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Shocker: Rams to trade #2 pick

If that's even the Redskins offer.





If the Redskins offer is as high as it is...I really highly doubt many of these rebuilding teams like Cleveland, Miami, etc pay that many picks to move up that far in relation to what the Redskins and their crazy ass owner do.

IMO Cleveland would be better served to stay put at 4, take Richardson, keep their 22nd pick as well and not waste draft picks moving up to get RGIII when if they suck again next year's QB class looks to be really solid anyways.

If the Redskins want to be stupid and overpay that's fine but I realyl don't think the stupidity will be contagious to other teams so to speak.

Look at what happened last year...

Tennessee took Locker much earlier than he was projected (the low cap hit the rookies receive now big for teams now)...

What happened was an avalanche of QBs drafted before the first few picks of Round 2 were over.

Teams know this...that is why the teams that want Griffin will have to trade up to get him...the Rams are basically saying "highest and best" and will take that highest and best offer...right now, its seemingly Washington, but as the draft gets closer...that offer might get upped when teams don't fill the QB need in free agency.

It would not shock me to see a team like the Dolphins take a QB @ their pick. Maybe a Tannehill or something (Mike Sherman is on the Dolphins staff now)...teams without QBs are desperate to get one. If they can't get Griffin @ 2, then you have Tannehill and Osweiler waiting to get picked up and for some reason, I don't think they'll have to wait...the NFL is weird like that.
 
Look at what happened last year...

Tennessee took Locker much earlier than he was projected (the low cap hit the rookies receive now big for teams now)...

What happened was an avalanche of QBs drafted before the first few picks of Round 2 were over.

Teams know this...that is why the teams that want Griffin will have to trade up to get him...the Rams are basically saying "highest and best" and will take that highest and best offer...right now, its seemingly Washington, but as the draft gets closer...that offer might get upped when teams don't fill the QB need in free agency.

It would not shock me to see a team like the Dolphins take a QB @ their pick. Maybe a Tannehill or something (Mike Sherman is on the Dolphins staff now)...teams without QBs are desperate to get one. If they can't get Griffin @ 2, then you have Tannehill and Osweiler waiting to get picked up and for some reason, I don't think they'll have to wait...the NFL is weird like that.

While I agree with what you are saying in a general sense I just can't see the Redskins being stupid focing other teams to make moves. Especially in Clevelands case when they have a lot of problems and can filla huge hole at RB with the #4 pick, keep the #22 pick up a really nice player at that slot and move on. McCoy IMO is solid enough to get another season out of and if they implode they are in the Barkley lottery wth solid pieces around him.
 
RG shouldnt go to the Redskins with present coach. It wont help him. The coach is more worried about being a controller then leading teams to wins.

...and I hear Cleveland in interested, so your theory that teams who already drafted young QBs and paid big bucks to them and shouldnt bother is bullshit
 
I think Reiff could jump into top 5... and I have an odd feeling that Claiborne will be out of it.

I'd bet the house against it. Top 3 are going to be Luck/Griffin/Kalil. Then the Browns take Claiborne/Richardson/Blackmon, because they have LT covered with Joe Thomas. Then the Bucs take Claiborne/Richardson/Blackmon, because they have LT covered with Penn. LT isn't a need in Tampa. RT is, but who spends a top 5 pick on a RT? Nobody. Reiff isn't a top 5 prospect anyway.

Yea, I googled Manningham to the Bucs after I read your previous post, I havent been up on our offseason plans. I totally expect to land some FA's land with uur GM, Mark Dominick, feeling the heat after cleaning house and seemingly scrapping the "build through the draft and disregard FA" approach. With you having to spend a certain amount and us having a bunch of money we really dont have a choice but to pick up some veterans. Hope we can land Brandon Carr.

We're gonna load out pockets with 2nd tier FAs this year. We don't give enough of a signing bonus to attract big time FAs. We lost out on Fat Albert because we offered him $100 mil with no signing bonus. We signed Black and Davin with guaranteed YEARS to start the contract, with no signing bonus. Regardless of Dom realizing the error of his ways, we still need to give out signing bonuses to get FAs here. That comes out of the Glazers' pocket, and they aren't mandated by the league to spend anything, like they are with cap space. So they can continue to be tightwad bastards, and we'll get all the 20th-50th best players on the market that we can handle.

