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The only pick I really like was Breeland.

Moses and Long I can go along with. Moses was mocked as a first rounder a lot before the draft so hopefully we got a steal here.


Someone explain to me why we just went and spent all this money in FA on Receiver and then we draft another one that is supposedly a clone of the guy we just gave $16 million to?

I'd also love to hear the logic behind the RB. I'm guessing either Chris Thompson, Evan Royster or Helu are gonna be hittin the road soon?

I think with RB, they are throwing a bone to RGIII. They are thinking he has the ability to catch the ball and develop into a Sproles clone, even though Baylor doesn't throw the ball to their backs. I thought with Helu and Royster we would be fine. Thompson is coming back from an injury and Helu is injury-prone, so it's likely to fight them.
 
http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014...ed-down-kirk-cousins-trade-offer-from-browns/

Browns were interested in Cousins. Offered a 4th. Bruce Allen vetoed it. Wanted a 2nd.

Two things are now apparent:

1. Bruce Allen is an idiot and should be fired. The fact that anyone was offering you anything for Cousins and you turned it down. Let alone getting a 4th rounder. That's the NT we've needed for the last 4 years. That's the C we've needed since forever.

2. RGIII does not want Cousins on the team.

DaQuan Jones or Justin Ellis would look really good on our defensive line. Just sayin.
 
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Slateman, I think the only thing with the Redskins we disagree with is Cousins' value to the team. Like I said earlier, a fourth round is not enough for a player who has come in and started and done reasonably well. Unlike McCoy, he already knows the team and players, and we are going to try and run a similar scheme so far as zone blocking and trying to get some quick passing reads. Considering RGIII's knee, you have to have Cousins and another viable backup on the roster.

Just look at the situation Dallas was in during the playoffs. Romo is out, Orton was the only other QB on the roster, so they brought back Jon Kitna. Could you imagine Orton getting hurt and having to rely on a clearly washed up Kitna? The value of a backup QB is really understated in the NFL, and some teams don't even carry the third QB anymore.
 
Except, he really hasn't done that well. He has one good start. Compare that with the three bad ones. And unless Cousins blows up and becomes the next Brady, he won't garner anything higher than a 4th rounder. Next year he will only have one year left on his contract. No one is going to give up a lot for one year of a QB.

Bottom line is that if Cousins is playing for any length of time, the Redskins' season is over. Griffin will have to mask the issues this team has, especially on the offensive line.
 
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...-at-sixth-round-running-back-lache-seastrunk/

Pretty good read of Seastrunk, with some photos and videos. Big thing is going to be developing as a blocker, which there was actually some footage on (unlike catching passes) and that shows some limitations in his ability to read defenses and picking up assignments.

We also lost Morocco Brown in the front office to the Browns as their director of player personnel (I think) which is a blow. He was key in scouting FA's, and has been a GM candidate for many teams in each of the past three seasons. My guess as to why he continues to be passed over is the lack of experience at a higher level position, which Cleveland gives him. The in-house candidates to replace him are Doug Williams and AJ Smith.
 
Whether or not you agree or disagree with the name, I think we can all agree that the Senate should be more focused on other things than trying to get the NFL to change the name of one of their teams.
 
If they do end up forcing a name change.. I hope it comes with a forced change in ownership :oops:

While Snyder has been far from the best owner in the NFL, would you rather have a hands-off owner, who does nothing to really improve the team? I do like that Snyder gave Shanahan the time to attempt to turn things around. I just hope that Allen and Gruden are afforded the same opportunity.
 
Whether or not you agree or disagree with the name, I think we can all agree that the Senate should be more focused on other things than trying to get the NFL to change the name of one of their teams.

I hate people who say this shit. People with no clue about government saying they all should be focused on other things, but have no fucking clue what a committee or sub-committee is.
 
I hate people who say this shit. People with no clue about government saying they all should be focused on other things, but have no fucking clue what a committee or sub-committee is.

Trust me, I am well aware on how Congress operates and know exactly what committees and subcommittees do. My point still stands. Half of the Senate should be focused on things elsewhere instead of signing this. Let the NFL, the Washington Redskins, the tribal groups and/or the courts handle it. Congress does not need to be involved in this kind of dispute.
 
Last week in a radio interview with Seattle's KJR, former NFL coach and front-office executive Mike Holmgren became the latest person to weigh in on the Redskins name controversy. During that conversation, Holmgren also recounted his own personal history with Redskins owner Dan Snyder dating back to early in Snyder's tenure in Washington.

Late in 2000, shortly after the Cowboys traded two first-round picks to the Seahawks for wide receiver Joey Galloway, Snyder phoned Holmgren, then the coach and general manager in Seattle, to let him know exactly how he felt about the move.

