Scouting Developmental - aka the WWE NXT Thread

[Leftwich]

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Promo's for most of the NXT workers. Some of these are very, very good.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

AIDEN ENGLISH...THE DRAMA KING.

:dead:

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Simon Gotch looks fantastic. Like some shit out of 1940's carnival wrestling shows. Calling people brutes and putting up his dukes.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I do find it very funny that you have some of the best wrestlers in the world like Sami Zayn in wrestling and promo class.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Samuray Del Sol is playing...Samuray Del Sol...nothing different. Even right down to his pose down.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Sami Zayn v. Curt Hawkins II - Damn, they gave these guys like 15 minutes. Much like the crowd, I was in and out of this one.

THE DRAMA KING AIDEN ENGLISH! ...AND HE SINGS! ...and HE WINS...his first win in NXT I'm sure. Against QT Marshall, who, I believe was using his real name. Aiden English is fantastic.

Bo Dallas interview. His eyes really annoy me.

Tyler Breeze / Leo Kruger / The Ascension
v.
Corey Graves / Adrian Neville / Xavier Woods / CJ Parker

Jesus Christ, it took a whole segment to do everyone's intros AND this match got nearly 20 minutes. The star was Tyler Breeze who the crowd was loving. Everyone leaves Tyler Breeze hanging for the faces to beat up. The crowd chants "not the face" over and over again. Faces win.

Overall, nothing to really see here.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

This show has gone downhill overall since Naylor left. Coincidence? I don't know.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

This show has gone downhill overall since Naylor left. Coincidence? I don't know.

Something is missing overall from the show. I'm not sure what it is...perhaps its just bloat? A random 8-man tag is completely unnecessary. Also, there are a ton of new gimmicks that I just can't get into outside of slight comedic value.

It used to be a show that was done in its own bubble and you really didn't have to think...it had a bit of WCW Worldwide or Saturday Night vibe to it. Now, its like...someone is paying attention to it and WWE'ing it up.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Kalisto debut

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Let me ask ya'll this...

Can this NXT brand be a legitimate "Independent" alternative for guys to truly learn?

With the performance center, the WWE isn't going to want to get TNA talent and in time, I assume they'll want to take less Indy talent or take them early enough where they aren't Indy darlings where they are paying these guys to learn and training them to become wrestlers 24/7 while they also have house shows in a very Indy like venue with an Indy sized crowd with a monthly TV taping...not to dissimilar a set up to how ROH runs.

It seems like good in concept, but I question whether the talent gets the training they would in-house when working all over the world has been a time honored way of honing your craft. But I'm curious to see how ya'll think.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

They are learning only one style. WWE style. That's the one & only drawback. Everything else about the setup of the performance center is great. But what you are going to see, is a bunch of generic Cutis Axel's & Randy Orton's being developed in terms of work.

For example, I don't know who that geek is in the Samuray Sel Sol/Kalipso match I posted, but i'm sure he's a wrestler/college football player/model type because he doesnt move like a wrestler and looks drier than sand. Perfect for the WWE style which at it's core is a slow, deliberate style. And that will only be emphasized even more moving forward with the guy in charge being a Harley Race mark and he himself being one of the most deliberate workers of the modern era.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

And yes, to me the best way to learn and become well rounded & great is to work in as many places as possible. A recent example is the development of people like Davey Boy Smith Jr, or even a Lance Archer/Hoyt.

In Japan they still believe in this, as the top prospects always get sent abroad, whether you look at recent examples to USA (Okada to TNA, Watanabe to PWS), Canada (Sanada to Dupree's promotion), Mexico (Naito & others to CMLL, Eita/Tomahawk/U-T as well from DG), or even Europe in a rare case (Liger many years ago, for example).

Look at Dragon Gate. Certainly a unique style, but they still send all of their top prospects abroad. Shingo, YAMATO, Tozawa, the Millennials group I already mentioned, and the thing with DG is they send these guys all over the place, Shingo to ROH, YAMATO everywhere, Tozawa to the Anarchy system & other places, etc.

