Official Washington Redskins Forum Thread

[Argath]

Tanard Jackson has been conditionally reinstated by the NFL. He will take physical, & team 'might give him a chance' to earn spot - Per Bruce Allen on Redskins twitter.

Also states Redskins will be drafting BPA instead of for need.

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

he hasnt played a full season or at all, in like 3 years. it would be a special circumstance if they keep him and can still be able to contribute to the game

 

[ThomasTomasz]

I am all for giving him a shot, as Morris worked with him in Tampa but I am not expecting him to contribute, much less make the roster. For that to happen, he's had to have kept himself in stellar condition just to be on the field, and that's not counting erosion of skill either. One benefit that could motivate Jackson is that this is it, after all he's been through I can't see any other team taking a chance on him.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Nevermind, seems that we released him this afternoon.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Another Jackson update- he was brought back under a new contract, which includes less guaranteed money and less overall money. I still don't see him making the active roster after being out of the game for so long, but if Jackson is motivated, anything could happen.

Are any of you guys expecting the Redskins to trade up into the first round? I think with us going BPA that scenario is unlikely, and I think we would be best suited to listen to offers for the second round pick. I am sure some talent will be falling, and if we get a good enough offer with later picks, we would have to listen.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Top players available at positions of need. No clue why the Post included RB on list of needs, I figured with Morris, Helu and Royster things are pretty well set. Disappointed Ward went to the Broncos, would have been perfect if he fell to us.

Offensive tackle:
Cyrus Kouandjio (Alabama)
Morgan Moses (Virginia)
Jack Mewhort (Ohio State)
Antonio Richardson (Tennessee)
Cameron Fleming (Stanford)

Inside linebacker:
Chris Borland (Wisconsin)
Shayne Skov (Stanford)
Carl Bradford (Arizona State)
Preston Brown (Louisville)
Lamin Barrow (LSU)

Safety:
Terrence Brooks (Florida State)
Brock Vereen (Minnesota)
Marqueston Huff (Wyoming)
Dezmen Southward (Wisconsin)
Craig Loston (LSU)

Cornerback
Lamarcus Joyner (Florida State)
Phillip Gaines (Rice)
Keith McGill (Utah)
Marcus Roberson (Florida)
Stanley Jean-Baptiste (Nebraska)

Wide receiver
Allen Robinson (Penn State)
Cody Latimer (Indiana)
Jordan Matthews (Vanderbilt)
Donte Moncrief (Ole Miss)
Davante Adams (Fresno State)

Running back
Carlos Hyde (Ohio State)
Jeremy Hill (LSU)
Bishop Sankey (Washington)
Terrance West (Towson)
Tre Mason (Auburn)

Outside linebacker
Carl Bradford (Arizona State)
Kyle Van Noy (Brigham Young)
Jeremiah Attaochu (Georgia Tech)
Telvin Smith (Florida State)
Chris Smith (Arkansas)

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

Top players available at positions of need. No clue why the Post included RB on list of needs, I figured with Morris, Helu and Royster things are pretty well set. Disappointed Ward went to the Broncos, would have been perfect if he fell to us.

Offensive tackle:
Cyrus Kouandjio (Alabama)
Morgan Moses (Virginia)
Jack Mewhort (Ohio State)
Antonio Richardson (Tennessee)
Cameron Fleming (Stanford)

Inside linebacker:
Chris Borland (Wisconsin)
Shayne Skov (Stanford)
Carl Bradford (Arizona State)
Preston Brown (Louisville)
Lamin Barrow (LSU)

Safety:
Terrence Brooks (Florida State)
Brock Vereen (Minnesota)
Marqueston Huff (Wyoming)
Dezmen Southward (Wisconsin)
Craig Loston (LSU)

Cornerback
Lamarcus Joyner (Florida State)
Phillip Gaines (Rice)
Keith McGill (Utah)
Marcus Roberson (Florida)
Stanley Jean-Baptiste (Nebraska)

Wide receiver
Allen Robinson (Penn State)
Cody Latimer (Indiana)
Jordan Matthews (Vanderbilt)
Donte Moncrief (Ole Miss)
Davante Adams (Fresno State)

Running back
Carlos Hyde (Ohio State)
Jeremy Hill (LSU)
Bishop Sankey (Washington)
Terrance West (Towson)
Tre Mason (Auburn)

Outside linebacker
Carl Bradford (Arizona State)
Kyle Van Noy (Brigham Young)
Jeremiah Attaochu (Georgia Tech)
Telvin Smith (Florida State)
Chris Smith (Arkansas)

2nd round:
Phillip Gaines (CB)
or
(OT)
Cyrus Kouandjio (Alabama)
Morgan Moses (Virginia)

3rd Round:
Jordan Matthews (WR) - if he still available
OR
Donte Moncrief (WR)

 

[ThomasTomasz]

I have a hard time believing that Houston will not take a QB. If we truly are going BPA (and throw out QBs, because I doubt they looked at the top guys) then Marquis Lee has to be at the top of the board. I certainly wouldn't mind teaming him with Jackson and Garcon. I realize it's far from a need, but to get a first round talent that fell that far is great value and somewhat makes up for not having a first rounder.

