[XB1] Official Xbox One Thread

[Primetime]

DANCE CENTRAL, BRO!!!

In all seriousness tho, this is what turns me off the most. Even though they are completely botching everything with they complete lack of explanation on anything and everything, most of the stuff is doable for me, personally. But making me purchase this damn thing is full retard. I hate motion gaming, I do not care about telling my XB1, "Xbox on" and it just doesn't make sense to make your console require it.

Uniform XB1's for everyone makes a LOT of sense to require it.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

DANCE CENTRAL, BRO!!!

In all seriousness tho, this is what turns me off the most. Even though they are completely botching everything with they complete lack of explanation on anything and everything, most of the stuff is doable for me, personally. But making me purchase this damn thing is full retard. I hate motion gaming, I do not care about telling my XB1, "Xbox on" and it just doesn't make sense to make your console require it.

Have you tried it ?

Honestly, speaking to my console is just a massive leap in user experience. I get the lameness of motion gaming because the tracking is always atrocious. But as a interface its great and seemingly has taken even bigger steps. That being said forcing EVERY xbox user to have one is retarded. I "get" why. They dont want the XB0 experience to get badmouthed by all the folks opting for a cheaper console and missing out on the full experience. But nigga dats why youz a game console. The fact they dont give people the option is pretty solid proof that gaming is secondary to the media experience.
The old "developers wont support it any other way" excuse has expired. When Bill Gates said 15 years ago we eventually want to "control your living room" I dont think he meant "use us exclusively as your entertainment vessel" not "manipulate and observe every action you take" there.

 

[JBauerisGod]

That is fine...but explain why the new Kinect is worth it. Do a side by side comparison on why I should be interested in this peripheral. I really WANT to be excited about this thing but tell me why and I will decide.

From what I've seen, a lot of people are excited about the voice commands. It seems that they like the prospect of just plopping down on the couch and saying "Xbox On" and whatnot without having to find a controller. I believe they also like the potential the voice control has in games.

 

[Garrett67]

I don't even like talking to people, I certainly don't want to talk this thing. I want to sit down and keep my mouth shut, not yap and flail my arms around like a monkey that has to pee.

 

[Primetime]

I don't even like talking to people, I certainly don't want to talk this thing. I want to sit down and keep my mouth shut, not yap and flail my arms around like a monkey that has to pee.

So simply don't do it. If you're upset that you have to pay $100 extra for the system, largely because of the kinect being required, wait until we hear more about the game sharing. If it is half as good as what is being reported, you're saving a shit load of money right off the bat by not even having to buy a game with it. I'd likely save $240 on launch day, $180 if I buy one game. We'll wait and see.

 

[Argath]

Personally I can see the Xbox one getting royally fucked when it comes to the speech commands. Have they adjusted the system for different accents not just around the country but different languages around the world? Asian American accent? Southern? New Yorker? Canadian? Etc Etc

 

Although if this means Asians can't play Xbox this might sell me on getting the system

 

[Argath]

Double post

 

[Primetime]

Personally I can see the Xbox one getting royally fucked when it comes to the speech commands. Have they adjusted the system for different accents not just around the country but different languages around the world? Asian American accent? Southern? New Yorker? Canadian? Etc Etc

 

Although if this means Asians can't play Xbox this might sell me on getting the system

All we've heard is that this new design makes the Kinect 1 seem like a childrens toy. Everyone I read that has used it has come away very impressed.

 

[SethMode]

Personally I can see the Xbox one getting royally fucked when it comes to the speech commands. Have they adjusted the system for different accents not just around the country but different languages around the world? Asian American accent? Southern? New Yorker? Canadian? Etc Etc

 

Although if this means Asians can't play Xbox this might sell me on getting the system

Was this an issue the original Kinect had? I thought it parsed out languages/accents pretty well (I'm honestly just going based on what I think I remember, not sure).

 

[Primetime]

Was this an issue the original Kinect had? I thought it parsed out languages/accents pretty well (I'm honestly just going based on what I think I remember, not sure).

I've been told it recognizes sounds it shouldn't, like the game or tv, and reacts to those sounds poorly. I haven't used it more than a couple times without issue, but it's a 1st generation technology, so it's bound to have some issues.

 

[Garrett67]

So simply don't do it. If you're upset that you have to pay $100 extra for the system, largely because of the kinect being required, wait until we hear more about the game sharing. If it is half as good as what is being reported, you're saving a shit load of money right off the bat by not even having to buy a game with it. I'd likely save $240 on launch day, $180 if I buy one game. We'll wait and see.

The problem is, as of right now anyway is that I play in a dark room on a projector and my 360 is next to me, not in front of me near the screen. So, I don't know how well it works in the dark (assuming it doesn't very well) and I'm quite certain that it doesn't come with a 16' cable to put it in front of me. For audio only, that is fine but not for motion. So, I hope its not 'required'. I don't mind it coming with it but I shouldn't have to use it if I don't have a need for it.


And I'm not so sure about the whole game sharing thing. There has to be something MS isn't telling us because Microsoft doesn't allow users to share anything without forking over money. Also, from the eyes of a developer, that would really suck.
I can't see too many developers saying "Nah, go ahead, let everyone share the game"

It would be awesome but like I said before, there has to be a catch. Family probably means, same IP address or the person that owns the game has to sign in on another console and/or be present.
I'm sure you don't want to give your credentials to 10 other people.

I'm telling you, there is a catch.