I think WWE should hire trainers with all sorts of backgrounds and teach these guys a little of everything. And send them on excursions.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

They are learning only one style. WWE style. That's the one & only drawback. Everything else about the setup of the performance center is great. But what you are going to see, is a bunch of generic Cutis Axel's & Randy Orton's being developed in terms of work.

For example, I don't know who that geek is in the Samuray Sel Sol/Kalipso match I posted, but i'm sure he's a wrestler/college football player/model type because he doesnt move like a wrestler and looks drier than sand. Perfect for the WWE style which at it's core is a slow, deliberate style. And that will only be emphasized even more moving forward with the guy in charge being a Harley Race mark and he himself being one of the most deliberate workers of the modern era.

I agree with this post.

They should let guys simmer in the Indies before they get to the Performance Center. They complain about having to work out the "habits" these guys develop in the Indies, but its a lot easier to work out the habits than it is to give a guy some juice when they don't know anything else. I mean, outside of Cena (former football player, bodybuilder, had less than a year on the Indy circuit before going to the WWE) do any of their developed talents have any kind of savvy in the ring?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

They should cut deals with a Japanese promotion & a lucha promotion and do excursion exchanges. The jap/lucha guys can spend a year in NXT, and the WWE guys can spend a solid year working japanese tours or doing the daily lucha circuit. The foreign groups would be more than willing to take part in something like that, since they all do it already with each other.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

They should cut deals with a Japanese promotion & a lucha promotion and do excursion exchanges. The jap/lucha guys can spend a year in NXT, and the WWE guys can spend a solid year working japanese tours or doing the daily lucha circuit. The foreign groups would be more than willing to take part in something like that, since they all do it already with each other.

But that would involve admitting there was other wrestling besides the WWE style that you mentioned. Even though it exists, I'm sure VKM makes it his mission to stamp it out as much as possible.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Speaking of having my doubts about the Performance Center being able to make someone out of nothing without having to work the old fashioned way...

The WWE released Vader's kid.

He's green as hell...needs, without question, work on the Indy and international scene. Going to Japan would do wonders for Jesse White.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

NXT 9/25

We open with a tag team turmoil match.

Enzo Amore + Big Cass v. Tyler Breeze + CJ Parker - Oh my, will the tag team of Parker and Breeze B ABLE 2 COEXIST!?! #SAWFT.

Enzo Amore + Big Cass v. Scott Dawson + Alexander Rusev - #SAWFT ... post match shenanigans where Rusev takes out Enzo and Big Cass.

Enzo Amore + Big Cass v. The Ascension - You know how this one ends.

Really pointless segment-and-a-half. The Ascension is your #1 Contender...you already know they are going to win the belts.

Bayley v. Sasha Banks - Fast Forward.

Aiden English demands the spotlight...and HE SIIIIIIINGS. He beats BULL DEMPSEY. There is some potential in former jobber Aiden English. And at the demand of the audience...HE GIVES US AN ENCORE.

Sami Zayn v. EL LOCAL - Zayn gets the biggest pop of anyone I've ever heard in NXT. I can't wait until the WWE crowds at RAW or a PPV start chanting "OLE"...will be awesome. This one is short and quick. Zayn wins with the Yakuza Kick to the corner.

Bo Dallas comes out. Don't stop Bo-lieving.

Kassius Ohno backstage promo...he's a D+ performer, don'tcha know.

Triple H promo. Sami Zayn out pops Triple H. Immediate burial coming. Dusty out as GM...JBL in. JBL heely promo.

They threw a whole lot of shit into 50 minutes. Watch at your own discretion. A lot of skippable shit here.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

 

[SuperKevin]

Aiden English needs to be on the main roster with that gimmick as soon as possible. It's gonna blow up like Damien Sandow did

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Supposedly, NXT can be viewed with Hulu Basic now. So, free.