 

[Argath]

I have a hard time believing that Houston will not take a QB. If we truly are going BPA (and throw out QBs, because I doubt they looked at the top guys) then Marquis Lee has to be at the top of the board. I certainly wouldn't mind teaming him with Jackson and Garcon. I realize it's far from a need, but to get a first round talent that fell that far is great value and somewhat makes up for not having a first rounder.

I would have mixed feelings about this considering we just spent money on Andre Roberts and brought back Santana Moss. However I would love to see marquise lee with Garcon and Jackson. That would be an explosive WR corps. I have a feeling with teddy off the board, Houston might trade back with a team that wants to grab Lee.

Hoping we bring in one of these two:

Cyrus Kouandjio (Alabama)
Morgan Moses (Virginia)

 

[ThomasTomasz]

I would have mixed feelings about this considering we just spent money on Andre Roberts and brought back Santana Moss. However I would love to see marquise lee with Garcon and Jackson. That would be an explosive WR corps. I have a feeling with teddy off the board, Houston might trade back with a team that wants to grab Lee.

Hoping we bring in one of these two:

Cyrus Kouandjio (Alabama)
Morgan Moses (Virginia)

Sometimes I wish the draft was before free agency. I think drafting younger guys to fill needs first makes a whole lot more sense than signing free agents, but that's just me.

If we do draft Lee, that would mean that we likely end up using Roberts more as a return guy, which I don't mind. Another first round talent, Louis Nix, is also on the board still as well.

 

[Slateman]

Did not expect Hageman or Nix to both be on the board. Would LOVE to get a real NT. I also think Justin Ellis could be good, but I'm a little wary of the Baker/Neild comparisons.

I also think this draft is pretty deep in offensive linemen and we could get a competitor at RT in the third round. Or even the late second round if they wanted to trade back.

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

wow.......didnt see that trade to Dallas coming


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[Slateman]

 

[Slateman]

Not a good draft. Actually, I would say a pretty terrible draft.

Huge reach on Murphy. Not saying he isn't worth drafting, but he could have been that second 3rd rounder.

I hate the Moses pick. Even in the 3rd round, he isn't a tackle. He struggled at RT at UVA. He faced minimal pass rushers his last season and did pretty well at LT.

Spencer's a nice pick, but that pretty much means Moses has to stick at tackle.

Meanwhile, they did nothing to get a NT, despite Nix being on the board. They did nothing to bolster their shitty secondary.

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

4th round:

not really sure if get what we doing with those picks
but
they need to pick up one of these guys with the next pick:

CB - EXUM
FS - VEREEN
SS - LOSTON

 

[x0xHumblex0x]

:smh:


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[Slateman]

That corner they got went to Fairfax HS.

Kind of underwhelmed with the draft. Murphy felt like a reach. Moses seems better suited for guard. We passed on Gabe Jackson for Long. I do like the CB they took as he seems like his stock dropped due to the combine. He's certainly not 4.6 slow.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

The OG we picked could step in right away, Spencer Long. Should provide a physical mauler that we need. Moses was going to us in some mocks in the 2nd, so that could be construed as a value pick, but I don't like it. I agree with the thoughts mentioned already. Breeland ran a bad 40, but he doesn't have top end speed and he's probably suited best in the slot if you can't give him safety help deep.

Murphy was a huge risk to take that high, but that's the need they wanted to fill despite having both Orakpo, Kerrigan and Jackson back. Murphy is a high motor guy though, and it seems Allen and Haslett really like that kind of player, so we will have to see.

I wanted to see Marquis Lee and Louis Nix. I know they didn't fill needs, but to get first round talents that fell that far after giving up our previous first rounders to get RGIII, we could have used that infusion of talent.

Overall, I would grade the draft between C+ and B-, but it does have some potential unlike some previous drafts we had a decade ago.

 

[Slateman]

I have a gut feeling Breeland is going to be a steal.

I wanted Gabe Jackson because I think he's going to be an elite guard within one season.

I don't know what to make of the Moses pick. I'm hoping that his struggles at RT had to do with his mental preparation and offseason conditioning, and not an inherit inability to play on the right side. Because, honestly, we don't have a guard spot for him anymore. Or at least, we shouldn't.

 

[Argath]

The only pick I really like was Breeland.

Moses and Long I can go along with. Moses was mocked as a first rounder a lot before the draft so hopefully we got a steal here.


Someone explain to me why we just went and spent all this money in FA on Receiver and then we draft another one that is supposedly a clone of the guy we just gave $16 million to?

I'd also love to hear the logic behind the RB. I'm guessing either Chris Thompson, Evan Royster or Helu are gonna be hittin the road soon?