you've had RGIII being very outspoken, and there is no telling what this can do for the locker room right now and the media.

I think that the Shanahan's are coaching for their jobs, and I think they have to keep RGIII in there barring an injury.

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

Yes, it's going to be a really long off-season. I actually think the Redskins have thrown in the towel. I put myself on the season ticket wait list around Week 3. The email I got over the weekend is if you purchase 2014 season tickets now, you get tickets to the Giants, Chiefs and Cowboys games.

Giving away those games, especially the two divisional rivalry games, equates to packing it in, at least from the FO perspective.

That's a tough choice, to start Cousins or not. On one hand, if you want to see what he can do and/or build his trade value, you let him start. On the other, you've had RGIII being very outspoken, and there is no telling what this can do for the locker room right now and the media.

I think that the Shanahan's are coaching for their jobs, and I think they have to keep RGIII in there barring an injury.

i thought about those things you mention
but
i am kinda leaning to seeing RGIII finish the season out.
cause if he wants to be the leader, this would be perfect for him to become the goat or hero.

finish strong with pride at the very least
or
throw in towel and look like "FAIL" from all aspects.

i am sure Shanny is Staff is thinking about "salvaging credibility" at this point for MNF.
letting that even trickle down to players as well.
if Shanny is gone, there will be a whole bunch of players that will be gone as well, if a new coaching staff comes in.


its going to be a long offseason regardless of when it starts,
:lol4:

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Who do you think are going to be gone? I think Hall and Fletcher for certain are gone, likely Santana Moss as well. The vets are going to be gone, but I think the bulk of this team is pretty young. We still need OL depth, and a remade secondary and some LB help for sure.

Berman did have a point right now on the pre-show. Take out the seven game win streak, the team is 6-14 under RGIII. It is unfair to take out that winning streak because all teams get hot, but it's still a good point.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Man, our field is awful.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Josh Wilson on Boldin is not going to work, Boldin has the physical advantage over him. Gotta put Hall on him or give Wilson some safety help.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

No words to describe this embarrassment currently being played. Most of that team seems to have mailed it in on this season already.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

So of all the list of needs, we're likely going to have a coaching change as well. Here's what I'm spotting so far from a roster position

CB and S starters and depth
LB starters and depth
KR/PR
WR depth
OL depth
DL depth

I'm thinking, at a minimum, Moss, Fletcher and Hall are all gone. Josh Morgan likely won't be re-signed. I also wouldn't be surprised to see Josh Wilson, Riley or Meriweather released either.

The defense has played relatively well when you consider how poor the offense has played at times and they are asked to be out there far too much. Just with age, I expect some of these guys to be released and for the Redskins to do their best to retool the secondary this off-season. We have a good base with the defensive line though, just need an extra body or two.

Also, I seriously consider letting Cousins get in a few games. I doubt it happens, but we will have to see. I think Shanahan's job security can be determined based off what he does there. If he keeps RGIII in, barring injury, his job is not secure for next season. If he puts Cousins in, even near the end, I think it's a safe bet he comes back.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

I'm fully expecting another loss today Humble, the team is in free fall and this isn't going to get better.

If RGIII continues to struggle, I would definitely pull him for Cousins.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

It wasn't close to the Packers/Seattle game last year with that call, but the officials made a horrible call with the third down late in the game that played a huge part in us losing. That kind of confusion is unacceptable.

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

dont know what happened there, TT



very bad call
But
Fred Davis (3rd down) and Garcon (4th down) both dropped big pass, regardless of call.



anyway;
its time for the offseason.........




it will be interesting to see what happens between now and next season with players

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

I'm fully expecting another loss today Humble, the team is in free fall and this isn't going to get better.

If RGIII continues to struggle, I would definitely pull him for Cousins.

forgot to add.........
i still dont think this all RGIII.......
but
i dont think they sit him for entire game to get Cousins in.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

I don't think it is all RGIII either but he's got to learn how to lead. Giving him a bench seat for a bit would see how he reacts to that and if he becomes a leader or if he pouts on the bench.

I didn't think we needed it, but we need some reliable hands. Based off of all of the other needs we have, that's lower on the priority list but that was an embarrassing end to the game all around.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/10068583/nfl-refs-erred-end-washington-redskins-new-york-giants

Ref crew should face the downgrade that they were talking about last season. Completely unacceptable gaffe, but it's still not as bad as the GB/SEA call last season.

 

[MVPete]

Do the Redskins try and trade Cousins this offseason? Maybe get something similar to what Matt Schaub got 2x2nd rounders, or demand a 1st and another pick.

 

[kmanharris]

Do the Redskins try and trade Cousins this offseason? Maybe get something similar to what Matt Schaub got 2x2nd rounders, or demand a 1st and another pick.

Put him in week 17 and cross your fingers for a Matt Flynn type game :dunno:

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Do the Redskins try and trade Cousins this offseason? Maybe get something similar to what Matt Schaub got 2x2nd rounders, or demand a 1st and another pick.

I think it depends on Shanahan's future. If Shanahan is back for next season, they will more than likely keep Cousins, as they really like having that quality backup and he and RGIII get along great. If another coach is brought in and they want to acquire more draft choices, then they likely look to trade Cousins.

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

if Shanahan goes, then its all over. the idea of RGIII being the franchise QB will be gone too.......
Redskins and Snyder are in a catch 22. look really dumb by throwing that all away
OR
stick with Shany and RGIII, and go Do or Die.

the whole idea was to bank on the future of the trades for RGIII and Shany, molding a solid Franchise QB.
thinking that this season was about, be a pocket passer 1st, then look to run out of pocket.......

anyway;
if a team offers a 1st rounder for Cousins......take it. we need a 1st rounder next year.
bring Pat White back and its settled.