Doubt it.

They will get a couple firsts and a third.

By so openly shopping the pick they are actually devaluing it.

"We don't want to draft here, please give us MOAR picks" doesn't seem like a great strategy to me.

If Blackmon runs like shit then the pick becomes even less valuable.

I couldn't disagree more. They don't stand to gain anything by letting teams think they could stay at #2. They won't take Griffin there, so who among Cleveland/Washington/Miami/Seattle, etc would care? By letting it be known that they are shopping the pick, it creates an illusion that Cleveland is bidding against Washington or Miami, even if they aren't. It doesn't make their leverage any LESS valuable, because the leverage isn't the pick. It's Griffin being a 100x better option than over-paying for Flynn and praying he's good outside of GB or drafting shit-ass Tannehill and acting like he has similar upside. There's MAYBE 3 good options at QB this off-season: Griffin, Flynn, and Manning. Luck being already spoken for. There's more than 3 teams that really need a QB. So it puts the pressure on to get Griffin.

And again, Floyd (as you of all people should know) has put up a very strong Combine. After him, Hill put up a huge Combine, Randle has become a hot name, Sanu is out there. It shouldn't be Blackmon or bust for them. They could get Floyd and a 2nd this year, and a 1st/3rd next year. The drop-off from Blackmon to Floyd isn't much, and they can still get a nice package just because a team doesn't want to lose Griffin to another team. Their leverage should in no way be tied to Blackmon's stock, and if he runs a bad time, he could fall further, and open them up to be more able to risk him dropping to the Skins pick or the Dolphins pick.

Griffin has solidified his worth to teams interested in a QB. That's all the Rams need at this point. They'll get a good haul, and have options. Nothing that they say at this point can lessen any of those things.
 
I can see the Skins being more willing than anyone else to five up two first rounders and two or three additional picks to get RG3.

I'm torn about it though. On the one hand, he could be their franchise QB for the next ten years which is not good. We've come to expect them being malcontent with their signal caller (the fact Grossman beat the Giants twice this year notwithstanding).

On the other hand, them sending away a significant group of picks to St. Louis would almost certainly guarantee them being relatively shit the next couple seasons....with Eli in his prime.

Make it happen I guess. Plus, St. Louis with all these picks should be able to compete right away with Seattle.

Fixed for accurateness in 2012. :smug:
 
Related to the thread.. I wouldn't be surprised to see the Rams unload this thing in the next couple of weeks.. when Matt Flynn and Peyton Manning hit the market, that's going to drive the price down - especially if Flynn wound up in Cleveland and Manning wound up in Miami.

The Rams need to take the buzz of Griffin's combine and cash in immediately.
 
screw this...

the Rams should draft RG3 and see who comes out on top in camp or let RG on the bench for a year ,theres no such thing as too many QBs,take the chance,make the bet,let it ride, see who earns the spot,who's really better..and then draft some linemen, let the skill positions take care of themselves if these QBs are worth a damn
You're seriously one of the worst posters I've ever come across in message board history.
 
You're seriously one of the worst posters I've ever come across in message board history.

Ram29jackson is the living embodiment of the phrase "a broken clock is right twice a day".

It seems like for every logical post he makes, he follows it up with 719 posts that are utter rubbish.
 
A six-year/$76M contract ($50M guaranteed)

or

A four-year/$5M contract ($1.07M guaranteed)

troll, troll, troll your boat...

You're seriously one of the worst posters I've ever come across in message board history.

no, youre just a fool who cant think for himself and goes with repeated typical junk thinking its the law for things to do in sports.

:huh:

Colt McCoy was a 3rd round pick and is making less than 1 million a year.



no trolling here boys. I'm well aware it may never happen..but when it comes to a position like QB and a chance at getting someone who may become really good at the position, you go for broke..sometimes you have to risk blowing it..theres teams that thought they had what they needed and passed on the Marino's and Jordans of the world because logic said not to bother....nope i'm the best poster because I think for myself, unlike you bandwagon jumpers who think they know anything about running a team...have a nice day
 
LOL this wouldnt be a Jeff F decision,..he's been nothing without McNair...that has nothing to do with anything, I just thought I'd say that LOL

Okay then.

Why would the general manager (who is a puppet of Fisher, I presume) going to eat $18 million right now?
 
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