 

[jms493]

The problem is, as of right now anyway is that I play in a dark room on a projector and my 360 is next to me, not in front of me near the screen. So, I don't know how well it works in the dark (assuming it doesn't very well) and I'm quite certain that it doesn't come with a 16' cable to put it in front of me. For audio only, that is fine but not for motion. So, I hope its not 'required'. I don't mind it coming with it but I shouldn't have to use it if I don't have a need for it.
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I saw a demo showing that it works in complete darkness and I read it is not required to be on. It only need to be plugged in. You can pause the kinect to not listen to your voice and as far as I know you can put a piece of tape in front of the camera.

 

[Garrett67]

The very last sentence is the key. There is a catch, I'm telling you but they're not telling us.

[h=1]Xbox One: You Can Share Games With Any 10 People[/h] Ryan King

[h=2]The 'family' you share your games with is family in name only, as Phil Spencer confirms it can be any 10 people.[/h] Published on Jun 17, 2013
Microsoft's Phil Spencer has clarified the 'sharing 10 games with family' idea on Xbox One via PA Report.
Microsoft has already announced the 'family sharing' feature of Xbox One that allows you to share your games with up to 10 members of that group, but it wasn't clear if they had to be in your family or not - and if they were, how would Microsoft check?
This gave rise to lots of talk about Kinect checking who you'd be sharing your games with and so forth but Spencer has clarified the policy.
“It’s not ten different people all playing the game concurrently, but when you think about a real usage scenario, and we thought about it around a family, and I know certain people will create a family group of people that aren’t all part of the same family, and I do think that’s an advantage, and people will use that," Spencer explained.
"I saw it on NeoGAF instantly, the Xbox Family creation threads, where people said 'Hey be a part of my family.' No birth certificates will need to be sent in! I do think that’s an advantage of the ecosystem that we have.”
The internet has done a better job of explaining this feature than Microsoft has thus far, and what's more, this seems to be the best aspect of Xbox One - particularly in light of all the negativity surrounding the console to date.
Why isn't Microsoft making a bigger deal out of this feature?

http://www.nowgamer.com/news/1967382/xbox_one_you_can_share_games_with_any_10_people.html

 

[Primetime]

The problem is, as of right now anyway is that I play in a dark room on a projector and my 360 is next to me, not in front of me near the screen. So, I don't know how well it works in the dark (assuming it doesn't very well) and I'm quite certain that it doesn't come with a 16' cable to put it in front of me. For audio only, that is fine but not for motion. So, I hope its not 'required'. I don't mind it coming with it but I shouldn't have to use it if I don't have a need for it.


And I'm not so sure about the whole game sharing thing. There has to be something MS isn't telling us because Microsoft doesn't allow users to share anything without forking over money. Also, from the eyes of a developer, that would really suck.
I can't see too many developers saying "Nah, go ahead, let everyone share the game"

It would be awesome but like I said before, there has to be a catch. Family probably means, same IP address or the person that owns the game has to sign in on another console and/or be present.
I'm sure you don't want to give your credentials to 10 other people.

I'm telling you, there is a catch.

What jms said, also the bolded part has been confirmed false.

 

[Twigg4075]

It is just as dumb as Sony putting a Blu Ray player in their device and charging 500-600 7 years ago but they turned out just fine.

Not even close to the same thing. Back then bluray was brand new technology and like anything new it was crazy expensive. Standalone players were going for $1000 or more and people were buying them. As hard as a pill to swallow as the $600 price was back then you were actually getting far more for your money than you were for the $400 360. I remember having arguments upon arguments about that over at MM and that was when almost everyone, including myself, was shitting on the ps3 and the only defenders were DJ and Anddo. For $600 you got top of the line bluray player, built in wireless, rechargeable controllers and free online. I ended up paying well over $700 to get all of that on my 360, minus the bluray of course.

So yeah, not even close to the same comparison.

 

[Twigg4075]

Was this an issue the original Kinect had? I thought it parsed out languages/accents pretty well (I'm honestly just going based on what I think I remember, not sure).

It can't even understand English. I can't imagine how bad other languages must be. It's so much fun trying to shout "audible" in 15 variations while playing Madden before it finally recognizes what you're saying. Keep in mind that game only needs to recognize like a handful of words.

 

[jms493]

Not even close to the same thing. Back then bluray was brand new technology and like anything new it was crazy expensive. Standalone players were going for $1000 or more and people were buying them. As hard as a pill to swallow as the $600 price was back then you were actually getting far more for your money than you were for the $400 360. I remember having arguments upon arguments about that over at MM and that was when almost everyone, including myself, was shitting on the ps3 and the only defenders were DJ and Anddo. For $600 you got top of the line bluray player, built in wireless, rechargeable controllers and free online. I ended up paying well over $700 to get all of that on my 360, minus the bluray of course.

So yeah, not even close to the same comparison.

disagree

 

[Twigg4075]

disagree

Cool story bro.

 

[jms493]

Cool story bro.

it was either that or I "GROAN" you. :dizzle:

 

[Twigg4075]

it was either that or I "GROAN" you. :dizzle:

Go ahead. You know I'm right.

The 360 appeared cheaper but was actually much more expensive, thanks to M$ cutting corners and then charging exorbitant prices for proprietary "accessories", most of which people needed. $100 for a wireless adapter was fucking laughable. $50 for a Play N Charge kit that wouldn't hold a charge after six months? Yes please! $50 for Live? OMG yes!

And then when they did try to compete with bluray they released a $200 add on HD DVD player that was absolute shit. I was one of the dummies that actually bought one too.