Details via Richard Justice, who wrote for the Houston Chronicle at the time (by way of the Washington Post):

"Snyder hasn't limited his temper to those on his payroll, either," Justice wrote. "He telephoned Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones on draft day to say he didn't think much of his chief rival's selections.

"And when Snyder believed Seattle coach Mike Holmgren had double-crossed him by trading receiver Joey Galloway to the Cowboys instead of the Redskins, he telephoned Holmgren to scream his displeasure."

So when Holmgren was asked in last week's radio interview if he knew Snyder, he said he did and then offered up this account (again, via the Post):

“Joey Galloway, I gave him the exclusive tag, and so we were trying to make a trade,” Holmgren said. “So I talked to the Redskins, and I talked to Dallas, and I told both teams, I said ‘Listen, I'm not gonna monkey around with this.' I said ‘You give me your best offer, I'll listen to you, and I'll listen to you and then I'll make the deal. Whoever gives me the best thing.'

“And so Jerry Jones said I'll give you two ones. And Washington -- Vinny Cerrato at the time -- said I'll give you this. And so I went with Jerry. And so I got a call. The first time I talked to Dan. And he goes ‘That's not how you negotiate!' I said, ‘Well, you know, that's how I decided to do it. And I'm sorry.

“And then he just goes off. He goes ‘I know you and Jerry Jones are friends, you sit on the Competition Committee, blah blah blah.' He goes off. And so I said ‘Hey, relax, would you' I said ‘You don't know me. You don't know what I'm thinking.' He goes ‘Hey, I'm a new owner, I plan to be in this a long time, and WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND! I said, ‘Bring it.' I said ‘Bring it.'"

We love the visual of Snyder yelling into his phone while Holmgren, who admits that "I said some other stuff that I'm not too proud of," seems wholly unconcerned.

Though, to Snyder's (alleged) point: What goes around did, in fact, come around. Fun fact, via CBSSports.com editor Tony Moss: The Redskins beat Holmgren's Seahawks four straight times after the Galloway trade, followed by playoff wins for Seattle over Washington in 2005 and 2007.

Holmgren also had a forgettable stint as the Browns president, and was the man responsible for using Cleveland's two 2012 first-round picks on Trent Richardson and Brandon Weeden, neither of whom are still with the team.

Eventually, however, Holmgren says he and Snyder patched things up.

“We had this big thing for a while," Holmgren conceded. "And then when his wife contracted cancer, and he knew Kathy had breast cancer, we flipped, and we became I don't want to say buddies, but it was really a change in the relationship. But those first couple of years, no, he was mad.”

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24573584/mike-holmgren-once-told-dan-snyder-to-bring-it

:jonesy:
 
I can just imagine Snyder during that point saying "face me or ban me." It was right after the vanilla ice cream incidents with Mike Nolan.
 
Post's observations from OTAs

The Redskins wrapped up their first week of offseason practices, and both coaches and players declared the last three sessions a success.

Today marked the first time that reporters were permitted to watch practice, and here are some things that stood out:

Robert Griffin III looked drastically different than he did at this point last year – as he was just getting used to moving around again – and noticeably different even than he did at many points last season. Obviously, it’s a controlled environment and it’s non-contact, and no guys are flying around at him. But so were portions of training camp and practices when we saw Griffin taking snaps. Griffin on Thursday just looked more fluid, more comfortable and confident. Critics last year said that Griffin didn’t step into his throws as much, although he always refuted such claims. But today, he definitely planted on his back leg, stepped into throws and drove the ball downfield.

Griffin has worked on his mechanics this offseason, trying to get them back to the way things were pre-surgery. Quarterback guru Terry Shea had a list of things he wanted Griffin to focus on in his delivery. He wanted him to have a more narrow base, shorten his step, have a quick release and keep the ball high and tight as he threw. Griffin appeared to be doing this today, and his throws had better velocity.

Griffin showed off his arm several times on Thursday, but most notably on a play where Pierre Garcon beat rookie cornerback Bashaud Breeland on a deep route. Griffin rolled out to his left and as Breeland got caught watching the quarterback, and not his coverage assignment, Garcon created a huge cushion and Griffin gunned the ball downfield for a bomb.

Other times, Griffin showed good accuracy, fitting passes into tight windows.

Griffin must get better at scanning the field and reading defenses, and today, he showed some promise as he dropped back, couldn’t find a receiver and came under pressure. The quarterback broke the pocket and looked to run, but just as he reached the line of scrimmage, he located Garcon open on the sideline and threw to him. Another time, Griffin’s first and second reads were taken away, and he went to his third read, connecting with Andre Roberts off to his left.

Coach Jay Gruden praised Griffin’s play this week, and his grasp of the playbook and terminology. Asked what he wants the quarterback to work on as the offseason continues, the coach had this to say:

“I think just overall, the quarterback position, decision making, his drop, his everything. When you’ve only played two years at the quarterback position, you know you’re going to have your growing pains from time to time. Each year you’re going to have to improve, and the great ones will always improve from year to year and learn from their mistakes and never get too high or never get too low. They just have to continue to come out here and work, see the look, see the defenses and attack. And he’s doing a good job of that.

We’re getting him a lot of reps, a lot of good looks, and a lot of different concepts and so far he’s reacting well. Yesterday for instance – we had a play, and luckily we got the same defense today – threw an inception on it, today we got the same exact defense, he saw it, went through his progressions and made a great throw to Logan Paulsen. So this is all a learning process for him. It’s important for him to just take natural strides every day and get better. And the thing about Robert is that is his intent when he comes to work every day. He’s a sponge for information and wants to get better.”

We got a sneak peak at some of the creativity Jim Haslett hopes to put to use with Brian Orakpo, Ryan Kerrigan and rookie Trent Murphy. There were a number of situations on Thursday where all three shared the field, at times all as stand-up pass-rushers, and other times with one or more rushing as a down lineman.

Second-year safety Phillip Thomas has a lot of lost time to make up for, but he’s off to a good start. Thomas displayed enough promise prior to the draft to prompt the team’s decision makers to pass on the chance to draft a safety. Today, Thomas worked as the second-string strong safety behind Brandon Meriweather. Thomas, who missed last season with a Lisfranc injury that required surgery, moved around just fine and had one of the highlights of the day as he made a diving catch for an interception off Colt McCoy.

Speaking of safeties, Meriweather and Ryan Clark are the first-team strong and free safeties, and Bacarri Rambo served as Clark’s backup, while Akeem Davis and Tanard Jackson served as the third-string tandem.

Keenan Robinson may have missed a chunk of his rookie season and all of his second season, but the inside linebacker has an early leg up on the battle for the inside linebacker spot next to Perry Riley. Robinson (torn pectoral muscle in 2012 and 2013) looked comfortable in his role as he made calls for the defense, played the run and dropped back in coverage. Gruden praised Robinson for continually standing out in practices.

Wide receiver Aldrick Robinson must become more versatile to help increase his value as he battles for a roster spot behind Pierre Garcon, DeSean Jackson and Andre Roberts. Today, Robinson worked on special teams both as a return man and as a gunner. He previously has seen little to no special teams action.

Wide receiver Leonard Hankerson (ACL), cornerback Richard Crawford (ACL, MCL), defensive end Stephen Bowen (microfracture surgery), cornerback Tracy Porter (labrum) and nose tackle Barry Cofield (hernia) all trained on the side as they recover from surgeries. The team hopes to get them all back by training camp.

Chris Baker saw time at left end instead of last year’s starter Jarvis Jenkins, who is healthy, and Jason Hatcher worked at right end, the spot previously held by Bowen. Chris Neild and Kedric Golston saw time at nose tackle with Cofield out.

Andre Roberts will likely serve as the primary slot threat, but he lined up both in the slot and on the outside today. Santana Moss did as well. A couple times, DeSean Jackson lined up in the slot.

Jackson’s speed jumps out at you right away whether it’s while running pass routes, or reverses. Jackson said he’s still getting a feel for his coaches’ plans for him, but thus far, they have used him in a variety of ways, which he welcomes.

Third-year guard Josh LeRibeus looks trimmer than he did last year, when he reported 30 to 40 pounds overweight and never got on the field. LeRibeus continues to work as the second-team left guard – now behind Shawn Lauvao instead of Kory Lichtensteiger (now the center). Fellow 2012 draft pick Adam Gettis had served as backup to right guard Chris Chester, but today, he served as third-string left guard. Meanwhile, rookie Spencer Long appears to have replaced him as second-string right guard next to fellow third-round pick Morgan Moses, who played behind Tyler Polumbus at right tackle. Now, it’s early, of course. But it will be interesting to see how things shake out.

The Redskins used a number of multiple tight end sets in years past under Kyle Shanahan. And it appears that they could continue to do so under Gruden and Sean McVay (the former tight ends coach) as Logan Paulsen and Jordan Reed shared the field both on 11-on-11 and 9-on-7 portions of practice.

Gruden opted not to hire a quarterbacks coach because he and McVay will work extensively with the team’s passers. McVay schooled the trio on footwork and delivery mechanics during individual drills on Thursday.

The Redskins have the next five days off, and then report back to Redskins Park for their second round of practices next Wednesday.

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